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Magic (The Gathering) => Rules => Topic started by: Maxpayne03 on February 05, 2015, 10:40:39 AM

Title: Stifle Batterskull
Post by: Maxpayne03 on February 05, 2015, 10:40:39 AM
if my opponent cast a {Batterskull}, can I {Stifle}  the living artifact effect?
Title: Re: Stifle Batterskull
Post by: Cender on February 05, 2015, 10:54:52 AM
Quote from: Maxpayne03 on February 05, 2015, 10:40:39 AM
if my opponent cast a {Batterskull}, can I {Stifle}  the living artifact effect?

Yes. The living weapon effect is a trigger upon ETB that an be Stifled.

112.3c (http://imtgapp.com/forum/index.php?action=imtg;area=rule;number=112.3c): Triggered abilities have a trigger condition and an effect. They are written as "[Trigger condition], [effect]," and include (and usually begin with) the word "when," "whenever," or "at." Whenever the trigger event occurs, the ability is put on the stack the next time a player would receive priority and stays there until it's countered, it resolves, or it otherwise leaves the stack. See rule 603, "Handling Triggered Abilities."


Title: Re: Stifle Batterskull
Post by: rarehuntertay on February 05, 2015, 12:37:15 PM
Here's something better.
{Sapphire Charm}
Phase out the token, and  {Batterskull} is gone forever!!
Title: Re: Stifle Batterskull
Post by: Rass on February 05, 2015, 12:58:55 PM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on February 05, 2015, 12:37:15 PM
Here's something better.
{Sapphire Charm}
Phase out the token, and  {Batterskull} is gone forever!!

Lol. I need to get a set of those. But make sure they don't have 3 mana up.
Title: Re: Stifle Batterskull
Post by: Prplprince on February 06, 2015, 09:43:39 PM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on February 05, 2015, 12:37:15 PM
Here's something better.
{Sapphire Charm}
Phase out the token, and  {Batterskull} is gone forever!!

The ability phase was way before my time. So if you phase the token out anything attached to it goes with it?
Title: Re: Stifle Batterskull
Post by: Prplprince on February 06, 2015, 10:51:38 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on February 06, 2015, 09:44:41 PM
Yes
and because tokens cease to exist if they leave the battlefield, then it never "phases" back, permanently removing all attached stuffs

Ha wow. And phasing doesn't cause ETB triggers to trigger on reentry correct?
Title: Re: Stifle Batterskull
Post by: Pi on February 07, 2015, 12:14:49 AM
Quote from: Prplprince on February 06, 2015, 10:51:38 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on February 06, 2015, 09:44:41 PM
Yes
and because tokens cease to exist if they leave the battlefield, then it never "phases" back, permanently removing all attached stuffs

Ha wow. And phasing doesn't cause ETB triggers to trigger on reentry correct?
Correct, leaving the battlefield don't count either.
Title: Re: Stifle Batterskull
Post by: Oldschoolmtgnoob on February 07, 2015, 02:21:40 PM
I'm confused...why does the attached equipment go with the phased token? Wouldn't batter skull just fall off and sit like a regular equipment? What if you {heroes downfall}ed the token?
Title: Re: Stifle Batterskull
Post by: Cender on February 07, 2015, 06:19:29 PM
Quote from: Oldschoolmtgnoob on February 07, 2015, 02:21:40 PM
I'm confused...why does the attached equipment go with the phased token? Wouldn't batter skull just fall off and sit like a regular equipment? What if you {heroes downfall}ed the token?

702.25f (http://imtgapp.com/forum/index.php?action=imtg;area=rule;number=702.25f): When a permanent phases out, any Auras, Equipment, or Fortifications attached to that permanent phase out at the same time. This alternate way of phasing out is known as phasing out "indirectly." An Aura, Equipment, or Fortification that phased out indirectly won't phase in by itself, but instead phases in along with the permanent it's attached to.
Title: Re: Stifle Batterskull
Post by: Oldschoolmtgnoob on February 07, 2015, 07:25:03 PM
Oooh so that's a specific thing that happens just with phasing. Got it