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Title: Pure draw power
Post by: 5/9 Turtle on March 14, 2015, 07:03:00 PM
Which of these has the strongest draw power
Bloodgift demon
Isperia (RTR)
Niv Mizzet (RTR)
Title: Re: Pure draw power
Post by: Kaalia with haste on March 14, 2015, 07:12:30 PM
Which format? All of these are unplayable in legacy and Bloodgift demon is marginally playable in modern but the others arent
Title: Re: Pure draw power
Post by: 5/9 Turtle on March 14, 2015, 07:14:34 PM
Quote from: Kaalia with haste on March 14, 2015, 07:12:30 PM
Which format? All of these are unplayable in legacy and Bloodgift demon is marginally playable in modern but the others arent

Yeah sorry, modern 5 color super friends
Title: Re: Pure draw power
Post by: Kaylesh on March 15, 2015, 06:00:30 AM
Quote from: 5/9 Turtle on March 14, 2015, 07:03:00 PM
Which of these has the strongest draw power
{Bloodgift demon}
{Isperia, supreme judge}
{Niv Mizzet, the firemind}
If I purely look at draw power, I'd say Niv has the most potential. Combine with untap effects for multiple cards. Demon only gives 1 card each upkeep, Isperia is dependent on opponent, unless you crack {bident of thassa}  at them. That combo would net you the most cards if you can deal with their attack.
Title: Re: Pure draw power
Post by: Skullguy725 on March 15, 2015, 08:02:26 AM
Quote from: Kaylesh on March 15, 2015, 06:00:30 AM
Quote from: 5/9 Turtle on March 14, 2015, 07:03:00 PM
Which of these has the strongest draw power
{Bloodgift demon}
{Isperia, supreme judge}
{Niv Mizzet, the firemind}
If I purely look at draw power, I'd say Niv has the most potential. Combine with untap effects for multiple cards. Demon only gives 1 card each upkeep, Isperia is dependent on opponent, unless you crack {bident of thassa}  at them. That combo would net you the most cards if you can deal with their attack.

Attach a {Curiosity} to Niv Mizzet for game.
Title: Re: Pure draw power
Post by: Kaylesh on March 15, 2015, 09:46:58 AM
Quote from: Skullguy725 on March 15, 2015, 08:02:26 AM
Quote from: Kaylesh on March 15, 2015, 06:00:30 AM
Quote from: 5/9 Turtle on March 14, 2015, 07:03:00 PM
Which of these has the strongest draw power
{Bloodgift demon}
{Isperia, supreme judge}
{Niv Mizzet, the firemind}
If I purely look at draw power, I'd say Niv has the most potential. Combine with untap effects for multiple cards. Demon only gives 1 card each upkeep, Isperia is dependent on opponent, unless you crack {bident of thassa}  at them. That combo would net you the most cards if you can deal with their attack.

Attach a {Curiosity} to Niv Mizzet for game.
Ok... That nets you cards equal to your opponents life. Nice
Title: Re: Pure draw power
Post by: Munchlax on March 15, 2015, 10:48:49 AM
All of these are pretty much unplayable on modern
Title: Re: Pure draw power
Post by: LinkCelestrial on March 15, 2015, 11:09:50 AM
Five colour Superfriends in modern? {Ajani, Mentor of Heroes} could help. Otherwise {Howling Mine}/{Dictate of Kruphix} if you just want to go faster. I can't think of anything else ATM.
Title: Re: Pure draw power
Post by: Skullguy725 on March 15, 2015, 11:20:37 AM
Quote from: GlowackAttack on March 15, 2015, 09:45:09 AM
^{Ophidian Eye} can also work if you decide to cross the realm into edh

Nice. Insta-Aura too
Title: Re: Pure draw power
Post by: Wingnut on March 15, 2015, 12:34:37 PM
 {Arcanis the Omnipotent} Has my vote.
Title: Re: Pure draw power
Post by: Skullguy725 on March 15, 2015, 12:37:47 PM
Wait, which Niv are we talking about here?

{Niv-Mizzet, the firemind}
{Niv-Mizzet, dracogenius}
Title: Re: Pure draw power
Post by: 5/9 Turtle on March 15, 2015, 12:51:09 PM
Well i narrowed it down to these creatures as i only have one spot left and that is a creature spot, and it has to be one of these creatures. which of the three has the best draw power
Title: Re: Pure draw power
Post by: Munchlax on March 15, 2015, 01:04:42 PM
Quote from: 5/9 Turtle on March 15, 2015, 12:51:09 PM
Well i narrowed it down to these creatures as i only have one spot left and that is a creature spot, and it has to be one of these creatures. which of the three has the best draw power
Or you could just not run that creature and run a PW that draws cards
Title: Re: Pure draw power
Post by: Skullguy725 on March 15, 2015, 03:20:50 PM
Quote from: Munchlax on March 15, 2015, 01:04:42 PM
Quote from: 5/9 Turtle on March 15, 2015, 12:51:09 PM
Well i narrowed it down to these creatures as i only have one spot left and that is a creature spot, and it has to be one of these creatures. which of the three has the best draw power
Or you could just not run that creature and run a PW that draws cards

Yeah, I kind of see the Demon and Isperia as commander-type  cards, and Niv is only good if your going to create a theme around him
Title: Re: Pure draw power
Post by: LinkCelestrial on March 15, 2015, 05:08:24 PM
I'd rather be using {Phyrexian Arena}.

If you're going to stick with a creature the previously mentioned {Arcanist, the Omnipotent} is best. He saves himself and {Jace's Ingenuity} each turn. Win win.