a friend of mine runs {goblin charbelcher} in his landless artifact deck. Does this actually work? Everytime he activates it, it runs through his entire deck and then he puts it all back together? Is there a problem with the "until you reveal a land" clause never being fulfilled?
From gatherer discussion:
And according to level 4 judge Rune Horvik (as can be seen at
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp ily/rh92):
If you don't have any lands in your library you reveal all the cards
left in the library, then the Charbelcher deals 1 damage for each
revealed card.
Even if one part of an effect fails, the other parts will try to do as
much as possible. Revealing the land is just a stop condition, it's not
a requirement to deal damage (it doesn't say "if you reveal a land..." ).
Apperently the end of your deck is a stop condition as well.
Damage = the number of cards in your library sounds good to me...
Quote from: Taysby on March 07, 2015, 02:58:35 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 07, 2015, 02:44:32 PM
Damage = the number of cards in your library sounds good to me...
Which is why i don't understand why the legacy charbelcher decks run 1 land. Just run 0 for crying out loud! You don't need it!
Just copy with Kurkesh. after you reveal the land put it back as last card :p that will likely do the trick.
Quote from: Kaylesh on March 07, 2015, 03:07:21 PM
Quote from: Taysby on March 07, 2015, 02:58:35 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 07, 2015, 02:44:32 PM
Damage = the number of cards in your library sounds good to me...
Which is why i don't understand why the legacy charbelcher decks run 1 land. Just run 0 for crying out loud! You don't need it!
Just copy with Kurkesh. after you reveal the land put it back as last card :p that will likely do the trick.
What charbelcher lists run kurkesh?
Not a clue. Maybe they should.
I am not competitive enough to check lists tbh. I try to invent my own.
This is what I had feared. Thanks everyone!
Quote from: Kaylesh on March 07, 2015, 03:18:01 PM
Not a clue. Maybe they should.
I am not competitive enough to check lists tbh. I try to invent my own.
I'm ultra competitive, and I refuse to check lists. I don't copy other people's decks. I build my own and win or lose, I played with my own creation.
Quote from: Dsx Cherno on March 07, 2015, 04:39:00 PM
Quote from: Kaylesh on March 07, 2015, 03:18:01 PM
Not a clue. Maybe they should.
I am not competitive enough to check lists tbh. I try to invent my own.
I'm ultra competitive, and I refuse to check lists. I don't copy other people's decks. I build my own and win or lose, I played with my own creation.
I spark my own ideas and always build my own list. I do look at other lists for {Inspiration} and of course I come up with ideas that are "mainstream" (I hunted down 4 {Gray Merchant of Asphodel} and built a deck out of it before I knew what top 8 was.)
Sometimes I like building decks more than playing.
The hulk deck? That was my creation. My child has won me five modern FNMs. I legaxy netdeck then build off of that because lawl why not but yeah it's graat