{Memnarch} is colorless, but his ability requires {U} mana. So as a commander, is Memnarch colorless or blue?
He is blue. Just like {Tasigur, the Golden Fang} is Sultai.
Think about it, if your commanders colour identity is colourless you can't produce blue mana so his ability is useless!
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 06, 2015, 04:19:56 PM
He is blue. Just like {Tasigur, the Golden Fang} is colourless.
Think about it, if your commanders colour identity is colourless you can't produce blue mana so his ability is useless!
Wait what? Tasigur colorless?
Quote from: Prplprince on March 06, 2015, 05:08:39 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 06, 2015, 04:19:56 PM
He is blue. Just like {Tasigur, the Golden Fang} is colourless.
Think about it, if your commanders colour identity is colourless you can't produce blue mana so his ability is useless!
Wait what? Tasigur colorless?
Yeah, he's black
Quote from: Balefire Hellkite on March 06, 2015, 05:43:56 PM
Quote from: Prplprince on March 06, 2015, 05:08:39 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 06, 2015, 04:19:56 PM
He is blue. Just like {Tasigur, the Golden Fang} is colourless.
Think about it, if your commanders colour identity is colourless you can't produce blue mana so his ability is useless!
Wait what? Tasigur colorless?
Yeah, he's black
He's Sultai! Don't ask why I said that...
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 06, 2015, 05:54:41 PM
Quote from: Balefire Hellkite on March 06, 2015, 05:43:56 PM
Quote from: Prplprince on March 06, 2015, 05:08:39 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 06, 2015, 04:19:56 PM
He is blue. Just like {Tasigur, the Golden Fang} is colourless.
Think about it, if your commanders colour identity is colourless you can't produce blue mana so his ability is useless!
Wait what? Tasigur colorless?
Yeah, he's black
He's Sultai! Don't ask why I said that...
Don't drink and magic
Quote from: Prplprince on March 06, 2015, 05:55:08 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 06, 2015, 05:54:41 PM
Quote from: Balefire Hellkite on March 06, 2015, 05:43:56 PM
Quote from: Prplprince on March 06, 2015, 05:08:39 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 06, 2015, 04:19:56 PM
He is blue. Just like {Tasigur, the Golden Fang} is colourless.
Think about it, if your commanders colour identity is colourless you can't produce blue mana so his ability is useless!
Wait what? Tasigur colorless?
Yeah, he's black
He's Sultai! Don't ask why I said that...
Don't drink and magic
But I'm perfectly sober and not high. I'll blame it on lack of sleep.
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 06, 2015, 04:19:56 PM
Think about it, if your commanders colour identity is colourless you can't produce blue mana so his ability is useless!
Also you couldn't use basic land, in colorless EDH
Quote from: Pi on March 07, 2015, 11:45:42 AM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 06, 2015, 04:19:56 PM
Think about it, if your commanders colour identity is colourless you can't produce blue mana so his ability is useless!
Also you couldn't use basic land, in colorless EDH
Wait, you can have any basic land in the deck, it just produces colorless, right? Is that what you were saying?
Quote from: Oldschoolmtgnoob on March 07, 2015, 12:09:17 PM
Quote from: Pi on March 07, 2015, 11:45:42 AM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 06, 2015, 04:19:56 PM
Think about it, if your commanders colour identity is colourless you can't produce blue mana so his ability is useless!
Also you couldn't use basic land, in colorless EDH
Wait, you can have any basic land in the deck, it just produces colorless, right? Is that what you were saying?
In colourless decks like {Karn, Silver Golem} and {Kozilek, Butcher of Truth}, you can't have any basic lands in your deck since they have mana symbols that your commander doesn't.
Quote from: Oldschoolmtgnoob on March 07, 2015, 12:09:17 PM
Quote from: Pi on March 07, 2015, 11:45:42 AM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 06, 2015, 04:19:56 PM
Think about it, if your commanders colour identity is colourless you can't produce blue mana so his ability is useless!
Also you couldn't use basic land, in colorless EDH
Wait, you can have any basic land in the deck, it just produces colorless, right? Is that what you were saying?
In a colorless edh deck, you cannot run basic lands. Even though they are colorless per game rules, their color identity is whatever color they produce
Looked at some rulings, I was wrong. Nothing to see here folks, keep moving.
Quote from: rarehuntertay on March 07, 2015, 12:18:55 PM
Quote from: Oldschoolmtgnoob on March 07, 2015, 12:09:17 PM
Quote from: Pi on March 07, 2015, 11:45:42 AM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 06, 2015, 04:19:56 PM
Think about it, if your commanders colour identity is colourless you can't produce blue mana so his ability is useless!
Also you couldn't use basic land, in colorless EDH
Wait, you can have any basic land in the deck, it just produces colorless, right? Is that what you were saying?
In a colorless edh deck, you cannot run basic lands. Even though they are colorless per game rules, their color identity is whatever color they produce
903.5d A card with a basic land type may be included in a Commander deck only if each color of mana it could produce is included in the commander's color identity.
I found this while trying to explain to a monored player, who wanted to use {Gem of Becoming} and run a single swamp and islisland for mana acceleration.
Quote from: Pi on March 07, 2015, 01:08:30 PM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on March 07, 2015, 12:18:55 PM
Quote from: Oldschoolmtgnoob on March 07, 2015, 12:09:17 PM
Quote from: Pi on March 07, 2015, 11:45:42 AM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 06, 2015, 04:19:56 PM
Think about it, if your commanders colour identity is colourless you can't produce blue mana so his ability is useless!
Also you couldn't use basic land, in colorless EDH
Wait, you can have any basic land in the deck, it just produces colorless, right? Is that what you were saying?
In a colorless edh deck, you cannot run basic lands. Even though they are colorless per game rules, their color identity is whatever color they produce
903.5d A card with a basic land type may be included in a Commander deck only if each color of mana it could produce is included in the commander's color identity.
I found this while trying to explain to a monored player, who wanted to use {Gem of Becoming} and run a single swamp and islisland for mana acceleration.
I read in a different EDH topic that there is a leniency rule for colorless commanders, else you would need a LOT of different generic mana lands. I'll see if I can find it.
Lands are colorless so if you could put in different lands of colors your commander isn't you could technically run all 10 orig duel lands and 10 shock lands etc etc.
Quote from: Prplprince on March 07, 2015, 01:41:02 PM
Lands are colorless so if you could put in different lands of colors your commander isn't you could technically run all 10 orig duel lands and 10 shock lands etc etc.
Color identity isn't derived simply from card color, it also take into account any colored mana symbols on the cards themselves. Basic lands, let's say a {Mountain} for example, literally have the text "{T}: Add {R} to your mana pool.", regardless of whether or not you see it on the card.
I personally think the colour identity rule is super redundant with the mana production restriction. Just keep the mana production restriction and let red decks run {Ancient Grudge} if they want to and any {B}/{X} or {U}{X} deck run cards like {Nightveil Spectre}.
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 07, 2015, 02:43:30 PM
I personally think the colour identity rule is super redundant with the mana production restriction. Just keep the mana production restriction and let red decks run {Ancient Grudge} if they want to and any {B}/{X} or {U}{X} deck run cards like {Nightveil Spectre}.
That's blasphemy. Keep it up