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Title: Selesnya Aggro
Post by: Codester1991 on March 04, 2015, 11:38:32 AM

Selesnya Aggro

75 cards, 15 sideboard


3 {Gavony Township}
3 {Sunpetal Grove}
4 {Forest}
4 {Temple Garden}
4 {Windswept Heath}
4 {Plains}

22 lands


2 {Qasali Pridemage}
4 {Fleecemane Lion}
4 {Loxodon Smiter}
4 {Kitchen Finks}
4 {Wilt-Leaf Liege}
4 {Voice of Resurgence}
4 {Noble Hierarch}
4 {Birds of Paradise}

30 creatures


4 {Path to Exile}
4 {Gods Willing}

8 other spells


Sideboard

2 {Vexing Shusher}
1 {Naturalize}
2 {Mutagenic Growth}
2 {Stony Silence}
2 {Leyline of Sanctity}
2 {Fracturing Gust}
4 {Gaddock Teeg}

15 sideboard cards



Notes:
Wanna throw this together for my modern FNM just need to buy the birds, is it worth running? Does anyone see this as a competitive deck?
Title: Re: Selesnya Aggro
Post by: LinkCelestrial on March 04, 2015, 12:35:24 PM
Looks like you have a pretty good 8-Rack matchup. Otherwise your sideboard needs some staples like {Stoney Silence}, {Leyline of Sanctity}, perhaps some {Fracturing Gust} and for sure {Naturalize}/{Disenchant} for all the {Blood Moon} running around.

I'd recommend 2 or so more land. Monstrosity on {Fleecemane Lion} is very relevant as pretty much nobody main boards or even sideboards answers to hexproof + indestructible. You also want to be able to drop multiple threats a turn in the later game to put yourself ahead of controlly matchups.
Title: Re: Selesnya Aggro
Post by: Codester1991 on March 04, 2015, 02:25:42 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 04, 2015, 12:35:24 PM
Looks like you have a pretty good 8-Rack matchup. Otherwise your sideboard needs some staples like {Stoney Silence}, {Leyline of Sanctity}, perhaps some {Fracturing Gust} and for sure {Naturalize}/{Disenchant} for all the {Blood Moon} running around.

I'd recommend 2 or so more land. Monstrosity on {Fleecemane Lion} is very relevant as pretty much nobody main boards or even sideboards answers to hexproof + indestructible. You also want to be able to drop multiple threats a turn in the later game to put yourself ahead of controlly matchups.

What should I drop for the land? I kinda of figured birds would make up for the lack of. What kind of lands should I add? And yah I need to work on sideboard for sure, just haven't got there yet lol
Title: Re: Selesnya Aggro
Post by: blackychan1 on March 04, 2015, 02:30:27 PM
Quote from: Codester1991 on March 04, 2015, 02:25:42 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 04, 2015, 12:35:24 PM
Looks like you have a pretty good 8-Rack matchup. Otherwise your sideboard needs some staples like {Stoney Silence}, {Leyline of Sanctity}, perhaps some {Fracturing Gust} and for sure {Naturalize}/{Disenchant} for all the {Blood Moon} running around.

I'd recommend 2 or so more land. Monstrosity on {Fleecemane Lion} is very relevant as pretty much nobody main boards or even sideboards answers to hexproof + indestructible. You also want to be able to drop multiple threats a turn in the later game to put yourself ahead of controlly matchups.

What should I drop for the land? I kinda of figured birds would make up for the lack of. What kind of lands should I add? And yah I need to work on sideboard for sure, just haven't got there yet lol
{windswept Heath}
Title: Re: Selesnya Aggro
Post by: Codester1991 on March 04, 2015, 02:36:51 PM
^^^ Already have em
Title: Re: Selesnya Aggro
Post by: LinkCelestrial on March 04, 2015, 03:11:50 PM
I'm leaning towards {Letline of Lifeforce}, it's a SB card, and a {Mutagenic Growth}.
Title: Re: Selesnya Aggro
Post by: Codester1991 on March 04, 2015, 03:37:09 PM
I'm gonna run it 1 and if I'm playing against burn, swipe it out for leyline of sanctity and go that route but it's all about play testing and seeing what works best
Title: Re: Selesnya Aggro
Post by: Hunteroffire9 on March 04, 2015, 07:45:13 PM
Quote from: Codester1991 on March 04, 2015, 03:37:09 PM
I'm gonna run it 1 and if I'm playing against burn, swipe it out for leyline of sanctity and go that route but it's all about play testing and seeing what works best
The knight of reliquaries should be main boarded. With no hate to combo decks you need strong cards that force answers for other match ups
Title: Re: Selesnya Aggro
Post by: Codester1991 on March 04, 2015, 09:50:42 PM
Quote from: Hunteroffire9 on March 04, 2015, 07:45:13 PM
Quote from: Codester1991 on March 04, 2015, 03:37:09 PM
I'm gonna run it 1 and if I'm playing against burn, swipe it out for leyline of sanctity and go that route but it's all about play testing and seeing what works best
The knight of reliquaries should be main boarded. With no hate to combo decks you need strong cards that force answers for other match ups

So sideboard the mutagenics and run Knights?
Title: Re: Selesnya Aggro
Post by: Ekann1 on March 05, 2015, 08:57:11 PM
Why not just cut the birds and run lands instead? Lands don't die to board wipes.
Title: Re: Selesnya Aggro
Post by: LinkCelestrial on March 05, 2015, 08:59:56 PM
Quote from: E.kann1 on March 05, 2015, 08:57:11 PM
Why not just cut the birds and run lands instead? Lands don't die to board wipes.

You can't play two land on the same turn. You can play a land and a bird. Then you're ahead of the game!
Title: Re: Selesnya Aggro
Post by: Ekann1 on March 05, 2015, 10:17:11 PM
True, does this deck really need ramp though? I just think it's safer to curve out aggressively and not worry about dead mana sources.
Title: Re: Selesnya Aggro
Post by: LinkCelestrial on March 06, 2015, 12:15:42 AM
Quote from: E.kann1 on March 05, 2015, 10:17:11 PM
True, does this deck really need ramp though? I just think it's safer to curve out aggressively and not worry about dead mana sources.

He may have a point.
Title: Re: Selesnya Aggro
Post by: Codester1991 on March 06, 2015, 12:25:26 AM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 06, 2015, 12:15:42 AM
Quote from: E.kann1 on March 05, 2015, 10:17:11 PM
True, does this deck really need ramp though? I just think it's safer to curve out aggressively and not worry about dead mana sources.

He may have a point.

No it probably doesn't but I mean making an indestructible/hexproof fleecemane t4 is always great and as was mentioned already no one really plays removal for indestructible, also any 3-4 drop a turn prior to playing it is always great. That's my reasoning... But at the same time if theyre going to waste their kill spells on a 0/1 flyer I'm not worried because it's one less removal I need to worry about. Also most people play path to exiles as removal so my bird of paradise turns into an evolving wilds and I don't have a problem with that
Title: Re: Selesnya Aggro
Post by: Codester1991 on March 06, 2015, 12:32:11 AM
Also, considering running {Ajani's Presence} in place of {Gods Willing} to save at least 3-4 creatures late game from board wipes
Title: Re: Selesnya Aggro
Post by: LinkCelestrial on March 06, 2015, 11:01:55 AM
Quote from: Codester1991 on March 06, 2015, 12:32:11 AM
Also, considering running {Ajani's Presence} in place of {Gods Willing} to save at least 3-4 creatures late game from board wipes

This is really meta dependent. If you're seeing lots of {Path to Exile}, {Oblivion Ring}, ect then {Ajani's Presence} isn't as good.

On that note {Faith's Shield} may be better than {Gods Willing}.
Title: Re: Selesnya Aggro
Post by: Codester1991 on March 06, 2015, 11:08:39 AM
I do like that a lot better, can be a late game "game changer"
Title: Re: Selesnya Aggro
Post by: LinkCelestrial on March 06, 2015, 11:21:56 AM
It's also "target permanent" which can be extremely relevant. You do lose a scry but I think it's worth it.
Title: Re: Selesnya Aggro
Post by: Codester1991 on March 06, 2015, 12:29:54 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 06, 2015, 11:21:56 AM
It's also "target permanent" which can be extremely relevant. You do lose a scry but I think it's worth it.

Could save a land or a leyline which is great
Title: Re: Selesnya Aggro
Post by: LinkCelestrial on March 06, 2015, 02:14:25 PM
Quote from: Codester1991 on March 06, 2015, 12:29:54 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 06, 2015, 11:21:56 AM
It's also "target permanent" which can be extremely relevant. You do lose a scry but I think it's worth it.

Could save a land or a leyline which is great

It won't stop {Ghost Quarter} or {Tectonic Edge} as they're colourless, but yes.
Title: Re: Selesnya Aggro
Post by: Ekann1 on March 06, 2015, 09:35:03 PM
Quote from: Codester1991 on March 06, 2015, 12:25:26 AM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 06, 2015, 12:15:42 AM
Quote from: E.kann1 on March 05, 2015, 10:17:11 PM
True, does this deck really need ramp though? I just think it's safer to curve out aggressively and not worry about dead mana sources.

He may have a point.

No it probably doesn't but I mean making an indestructible/hexproof fleecemane t4 is always great and as was mentioned already no one really plays removal for indestructible, also any 3-4 drop a turn prior to playing it is always great. That's my reasoning... But at the same time if theyre going to waste their kill spells on a 0/1 flyer I'm not worried because it's one less removal I need to worry about. Also most people play path to exiles as removal so my bird of paradise turns into an evolving wilds and I don't have a problem with that
I'm thinking more about board wraths than individual removal spells.
Title: Re: Selesnya Aggro
Post by: Codester1991 on March 09, 2015, 11:03:37 AM
Picked up a playset of {Noble Hierarch}s so added those beautiful ladies into the mix
Title: Re: Selesnya Aggro
Post by: Codester1991 on March 09, 2015, 06:52:05 PM
May sideboard 2 {vexing shusher} for a sideboard option against control. I'd take out the qasali pride mages
Title: Re: Selesnya Aggro
Post by: Mattao19 on March 10, 2015, 01:26:11 AM
Honestly just splash B for T seize/Inquisition and {Lingering Souls} it'll be much better just look at Jacob Wilson's Top 8 decklist from PT FRF
Title: Re: Selesnya Aggro
Post by: Codester1991 on March 10, 2015, 12:09:26 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on March 10, 2015, 01:26:11 AM
Honestly just splash B for T seize/Inquisition and {Lingering Souls} it'll be much better just look at Jacob Wilson's Top 8 decklist from PT FRF

Well I don't want to just yet because I don't have the enemy fetches and don't want to go spend a few hundred on them just yet. I wanna wait and see if they come out any time soon in future sets and then I'll splash black in. I thought about going the cheap route and just using {caves of koilos} and {llanowar wastes} instead but it doesn't seem very efficient
Title: Re: Selesnya Aggro
Post by: Mattao19 on March 10, 2015, 11:35:37 PM
Ya agreed but here's the list incase you change your mind:

http://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=9064&d=251636&f=MO

Runs 4 Verdant 1 Godless Shrine and 1 Overgrown tomb
Title: Re: Selesnya Aggro
Post by: Codester1991 on March 11, 2015, 02:10:27 AM
Quote from: Mattao19 on March 10, 2015, 11:35:37 PM
Ya agreed but here's the list incase you change your mind:

http://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=9064&d=251636&f=MO

Runs 4 Verdant 1 Godless Shrine and 1 Overgrown tomb

Yah and those {Gavony Townships} which I plan on adding ASAP :)
Title: Re: Selesnya Aggro
Post by: Mattao19 on March 11, 2015, 02:27:54 AM
Gavony is sooo good!!
Title: Re: Selesnya Aggro
Post by: Codester1991 on March 11, 2015, 11:10:46 AM
Quote from: Mattao19 on March 11, 2015, 02:27:54 AM
Gavony is sooo good!!

Yes, yes it is!
Title: Re: Selesnya Aggro
Post by: Munchlax on March 11, 2015, 12:10:34 PM
{rootborn defenses} to save from wipes
Title: Re: Selesnya Aggro
Post by: LinkCelestrial on March 11, 2015, 12:29:51 PM
Quote from: Munchlax on March 11, 2015, 12:10:34 PM
{rootborn defenses} to save from wipes

{Ajani's Presence} just so you're aware of alternate options.
Title: Re: Selesnya Aggro
Post by: Mattao19 on March 11, 2015, 12:32:38 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 11, 2015, 12:29:51 PM
Quote from: Munchlax on March 11, 2015, 12:10:34 PM
{rootborn defenses} to save from wipes

{Ajani's Presence} just so you're aware of alternate options.

Or neither ... Modern doesn't play board wipes ...
Title: Re: Selesnya Aggro
Post by: Munchlax on March 11, 2015, 12:51:29 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on March 11, 2015, 12:32:38 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 11, 2015, 12:29:51 PM
Quote from: Munchlax on March 11, 2015, 12:10:34 PM
{rootborn defenses} to save from wipes

{Ajani's Presence} just so you're aware of alternate options.

Or neither ... Modern doesn't play board wipes ...
Tron {Oblivion Stone}
UWR control {Supreme Verdict} {Wrath of God}
There's also loads of targeted removal and it stops that too
Title: Re: Selesnya Aggro
Post by: Codester1991 on March 11, 2015, 01:05:54 PM
Quote from: Munchlax on March 11, 2015, 12:10:34 PM
{rootborn defenses} to save from wipes

I'd just sideboard in gaddock teeg since most board wipes are 4 drops or more :)
Title: Re: Selesnya Aggro
Post by: Codester1991 on March 11, 2015, 01:07:17 PM
Quote from: Munchlax on March 11, 2015, 12:51:29 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on March 11, 2015, 12:32:38 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 11, 2015, 12:29:51 PM
Quote from: Munchlax on March 11, 2015, 12:10:34 PM
{rootborn defenses} to save from wipes

{Ajani's Presence} just so you're aware of alternate options.

Or neither ... Modern doesn't play board wipes ...
Tron {Oblivion Stone}
UWR control {Supreme Verdict} {Wrath of God}
There's also loads of targeted removal and it stops that too

A buddy of mine actually runs damnations in his grixis control deck. I know this because I traded him 2 for his foil Karn liberated lol

He also runs a geist of saint traft control deck that he runs supremes as well. He either gets 1st or 2nd every week and that's because 4 of the players at our meta run tier 1 decks

This is my meta
T1-Boros burn or T1 splintertwin(he surprises us)
T1 Affinity or Blue White tron(me)
T1.5 Infect
T1 B/W tokens
T2 Zoo
T1 amulet or bloom Titan whatever it's called
Then there's the Control home brew dude that wins
And a lot of other decent home brews
Title: Re: Selesnya Aggro
Post by: LinkCelestrial on March 11, 2015, 01:58:14 PM
There's also my Bant Superfriends with (I think) 4 {Supreme Verdict} in the main board, plenty of control variants. (In higher tier Jeskai control) and a few decks that board in cards like {Whipflare}, {Pyroclasm} and {Anger of the Gods}. 
Title: Re: Selesnya Aggro
Post by: Codester1991 on March 11, 2015, 03:05:33 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 11, 2015, 01:58:14 PM
There's also my Bant Superfriends with (I think) 4 {Supreme Verdict} in the main board, plenty of control variants. (In higher tier Jeskai control) and a few decks that board in cards like {Whipflare}, {Pyroclasm} and {Anger of the Gods}.

Yep, also kitchen finks are great when board wipes are played so that's a way to keep myself alive without protection
Title: Re: Selesnya Aggro
Post by: Mattao19 on March 11, 2015, 03:16:42 PM
UWR isn't played right now
Grixis control is even less played
Tron does have o stone but you don't want a dead card in your hand.

Point being is that very few decks run wipes that it's never relevant.

Twin has none
Abzan has none
Bloom has none
Scapeshift has Anger I guess
And Fabianos Sultai list ran damnation but still not enough to justify any anti wrath spells
Title: Re: Selesnya Aggro
Post by: Codester1991 on March 11, 2015, 03:31:09 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on March 11, 2015, 03:16:42 PM
UWR isn't played right now
Grixis control is even less played
Tron does have o stone but you don't want a dead card in your hand.

Point being is that very few decks run wipes that it's never relevant.

Twin has none
Abzan has none
Bloom has none
Scapeshift has Anger I guess
And Fabianos Sultai list ran damnation but still not enough to justify any anti wrath spells

Well, as I said my meta has board wipes which I'm somewhat prepared for. If I plan on going to a grand prix I'll run my affinity anyways lol