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Title: Bogles
Post by: MuggyWuggy on February 12, 2015, 07:00:56 PM

Bogles

75 cards, 15 sideboard


4 {Windswept Heath}
2 {Wooded Foothills}
4 {Temple Garden}
3 {Forest}
3 {Razorverge Thicket}
2 {Plains}

18 lands


1 {Dryad Arbor}
4 {Gladecover Scout}
4 {Slippery Bogle}
4 {Kor Spiritdancer}

13 creatures


1 {Canopy Cover}
2 {Spider Umbra}
3 {Angelic Gift}
2 {Keen Sense}
2 {Unflinching Courage}
2 {Spirit Link}
4 {Rancor}
3 {Spirit Mantle}
4 {Ethereal Armor}
2 {Hyena Umbra}
4 {Daybreak Coronet}

29 other spells


Sideboard

1 {Celestial Flare}
2 {Gaddock Teeg}
2 {Faith's Shield}
1 {Rest in Peace}
3 {Path to Exile}
2 {Nature's Claim}
2 {Leyline of Sanctity}
2 {Stony Silence}

15 sideboard cards



Notes:
Current bogles list will add more coronets when I get $$$ :(
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on February 12, 2015, 07:12:01 PM
{Alpha Authority} is a cool innovation for protecting Spiritdancer who is a kill-on-sight, kudos. I might also consider a 1 of {Forest}, I think {Blood Moon} will be more popular as it takes down Bloom Titan pretty hard, and your deck is hella soft to it. Also, could be wrong, but Path seems better suited for the sideboard.
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: MuggyWuggy on February 13, 2015, 03:33:38 AM
Cool, I may try another forest, been looking at MTGO results as its the only place bogles are tier 1. Maybe drop a canopy and save a lil money right now, I put 2 abors for sake of sac effects.

Thanks on the authority, it's very powerful when it was in standard (with madcap lol)l and I figure kor is a KOS anyway, why leave her susceptible.

Any other thoughts on subs for coronets over the current aura? Flying vigilance and +2/+2 ain't awful
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: imthelolrus on February 13, 2015, 12:01:40 PM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on February 13, 2015, 03:33:38 AM
Cool, I may try another forest, been looking at MTGO results as its the only place bogles are tier 1. Maybe drop a canopy and save a lil money right now, I put 2 abors for sake of sac effects.

Thanks on the authority, it's very powerful when it was in standard (with madcap lol)l and I figure kor is a KOS anyway, why leave her susceptible.

Any other thoughts on subs for coronets over the current aura? Flying vigilance and +2/+2 ain't awful
I think that's probably the best aura for the bogle, obviously not so great on scout but with this list I see you stealing games with spirit dancer more anyway.

Idk how i feel about two arbors. Some sideboard tech I've seen in the past was  {Fists of Ironwood} to help stall Lilly, IMO pithing needle is decent but it's hard with x4 decay. Just have to hope they don't draw her and be more aggressive
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: MuggyWuggy on February 13, 2015, 03:16:59 PM
You don't read sometimes bro.
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: NovusOrbis on February 14, 2015, 02:04:55 PM
How does the deck perform overall? Mtgtop8 has it as 3% of the aggro decks. I feel like this should be a really good deck, other than Lilly being a problem.
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: MuggyWuggy on February 14, 2015, 02:25:02 PM
Once I actually get the lands I can tell ya :)

I have everything but 2 spirit walkers, horizon canopy and razorverge thicket. It seems there may be a lot of burn in my local area, so hopefully I get to test it very soon!
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: NovusOrbis on February 14, 2015, 06:27:29 PM
Awesome, I look forward to hearing your results!
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: Mattao19 on February 14, 2015, 07:38:35 PM
You should run {Lifelink} AND {Spirit Link} lol gain 2x the life lol

Jk but I feel like {Spirit Link} is strictly better bc you gain 2x off of your courage!!

Also courage should be a 2-3 of no?
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: Munchlax on February 14, 2015, 09:11:28 PM
Hey, kid, wanna shiny Gladecover scout?
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: griffin131 on February 14, 2015, 10:49:18 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on February 14, 2015, 07:38:35 PM
You should run {Lifelink} AND {Spirit Link} lol gain 2x the life lol

Jk but I feel like {Spirit Link} is strictly better bc you gain 2x off of your courage!!

Also courage should be a 2-3 of no?
Spirit Link can also be thrown on an opponents creature if you have to - and then you gain the life.
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: Mattao19 on February 14, 2015, 10:55:52 PM
Quote from: griffin131 on February 14, 2015, 10:49:18 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on February 14, 2015, 07:38:35 PM
You should run {Lifelink} AND {Spirit Link} lol gain 2x the life lol

Jk but I feel like {Spirit Link} is strictly better bc you gain 2x off of your courage!!

Also courage should be a 2-3 of no?
Spirit Link can also be thrown on an opponents creature if you have to - and then you gain the life.

Very true!
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: imthelolrus on February 14, 2015, 11:22:30 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on February 14, 2015, 07:38:35 PM
You should run {Lifelink} AND {Spirit Link} lol gain 2x the life lol

Jk but I feel like {Spirit Link} is strictly better bc you gain 2x off of your courage!!

Also courage should be a 2-3 of no?
With less delver I don't like courage as more than a 1 or 2 of in the main. The fact it costs 3 is a huge problem, I prefer spirit mantle since you really want to ignore any blockers and get them to 0 life ASAP.
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: Mattao19 on February 14, 2015, 11:26:46 PM
True :P too bad daybreaks cost so much lol they are amazing!!!
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: MuggyWuggy on February 14, 2015, 11:56:19 PM
Yeah 33x 3 plus 3-4 horizon canopies

Ouch on the monies
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: imthelolrus on February 15, 2015, 12:43:22 PM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on February 14, 2015, 11:56:19 PM
Yeah 33x 3 plus 3-4 horizon canopies

Ouch on the monies
I'm hoping we get the future sight lands in MM2.
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: MuggyWuggy on February 15, 2015, 03:54:23 PM
Same with coronet
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: MuggyWuggy on March 17, 2015, 04:17:30 AM
Adjusted deck to have no canopies, they are just $120 for a set I don't NEED
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: Kaalia with haste on March 17, 2015, 08:33:52 AM
Gods willing seems meh especially with all your dudes being hexproof except spiritdancer. I guess the pseudo unblockable and the ability to use it as a combat trick is nice but I'd rather play apostles blessing
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: MuggyWuggy on March 17, 2015, 11:50:44 AM
I think bogles does lose to it, but hey, bogles is pure Aggro
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: LinkCelestrial on March 17, 2015, 01:25:15 PM
{Faith's Shield} over {Gods Willing} IMO.
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: Codester1991 on March 17, 2015, 08:02:12 PM
New enchantment in the dragons sent that gives you're creature double strike, as well as a one plain drop that's like +1/+3 and some other ability as well.
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: particle on March 18, 2015, 09:46:07 AM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 17, 2015, 01:25:15 PM
{Faith's Shield} over {Gods Willing} IMO.

Isn't {apostle's blessing} best here since it can get through affinity as well?
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: LinkCelestrial on March 18, 2015, 02:45:26 PM
Quote from: particle on March 18, 2015, 09:46:07 AM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 17, 2015, 01:25:15 PM
{Faith's Shield} over {Gods Willing} IMO.

Isn't {apostle's blessing} best here since it can get through affinity as well?

Affinity isn't very prevalent and if it is sideboard {Fracturing Gust} and such. Being able to save a land or an enchantment as well as your creatures is too valuable. Nevermind the fateful hour trigger.
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: Mattao19 on March 18, 2015, 03:44:33 PM
Guys guys guys Bogles borat need pro anything .... It runs things like {Spirit Mantle} and {Rancor} and {Unflinching Courage} so protection does very little .....
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: LinkCelestrial on March 18, 2015, 03:48:17 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on March 18, 2015, 03:44:33 PM
Guys guys guys Bogles borat need pro anything .... It runs things like {Spirit Mantle} and {Rancor} and {Unflinching Courage} so protection does very little .....

He has {Gods Willing} main boarded and I'm recommending an upgrade. I've only played against Bogles and protecting enchantments sounds great to me.
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: Mattao19 on March 18, 2015, 05:43:37 PM
Except it wastes a card in a deck that needs every card to be relevant.
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: LinkCelestrial on March 18, 2015, 07:24:40 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on March 18, 2015, 05:43:37 PM
Except it wastes a card in a deck that needs every card to be relevant.

I'm sure he wouldn't have them in his deck if they were irrelevant...
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: Mattao19 on March 18, 2015, 07:38:43 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 18, 2015, 07:24:40 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on March 18, 2015, 05:43:37 PM
Except it wastes a card in a deck that needs every card to be relevant.

I'm sure he wouldn't have them in his deck if they were irrelevant...

They aren't completely irrelevant but they are very very bad in here ...
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: LinkCelestrial on March 18, 2015, 08:11:27 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on March 18, 2015, 07:38:43 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 18, 2015, 07:24:40 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on March 18, 2015, 05:43:37 PM
Except it wastes a card in a deck that needs every card to be relevant.

I'm sure he wouldn't have them in his deck if they were irrelevant...

They aren't completely irrelevant but they are very very bad in here ...

I'll take your word for it. I'm guessing  {Sage's Reverie} is too much mana? Otherwise it seems like it'd be a reasonable use of the freed up slots. Finishing the  {Daybreak Coronet} playset is probably a better option.
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: MuggyWuggy on March 18, 2015, 09:05:29 PM
Going off of grixis' list and she seemed to like em
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: imthelolrus on March 21, 2015, 07:55:51 PM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on March 18, 2015, 09:05:29 PM
Going off of grixis' list and she seemed to like em
The whole idea is that you win with the hex proof guy, spiritdacer is sweet, but hey if they want to kill it they will. Similar to Bob is HAS to be answered. If you want the protection Id go with blessing as suggested, not so much for the affinity matchup (although that could be relevent bots is great and prevelent in my area). The best thing about blessing is its more flexible on your mana. Too much double white or te wrong lands and you can't cast {gods willing} :/
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: LinkCelestrial on March 22, 2015, 08:17:51 PM
Quote from: imthelolrus on March 21, 2015, 07:55:51 PM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on March 18, 2015, 09:05:29 PM
Going off of grixis' list and she seemed to like em
The whole idea is that you win with the hex proof guy, spiritdacer is sweet, but hey if they want to kill it they will. Similar to Bob is HAS to be answered. If you want the protection Id go with blessing as suggested, not so much for the affinity matchup (although that could be relevent bots is great and prevelent in my area). The best thing about blessing is its more flexible on your mana. Too much double white or te wrong lands and you can't cast {gods willing} :/

{God's Willing} is one white. If you can't produce that you've already lost...
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: LinkCelestrial on March 23, 2015, 02:29:11 PM
It's modern. This is a two color deck. That should never be an issue.
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: Silent1236 on March 23, 2015, 02:38:00 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 23, 2015, 02:29:11 PM
It's modern. This is a two color deck. That should never be an issue.

Mana screw still happens in modern ;)  But, unless you've only got the one forest out and only two lands, it's impossible to not have double white in this list.
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: LinkCelestrial on March 23, 2015, 02:57:09 PM
Quote from: Silent1236 on March 23, 2015, 02:38:00 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 23, 2015, 02:29:11 PM
It's modern. This is a two color deck. That should never be an issue.

Mana screw still happens in modern ;)  But, unless you've only got the one forest out and only two lands, it's impossible to not have double white in this list.

I understand that mana screw happens. But there's a difference between not drawing land and not drawing the right land. Modern is very good at fixing that issue. As you just said, it's near impossible not to hit {W}{W} in this list.
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: MuggyWuggy on March 26, 2015, 12:05:06 AM
Well alpha authority on gaddock teeg and a stony silence kept eggs at bay :)
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: MuggyWuggy on March 29, 2015, 12:05:59 AM
Updated after testing on untap.

- gods willing was never really used so removed em
- had too many lands so dropped foothills making it 20 total with dryads

-added more enchantments
-overbearing of myth has been great on the bogle. Flying bogles are very hard to block:)
Best game was a t3 kill
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: LinkCelestrial on March 29, 2015, 01:35:28 PM
Call me crazy but I want to say {Armadillo Cloak} over {Unflinching Courage} because style points. And possible double lifelink.
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: cltrn81 on March 29, 2015, 03:05:27 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 29, 2015, 01:35:28 PM
Call me crazy but I want to say {Armadillo Cloak} over {Unflinching Courage} because style points. And possible double lifelink.
Lifelink is not redundant like some abilities  and cloak is not modern legal
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: LinkCelestrial on March 29, 2015, 09:13:47 PM
Quote from: Taysby on March 29, 2015, 03:11:43 PM
Quote from: cltrn81 on March 29, 2015, 03:05:27 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 29, 2015, 01:35:28 PM
Call me crazy but I want to say {Armadillo Cloak} over {Unflinching Courage} because style points. And possible double lifelink.
Lifelink is not redundant like some abilities  and cloak is not modern legal

Armadillo cloak doesn't give the keyword lifelink. It gives an ability that does the same thing. So if you have something else that gives lifelink, you have double lifelink.

I totally thought it was modern legal. My bad.
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: cltrn81 on March 30, 2015, 08:00:26 AM
Quote from: Taysby on March 29, 2015, 03:11:43 PM
Quote from: cltrn81 on March 29, 2015, 03:05:27 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 29, 2015, 01:35:28 PM
Call me crazy but I want to say {Armadillo Cloak} over {Unflinching Courage} because style points. And possible double lifelink.
Lifelink is not redundant like some abilities  and cloak is not modern legal

Armadillo cloak doesn't give the keyword lifelink. It gives an ability that does the same thing. So if you have something else that gives lifelink, you have double lifelink.
I thought they changed oracle text on those cards to add lifelink.  I stand corrected on cloak :)

Double lifelink still not worky work though just as an fyi to others ;)
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: MuggyWuggy on April 04, 2015, 04:53:52 AM
Gonna try mana tithe in SB, because who doesn't love an unexpected counter or two
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: cltrn81 on April 04, 2015, 08:46:40 AM
I don't like MB {path to exile} But that is just me.  I go full glass cannon MB and SB in for threats once I see what I am playing
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: Mattao19 on April 04, 2015, 09:34:14 AM
As much as Mana Tithe is one of my favourite counterspells just please don't lol unless you don't want it to be competitive lol I mean it forces you to keep up W every turn and if you don't counter a Turn 1-3 spell you're kinda screwed :( but hey jank = awesome!
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: MuggyWuggy on April 05, 2015, 09:33:22 AM
So far current build pretty strong, has a good win % on untap

The lack of horizon canopy is fine, removed sun petal for basics just incase some land modifier comes up and sunpetal would sometimes just not come in untapped which seemed really inefficient.

If no tithe, then I can up stony and Graf diggers by 1
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: MuggyWuggy on June 19, 2015, 07:40:36 PM
Up
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: cltrn81 on June 19, 2015, 09:15:22 PM
Why spellskite in a hexproof deck?
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: MuggyWuggy on June 19, 2015, 10:02:38 PM
It's pretty efficient, took a hint from another bogles player who is owning the LA meta with bogles
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: Mattao19 on June 19, 2015, 11:22:03 PM
Can you elaborate bc skite seems so pointless to me!
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: MommaB on June 19, 2015, 11:44:51 PM
I could see it helping if you need a way to survive a burn or a pump on a infect it's an off chance but that's the fundimental risk of the game lol
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: MuggyWuggy on June 20, 2015, 12:18:39 AM
Quote from: Mattao19 on June 19, 2015, 11:22:03 PM
Can you elaborate bc skite seems so pointless to me!

Adds to creature count, I think since twin was such a big thing in meta, this makes it easy to thwart it. You can redirect any enchantment hate to it. Solid wall vs collected company decks.

Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: Mattao19 on June 20, 2015, 08:20:40 AM
Seems like a waste of a space game 1 Bogles needs to just power through with it's strategy. Sure it basically auto loses to twin game 1 but that happens in modern that's why sideboards are a thing!!

I'd take it out if I were you

Ps the extra creature count is bs lol
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: MuggyWuggy on June 20, 2015, 12:52:11 PM
Well if the guy in my local meta is using it and usually winning, I'm sure it's doing its part
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: Mattao19 on June 20, 2015, 01:16:14 PM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on June 20, 2015, 12:52:11 PM
Well if the guy in my local meta is using it and usually winning, I'm sure it's doing its part

That's not a really sound argument though I mean think of the cards that could be though. Just bc some random guy wins with it doesn't make it playable.

Hell one week I ran {Medomai the Ageless} in my UW Control deck and won FNM but that doesn't make Medomai good in UW Control
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: MuggyWuggy on June 20, 2015, 06:17:19 PM
I mean if someone is winning tournaments across Los Angeles at major stores and events, and people are side boarding more hate for bogles

I'm sure it's doing something right
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: Mattao19 on June 20, 2015, 09:42:44 PM
That's the thing though Spellskite isn't an answer to hate for Bogles. Hate for Bogles are edicts or wraths neither of which Skote does anything. The only thing skite does is top a path from exiling a Kor ....

If you want an extra creature Gaddock Teeg is played in a lot of Bogle SBs and even 1 guys mb on mtgtop8

(Sorry for arguing just trying to help :D)
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: MuggyWuggy on June 20, 2015, 11:17:37 PM
Teeg is already in sb
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: Mattao19 on June 21, 2015, 10:32:34 PM
Why Favour? That seems terrible at it's worst (on Kor or the silly Spellskite) and good at it's best (on bogle) but most times it's +1/+1 and vig I don't see the point in that bc there are so many good enchantments to play instead!
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: MuggyWuggy on June 21, 2015, 11:59:19 PM
Doing me fine
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: Mattao19 on June 22, 2015, 09:19:27 AM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on June 21, 2015, 11:59:19 PM
Doing me fine

I hate to keep being the bitchy commenter here lol but that's not possible.
4/16 of your creatures are {U/G}
6/16 are just {G} (8 if you incl. SB)
So 4/16 the card is good +2/+2 Fly/Vig
6/16 it's below mediocre +1/+1 Vig
Then 6/16 it's god awful 2 mana for nothing.

There are so many good auras out there! Load up on Umbras bc they dbl as auras and protection also up the courage count unflinching is a baws in this deck!
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: Ekann1 on June 22, 2015, 10:50:42 AM
Admittedly for the 6/16 where it does "nothing" 4/14 are spiritsdancers where it does give +2/+2...
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: Mattao19 on June 22, 2015, 11:24:43 AM
Quote from: Ekann1 on June 22, 2015, 10:50:42 AM
Admittedly for the 6/16 where it does "nothing" 4/14 are spiritsdancers where it does give +2/+2...

Except that any other enchantment would give the +2/+2 and have an additional bonus
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: MuggyWuggy on June 22, 2015, 02:30:41 PM
I mean you really are bitching about a build alot

In a format I don't really care much about

Modern = Aggro kill by t3/4 or setup combo pieces and win

No interaction in this format
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: Codester1991 on June 22, 2015, 03:04:21 PM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on June 22, 2015, 02:30:41 PM
I mean you really are bitching about a build alot

In a format I don't really care much about

Modern = Aggro kill by t3/4 or setup combo pieces and win

No interaction in this format

No need to dis the format :/ I love modern.

And in the formats defense, if there's no interaction and that's the only two type of decks that are played then tell me what does Jund and Abzan decks do? They're the top in the format aside from twin and they wreck shop. Pick you apart till they over run you turns 6-10.

That is all. Adios.

Also! Dude grixis tempo is a deck that's shutting down everyone! Lol there's two combo decks that are played consistently bloom and twin. Other than that sure you got burn Infect and affinity but those decks are in all the other formats other than standard.
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: Kaalia with haste on June 22, 2015, 06:11:47 PM
Telling somebody to not critique your deck when you posted it in a forum meant for that doesn't make much sense to me.
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: MuggyWuggy on June 22, 2015, 06:17:48 PM
Honestly I just post my decklist for my own records
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: Mattao19 on June 22, 2015, 06:23:07 PM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on June 22, 2015, 06:17:48 PM
Honestly I just post my decklist for my own records

Oh well my bad then I'm just trying to help you out :D
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: MuggyWuggy on June 22, 2015, 06:39:42 PM
I understand I can easily look at a top 8 decklist, but that doesn't make magic fun for me.

Do you know the pleasure of a flying 9/9 flying first strike life link bogle t3?

I do
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: Mattao19 on June 22, 2015, 06:52:50 PM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on June 22, 2015, 06:39:42 PM
I understand I can easily look at a top 8 decklist, but that doesn't make magic fun for me.

Do you know the pleasure of a flying 9/9 flying first strike life link bogle t3?

I do

Cool XD hopefully I don't play against that!!
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: MuggyWuggy on November 19, 2015, 07:31:35 AM
Bump for reference
Title: Re: Bogles
Post by: MuggyWuggy on December 07, 2015, 08:49:11 PM
For the haters

Added angelic gift and took out some other spells

Making hex proof flyers has really made the deck much more consistent at getting through