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Magic (The Gathering) => Rules => Topic started by: mickeven on February 02, 2015, 12:20:02 PM

Title: Elbus the Blinding Blade
Post by: mickeven on February 02, 2015, 12:20:02 PM
Is {Elbrus, the Binding Blade}'s color identity for EDH colorless or is it black due to its flipside?
Title: Re: Elbus the Blinding Blade
Post by: griffin131 on February 02, 2015, 12:42:05 PM
Black.
Title: Re: Elbus the Blinding Blade
Post by: mickeven on February 02, 2015, 01:38:36 PM
Quote from: griffin131 on February 02, 2015, 12:42:05 PM
Black.
got it. thank you!
Title: Re: Elbus the Blinding Blade
Post by: Pi on February 02, 2015, 10:23:07 PM

903.4c The back face of a double-faced card (see rule 711) is included when determining a card's color identity. This is an exception to rule 711.4a.
Example: Civilized Scholar is the front face of a double-faced card with mana cost {2}{U}. Homicidal Brute is the back face of that double-faced card and has a red color indicator. The card's color identity is blue and red.
Title: Re: Elbus the Blinding Blade
Post by: Lunis22 on May 09, 2015, 03:12:13 PM
I want to note that in this app when searching for solely colorless legendary creatures   {Withengar Unbound} is listed.
Title: Re: Elbus the Blinding Blade
Post by: Lunis22 on May 09, 2015, 03:14:03 PM
Also he is not listed under black legendary creatures.
Title: Re: Elbus the Blinding Blade
Post by: Kaylesh on May 09, 2015, 05:02:25 PM
I think that has to do with the mana costs. The app does not check color identity.
Since Elbrus is colorless, the app considers it's flip side as colorless (my theory at least).
Due to the color marker, Withengar IS black.
Title: Re: Elbus the Blinding Blade
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on May 10, 2015, 03:47:03 AM
Quote from: Kaylesh on May 09, 2015, 05:02:25 PM
I think that has to do with the mana costs. The app does not check color identity.
Since Elbrus is colorless, the app considers it's flip side as colorless (my theory at least).
Due to the color marker, Withengar IS black.
Indeed, color identity is not a factor in this. The search is simply yielding cards based off of converted mana cost. For example, {Rhys the Exiled} would turn up in a solely {G} legendary creature search, even with it's {B}/{G} color identity.