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Magic (The Gathering) => Rules => Topic started by: Spikepit on March 19, 2015, 10:27:02 PM

Title: Need A Second Opinion
Post by: Spikepit on March 19, 2015, 10:27:02 PM
Hey all! No matter the amount of logic I employ, the confusion is real with them and they need another opinion.
So please, a 1/1 Deathtouch Firststrike attacks and is blocked by a 5/5. What happens (I'm purposefully trying no to lead an answer).
Could people in the know possible pop the rule number down also (just like I did).
Thanks in advance community.
Title: Re: Need A Second Opinion
Post by: Ekann1 on March 19, 2015, 10:40:53 PM
Do you need an explanation or a rule number from the comp rules itself?
Title: Re: Need A Second Opinion
Post by: Ekann1 on March 19, 2015, 10:41:23 PM
702.2b (http://imtgapp.com/forum/index.php?action=imtg;area=rule;number=702.2b): Any nonzero amount of combat damage assigned to a creature by a source with deathtouch is considered to be lethal damage, regardless of that creature's toughness. See rules 510.1c–d.
Title: Re: Need A Second Opinion
Post by: Ekann1 on March 19, 2015, 10:42:13 PM
510.5. (http://imtgapp.com/forum/index.php?action=imtg;area=rule;number=510.5.): If at least one attacking or blocking creature has first strike (see rule 702.7) or double strike (see rule 702.4) as the combat damage step begins, the only creatures that assign combat damage in that step are those with first strike or double strike. After that step, instead of proceeding to the end of combat step, the phase gets a second combat damage step. The only creatures that assign combat damage in that step are the remaining attackers and blockers that had neither first strike nor double strike as the first combat damage step began, as well as the remaining attackers and blockers that currently have double strike. After that step, the phase proceeds to the end of combat step.
Title: Re: Need A Second Opinion
Post by: Mr_Fahrenheit on March 19, 2015, 10:49:01 PM
So long story short, the deathtouch first strike dude kills the other bigger creature before it is able to get its shot in. They do not trade.
Title: Re: Need A Second Opinion
Post by: Remillo on March 19, 2015, 11:38:29 PM
Correct.
Title: Re: Need A Second Opinion
Post by: Spikepit on March 20, 2015, 01:37:39 AM
Thanks guys! They just wanted to hear that from someone who didn't control {Pestilent Kathari} at the time.