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Title: B/W.....Tokens????
Post by: PhilE on February 10, 2015, 12:45:10 AM

B/W.....Tokens????

60 cards, 15 sideboard

4 {Swamp}
4 {Scoured Barrens}
4 {Caves of Koilos}
1 {Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth}
4 {Temple of Silence}
6 {Plains}
1 {Mana Confluence}

24 lands

4 {Seeker of the Way}
3 {Ojutai Exemplars}
3 {Monastery Mentor}

10 creatures

3 {Bile Blight}
3 {Hero's Downfall}
2 {Myth Realized}
1 {Dictate of Heliod}
3 {Secure the Wastes}
2 {Valorous Stance}
4 {Raise the Alarm}
3 {Sorin, Solemn Visitor}
3 {Read the Bones}
2 {Thoughtseize}

26 other spells

Sideboard

3 {Nyx-Fleece Ram}
1 {Thoughtseize}
1 {Hero's Downfall}
1 {Liliana Vess}
2 {Utter End}
1 {Mastery of the Unseen}
1 {Bile Blight}
2 {Drown in Sorrow}
1 {Valorous Stance}
2 {Elspeth, Sun's Champion}

15 sideboard cards

Notes:
Pretty excited about this. Went 4-0 last FNM.

Title: Re: B/W.....Tokens????
Post by: lotrwk on February 10, 2015, 07:26:06 AM

Looks nice. Hows 25 lands working? Seems like a 24 land deck to me

Title: Re: B/W.....Tokens????
Post by: PhilE on February 11, 2015, 10:34:06 PM

Quote from: lotrwk on February 10, 2015, 07:26:06 AM
Looks nice. Hows 25 lands working? Seems like a 24 land deck to me

Yeah 24 might be okay. I'll try it. Any suggestions other than that?

Title: Re: B/W.....Tokens????
Post by: lotrwk on February 12, 2015, 07:18:55 AM

How has mentor been? Whenever we test it in a deck like this, it just seems to under perform. I think a 3/3 split between it and Brimaz might be a bit better

Title: Re: B/W.....Tokens????
Post by: lotrwk on February 12, 2015, 07:19:57 AM

How has mentor been? Whenever we test it in a deck like this, it just seems to under perform. I think a 3/3 split between it and Brimaz might be a bit better

Title: Re: B/W.....Tokens????
Post by: PhilE on February 12, 2015, 05:42:43 PM

Quote from: lotrwk on February 12, 2015, 07:19:57 AM
How has mentor been? Whenever we test it in a deck like this, it just seems to under perform. I think a 3/3 split between it and Brimaz might be a bit better

I've really liked mentor so far, although I'll admit he can be bad in certain matchups. I'll test the 3/3 split.

Btw I took out a land like you suggested and its running smoother. Thanks!

Title: Re: B/W.....Tokens????
Post by: LinkCelestrial on February 12, 2015, 05:45:11 PM

What about the creature that makes a token every time it attacks? And {Brutal Hordecheif}?

Title: Re: B/W.....Tokens????
Post by: Nfidel2k on February 12, 2015, 08:45:35 PM

Quote from: LinkCelestrial on February 12, 2015, 05:45:11 PM
What about the creature that makes a token every time it attacks? And {Brutal Hordecheif}?

{Mardu Strike Leader}

Title: Re: B/W.....Tokens????
Post by: PhilE on February 12, 2015, 09:18:54 PM

Quote from: LinkCelestrial on February 12, 2015, 05:45:11 PM
What about the creature that makes a token every time it attacks? And {Brutal Hordecheif}?

I'd prefer to keep the creatures to a minimum as to benefit from the prowess triggers, not to mention the 3 drop slot is already pretty crowded. I'm not sure about {mardu strike leader} but I'll test it.

{brutal hordechief} is an interesting idea, maybe as a one of. Could be pretty good. Thanks for the suggestion!

Also, thoughts on {harsh sustenance}? It might be too cute, but it crossed my mind.

Title: Re: B/W.....Tokens????
Post by: LinkCelestrial on February 12, 2015, 09:47:45 PM

Quote from: PhilE on February 12, 2015, 09:18:54 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on February 12, 2015, 05:45:11 PM
What about the creature that makes a token every time it attacks? And {Brutal Hordecheif}?

I'd prefer to keep the creatures to a minimum as to benefit from the prowess triggers, not to mention the 3 drop slot is already pretty crowded. I'm not sure about {mardu strike leader} but I'll test it.

{brutal hordechief} is an interesting idea, maybe as a one of. Could be pretty good. Thanks for the suggestion!

Also, thoughts on {harsh sustenance}? It might be too cute, but it crossed my mind.

Was ridiculously good in the prerelease. As long as you can consistently get something like 4+ creatures on the board it could be quite good. I'd suggest playtesting.

Title: Re: B/W.....Tokens????
Post by: lotrwk on February 12, 2015, 10:30:40 PM

Quote from: PhilE on February 12, 2015, 09:18:54 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on February 12, 2015, 05:45:11 PM
What about the creature that makes a token every time it attacks? And {Brutal Hordecheif}?

I'd prefer to keep the creatures to a minimum as to benefit from the prowess triggers, not to mention the 3 drop slot is already pretty crowded. I'm not sure about {mardu strike leader} but I'll test it.

{brutal hordechief} is an interesting idea, maybe as a one of. Could be pretty good. Thanks for the suggestion!

Also, thoughts on {harsh sustenance}? It might be too cute, but it crossed my mind.

Seems pretty bad. you have ways to gai. Life in Sorin and seeker, and ways to kill things with bloght and downfall. It isn't really reach because it requires a decent number of creatures.

Title: Re: B/W.....Tokens????
Post by: Ekann1 on February 13, 2015, 09:02:15 AM

With so many token making spells I'd consider {Murderous Cut}, you should always have Delve fuel for it.

Title: Re: B/W.....Tokens????
Post by: PhilE on March 26, 2015, 03:09:41 PM

Updated with DTK. Thoughts?

Title: Re: B/W.....Tokens????
Post by: LinkCelestrial on March 26, 2015, 06:01:57 PM

I feel you gain a lot from red. {Impact Tremors}, {Dragon Fodder} and {Hordling Outburst}.

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