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Title: LSV not knowing rules...
Post by: particle on February 15, 2015, 04:10:28 PM
so im watching this channelfireball video with lsv drafting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLcca0058_IzLcca0058_I
And it seems like he doesn't understand the interaction between {flamerush rider} and {goblin heelcutter}. He seems to think that making a copy of a heelcutter will make two creatures not be able to block. But straight from flamerush's rulings is:

11/24/2014   Although the token is attacking, it was never declared as an attacking creature (for purposes of abilities that trigger whenever a creature attacks, for example).

Sadly his opponent kills his rider before he gets to do it, but I am still very surprised by this.
Title: Re: LSV not knowing rules...
Post by: MuggyWuggy on February 15, 2015, 04:13:19 PM
And this is why pros are over rated. That fool should learn to dress himself before he takes another picture in public.
Title: Re: LSV not knowing rules...
Post by: Cender on February 15, 2015, 05:36:52 PM
Quote from: particle on February 15, 2015, 04:10:28 PM
so im watching this channelfireball video with lsv drafting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLcca0058_IzLcca0058_I
And it seems like he doesn't understand the interaction between {flamerush rider} and {goblin heelcutter}. He seems to think that making a copy of a heelcutter will make two creatures not be able to block. But straight from flamerush's rulings is:

11/24/2014   Although the token is attacking, it was never declared as an attacking creature (for purposes of abilities that trigger whenever a creature attacks, for example).

Sadly his opponent kills his rider before he gets to do it, but I am still very surprised by this.

One thing to keep in mind is how far in the future they record those draft videos. Interactions with a rare that doesn't see standard play is one of those things you learn as you use it or see it used for the first time.
Title: Re: LSV not knowing rules...
Post by: MuggyWuggy on February 15, 2015, 05:46:12 PM
Reading is a very valuable skill in magic
Title: Re: LSV not knowing rules...
Post by: Cender on February 15, 2015, 05:49:07 PM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on February 15, 2015, 05:46:12 PM
Reading is a very valuable skill in magic
Can't argue with that though lol
Title: Re: LSV not knowing rules...
Post by: gtfotis on February 15, 2015, 06:04:03 PM
The phrase "tapped and attacking" is used with other cards, so..

I also don't know who that is.. So..
Title: Re: LSV not knowing rules...
Post by: MuggyWuggy on February 15, 2015, 06:07:56 PM
Some nerd
Title: Re: LSV not knowing rules...
Post by: cltrn81 on February 15, 2015, 06:28:10 PM
Everyone is entitled to a brainfart give LSV a pass on this one.  He is typically on top of his game and I am surprised he made that mistake.
Title: Re: LSV not knowing rules...
Post by: rarehuntertay on February 15, 2015, 06:33:02 PM
Quote from: gtfotis on February 15, 2015, 06:04:03 PM
The phrase "tapped and attacking" is used with other cards, so..

I also don't know who that is.. So..
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Title: Re: LSV not knowing rules...
Post by: Dsx Cherno on February 15, 2015, 06:35:03 PM
Quote from: cltrn81 on February 15, 2015, 06:28:10 PM
Everyone is entitled to a brainfart give LSV a pass on this one.  He is typically on top of his game and I am surprised he made that mistake.


I agree. We all have moments when we completely drop the ball. I have a Saproling deck, and one time I forgot to add any of my spore counters on my creatures for several turns (I even had 3 doubling seasons on the field). Everyone makes mistakes, even pros.
Title: Re: LSV not knowing rules...
Post by: particle on February 15, 2015, 08:36:58 PM
But the point gtfotis makes is what I'm getting at. If this was a brand new mechanic, sure I could see where he would screw it up. But since it's not a new mechanic, I am shocked, LSV never came across this interaction with cards like {preeminent captain}, {hero of bladehold} or any ninjitsu cards. And sure he's entitled to a brain fart but this didn't seem like misremembering.
Title: Re: LSV not knowing rules...
Post by: gtfotis on February 16, 2015, 07:48:24 PM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on February 15, 2015, 06:33:02 PM
Quote from: gtfotis on February 15, 2015, 06:04:03 PM
The phrase "tapped and attacking" is used with other cards, so..

I also don't know who that is.. So..
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Hall of fame.. 😂