Cash or the specific foils I need only. From the below pic just the {savannah} and {tundra} are on the chopping block.
(http://i.imgur.com/3Zwxr7y.jpg)
{narset, enlightened master}
(http://i.imgur.com/x1R3v9J.jpg)
{zur, the enchanter}
(http://i.imgur.com/02EMwEE.jpg)
{plateau}
(http://i.imgur.com/CGO9ICN.jpg)
{force of will} (oddly enough, it didn't make it into my commander deck which runs blue. :P I want a really good offer for this one though)
(http://i.imgur.com/m3x0r5e.jpg)
{tundra}
(http://i.imgur.com/hlDEZLz.jpg)
Do you have an idea of how much you'd like to get for these? Also, have you had them checked by judges to get an idea whether they'd be tournament legal?
Are you looking for the foil full art cryptic command? I could be interested in those duals if you want those cryptic commands.......I have 3 of them.
How about.
My soul
For
Your Force of Will
Quote from: Falcon182 on March 13, 2015, 12:32:51 PM
Do you have an idea of how much you'd like to get for these? Also, have you had them checked by judges to get an idea whether they'd be tournament legal?
Just an fyi, when it comes to altered cards there is no guarantee that it will be accepted. Even if cards have been approved before, the head judge is always the last word. I am not saying these are illegal at all, just that one judges opinion doesn't really matter. Some judges have a 0 tolerance policy for alters and some don't really care. As long as the thickness of these cards is not thicker then a regular magic card you should be fine as the art is the same just extended and the name and cmc are all there.
Narset how much?
Quote from: Taysby on March 13, 2015, 01:57:18 PM
The head judge can always be a bitch and say no. But according to the comprehensive rule book because the text, and cmc are unaltered they are 100% legal
There is no such thing as 100% legal Taysby. It still can be viewed as trying to gain an advantage on your opponent by not using the original cards. Also the thickness is extremely important. Regardless if the card looks the exact same as a normal card, if while shuffling it can be cut to or found easily it is not legal.
Quote from: Taysby on March 13, 2015, 02:44:38 PM
Quote from: particle on March 13, 2015, 02:03:18 PM
Quote from: Taysby on March 13, 2015, 01:57:18 PM
The head judge can always be a bitch and say no. But according to the comprehensive rule book because the text, and cmc are unaltered they are 100% legal
There is no such thing as 100% legal Taysby. It still can be viewed as trying to gain an advantage on your opponent by not using the original cards. Also the thickness is extremely important. Regardless if the card looks the exact same as a normal card, if while shuffling it can be cut to or found easily it is not legal.
Artistic modifications are acceptable in sanctioned tournaments, provided that the modifications do not make the card art unrecognizable, contain substantial strategic advice, or contain offensive images. Artistic modifications also may not obstruct or change the mana cost or name of the card.
The Head Judge is the final authority on acceptable cards for a tournament.
That is their ruling. It is legal, but the head judge can be a bitch if they choose.
Yea but the "substantial strategic advice" part is the gray area. They can say it's thicker than the other card, or that having it have extended borders can confuse players. There is no black and white alter that any judge can say this will be legal for all time.
Quote from: particle on March 13, 2015, 03:02:10 PM
Quote from: Taysby on March 13, 2015, 02:44:38 PM
Quote from: particle on March 13, 2015, 02:03:18 PM
Quote from: Taysby on March 13, 2015, 01:57:18 PM
The head judge can always be a bitch and say no. But according to the comprehensive rule book because the text, and cmc are unaltered they are 100% legal
There is no such thing as 100% legal Taysby. It still can be viewed as trying to gain an advantage on your opponent by not using the original cards. Also the thickness is extremely important. Regardless if the card looks the exact same as a normal card, if while shuffling it can be cut to or found easily it is not legal.
Artistic modifications are acceptable in sanctioned tournaments, provided that the modifications do not make the card art unrecognizable, contain substantial strategic advice, or contain offensive images. Artistic modifications also may not obstruct or change the mana cost or name of the card.
The Head Judge is the final authority on acceptable cards for a tournament.
That is their ruling. It is legal, but the head judge can be a bitch if they choose.
Yea but the "substantial strategic advice" part is the gray area. They can say it's thicker than the other card, or that having it have extended borders can confuse players. There is no black and white alter that any judge can say this will be legal for all time.
If you're going to get confused by card art either ask to pick up the thing and read it or pack up and go home. Weak excuse. For Narset, as she'd probably be your commander and therefore never really shuffled (unless you're not playing French and there's tucking) nobody would really care.
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 13, 2015, 03:54:39 PM
Quote from: particle on March 13, 2015, 03:02:10 PM
Quote from: Taysby on March 13, 2015, 02:44:38 PM
Quote from: particle on March 13, 2015, 02:03:18 PM
Quote from: Taysby on March 13, 2015, 01:57:18 PM
The head judge can always be a bitch and say no. But according to the comprehensive rule book because the text, and cmc are unaltered they are 100% legal
There is no such thing as 100% legal Taysby. It still can be viewed as trying to gain an advantage on your opponent by not using the original cards. Also the thickness is extremely important. Regardless if the card looks the exact same as a normal card, if while shuffling it can be cut to or found easily it is not legal.
Artistic modifications are acceptable in sanctioned tournaments, provided that the modifications do not make the card art unrecognizable, contain substantial strategic advice, or contain offensive images. Artistic modifications also may not obstruct or change the mana cost or name of the card.
The Head Judge is the final authority on acceptable cards for a tournament.
That is their ruling. It is legal, but the head judge can be a bitch if they choose.
Yea but the "substantial strategic advice" part is the gray area. They can say it's thicker than the other card, or that having it have extended borders can confuse players. There is no black and white alter that any judge can say this will be legal for all time.
If you're going to get confused by card art either ask to pick up the thing and read it or pack up and go home. Weak excuse. For Narset, as she'd probably be your commander and therefore never really shuffled (unless you're not playing French and there's tucking) nobody would really care.
But it's not really a question of "can I understand the card if I take some time to read it?" It's more, is this card clear enough that players can't get taken advantage of. In a very complex boardstate I don't want to have to keep picking up a card to keep reminding myself it's not what it looks like. https://www.pinterest.com/pin/336433034638897859/
There's an example of a way over the top alter that is obviously not clear. But it's all gray area about what is clear enough and what could give an advantage.
Quote from: particle on March 13, 2015, 04:00:19 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 13, 2015, 03:54:39 PM
Quote from: particle on March 13, 2015, 03:02:10 PM
Quote from: Taysby on March 13, 2015, 02:44:38 PM
Quote from: particle on March 13, 2015, 02:03:18 PM
Quote from: Taysby on March 13, 2015, 01:57:18 PM
The head judge can always be a bitch and say no. But according to the comprehensive rule book because the text, and cmc are unaltered they are 100% legal
There is no such thing as 100% legal Taysby. It still can be viewed as trying to gain an advantage on your opponent by not using the original cards. Also the thickness is extremely important. Regardless if the card looks the exact same as a normal card, if while shuffling it can be cut to or found easily it is not legal.
Artistic modifications are acceptable in sanctioned tournaments, provided that the modifications do not make the card art unrecognizable, contain substantial strategic advice, or contain offensive images. Artistic modifications also may not obstruct or change the mana cost or name of the card.
The Head Judge is the final authority on acceptable cards for a tournament.
That is their ruling. It is legal, but the head judge can be a bitch if they choose.
Yea but the "substantial strategic advice" part is the gray area. They can say it's thicker than the other card, or that having it have extended borders can confuse players. There is no black and white alter that any judge can say this will be legal for all time.
If you're going to get confused by card art either ask to pick up the thing and read it or pack up and go home. Weak excuse. For Narset, as she'd probably be your commander and therefore never really shuffled (unless you're not playing French and there's tucking) nobody would really care.
But it's not really a question of "can I understand the card if I take some time to read it?" It's more, is this card clear enough that players can't get taken advantage of. In a very complex boardstate I don't want to have to keep picking up a card to keep reminding myself it's not what it looks like. https://www.pinterest.com/pin/336433034638897859/
There's an example of a way over the top alter that is obviously not clear. But it's all gray area about what is clear enough and what could give an advantage.
Except the being clear is not really the part as foreign cards are legal and most people can't read Japanese or Chinese, etc. so what the card is / does is not the argument really. It's whether you can find it easier because of the thickness that is the main argument for or against alters.
Quote from: NyghtHawk on March 13, 2015, 04:26:28 PM
Quote from: particle on March 13, 2015, 04:00:19 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 13, 2015, 03:54:39 PM
Quote from: particle on March 13, 2015, 03:02:10 PM
Quote from: Taysby on March 13, 2015, 02:44:38 PM
Quote from: particle on March 13, 2015, 02:03:18 PM
Quote from: Taysby on March 13, 2015, 01:57:18 PM
The head judge can always be a bitch and say no. But according to the comprehensive rule book because the text, and cmc are unaltered they are 100% legal
There is no such thing as 100% legal Taysby. It still can be viewed as trying to gain an advantage on your opponent by not using the original cards. Also the thickness is extremely important. Regardless if the card looks the exact same as a normal card, if while shuffling it can be cut to or found easily it is not legal.
Artistic modifications are acceptable in sanctioned tournaments, provided that the modifications do not make the card art unrecognizable, contain substantial strategic advice, or contain offensive images. Artistic modifications also may not obstruct or change the mana cost or name of the card.
The Head Judge is the final authority on acceptable cards for a tournament.
That is their ruling. It is legal, but the head judge can be a bitch if they choose.
Yea but the "substantial strategic advice" part is the gray area. They can say it's thicker than the other card, or that having it have extended borders can confuse players. There is no black and white alter that any judge can say this will be legal for all time.
If you're going to get confused by card art either ask to pick up the thing and read it or pack up and go home. Weak excuse. For Narset, as she'd probably be your commander and therefore never really shuffled (unless you're not playing French and there's tucking) nobody would really care.
But it's not really a question of "can I understand the card if I take some time to read it?" It's more, is this card clear enough that players can't get taken advantage of. In a very complex boardstate I don't want to have to keep picking up a card to keep reminding myself it's not what it looks like. https://www.pinterest.com/pin/336433034638897859/
There's an example of a way over the top alter that is obviously not clear. But it's all gray area about what is clear enough and what could give an advantage.
Except the being clear is not really the part as foreign cards are legal and most people can't read Japanese or Chinese, etc. so what the card is / does is not the argument really. It's whether you can find it easier because of the thickness that is the main argument for or against alters.
Being clear is important. While foreign cards cannot be read in English, they still look mostly like the version you are used to so you can still likely recognize what the card is and what it does. If I cast a Japanese version of {delver of secrets} the majority of the card still looks like {delver of secrets} and most players would recognize it. Most magic players recognize the art for {ancestral recall} and I've seen {ancestral visions} altered to have the art from recall. If I was playing against an inexperienced player, they might just see the art for recall and think that is the card your playing. I get that could be done with foreign language cards but it seems that is much less likely.
It's a bidding war!
$10!!!
12 fitty
I'll take them for oh say about three fitty.
Quote from: Cender on March 13, 2015, 09:57:05 PM
I'll take them for oh say about three fitty.
it was about this time I noticed this is no cender bidding on magic cards.......it was the gawd damn lochness monster!
Quote from: cltrn81 on March 13, 2015, 09:59:13 PM
Quote from: Cender on March 13, 2015, 09:57:05 PM
I'll take them for oh say about three fitty.
it was about this time I noticed this is no cender bidding on magic cards.......it was the gawd damn lochness monster!
Curses! Foiled again!
Free 99. Or two carrot bars. Final offer
https://www.dropbox.com/s/en42vpemcn7ju0z/2015-03-13%2022.51.21.png?dl=0
Quote from: GlowackAttack on March 14, 2015, 04:04:03 AM
Goddamn loch Ness monster always trying to get my tree fitty.
I'll raise it a buck-o-five, 5$ footlong is my bid
Don't trust this offer they are not really "footlong".
$10!!!
Quote from: GlowackAttack on March 14, 2015, 12:09:35 PM
you got me Rass... I'll throw in -one- bag of chips to cover the difference. But I will NOT buy a drink
Cheetos?if so I might have to alter some cards for trades.
$50 on savanah
25 for the plateau .. since it's damaged and all 😘