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Title: Better box
Post by: Rass on February 02, 2015, 12:03:14 AM
khans or fate. Looking value wise. Looking long term after the new set hype. I'm thinking fate because of the extra fetches.
Title: Re: Better box
Post by: Ekann1 on February 02, 2015, 10:02:32 AM
I would say just buy the fetches themselves and not a box, but between the two I think Khans is  more likely to have fetches.
Title: Re: Better box
Post by: Johng4490 on February 02, 2015, 10:33:25 AM
Khans will have the foil fetches too.
Title: Re: Better box
Post by: Estel2931 on February 02, 2015, 12:46:30 PM
Personally, I think FRF has the better mythics. You have a better chance of pulling fetches from Khans, but I think it'll be a toss up as to which set increases in value over the years. It will depend on how the mythics/ rares, in this set, do in external formats.
Title: Re: Better box
Post by: DirtyMustachio on February 02, 2015, 02:09:17 PM
I am glad you asked, I mean you gotta wonder how ktk value will wain considering how much stuff was opened, I particularly favor frf because all the rares in ktk are affordable
Title: Re: Better box
Post by: MuggyWuggy on February 02, 2015, 02:44:53 PM
Buy fetches and tasigur

That's it
Title: Re: Better box
Post by: Rass on February 02, 2015, 02:59:29 PM
Wasn't talking just fetches. Also the other stuff just for sng.
Title: Re: Better box
Post by: DirtyMustachio on February 02, 2015, 03:14:39 PM
Yeah who knows how much {tasigur, the golden fang} will rise over time
Title: Re: Better box
Post by: MuggyWuggy on February 02, 2015, 04:17:10 PM
With dig and tcruise bannedim modern we lose value on KTK. We have sorin in bw tokens. Siege rhino, fetches and foil fetches.

What else is eternal in KTK

FRF
Ugin, Tasigur, non foil fetches, mentor/soulfire? Kinda early to tell, collateral damage is one I think that will be a $1 common one day for eternal burn decks. Too good of synergy with eidolon of great revel (he will increase too IMO)


Both are pretty even, it's almost down to what eternal decks use FRF cards, tasigur for sure will be somewhere in a bug deck
Title: Re: Better box
Post by: Anoobass on February 02, 2015, 04:45:53 PM
How is collateral damage good synergy, just responding to the kill spell by saccing and getting in 3 dmg?
Title: Re: Better box
Post by: MuggyWuggy on February 02, 2015, 05:35:07 PM
No end of opoonents turn, you can sac eidolon for Cost, deal 3 damage, nuke em a bunch before casting another eidolon in your 2nd main phase,

You don't suffer from Eidolon damage and your opponent gets nervous about spending mana
Title: Re: Better box
Post by: Anoobass on February 02, 2015, 05:40:08 PM
Interesting.  I'll see about adding that in my build
Title: Re: Better box
Post by: MuggyWuggy on February 02, 2015, 05:42:07 PM
Yes, I think it's something to keep an eye out for

Tasigur is OP also, delve is just amazing with all formats. GY is easy to fill
Title: Re: Better box
Post by: lotrwk on February 02, 2015, 05:45:58 PM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on February 02, 2015, 05:42:07 PM
Yes, I think it's something to keep an eye out for

Tasigur is OP also, delve is just amazing with all formats. GY is easy to fill
I don't think overpowered is a good term for what tasigur is.
Title: Re: Better box
Post by: Anoobass on February 02, 2015, 05:52:38 PM
The only card I see worthy of replacing tho is {searing blood}, but I like the 2 for 1, even if it costs extra.
Title: Re: Better box
Post by: DirtyMustachio on February 02, 2015, 08:31:13 PM
Khans is a big set to, I feel like the ratio to hit the good cards are better in frf
Title: Re: Better box
Post by: LinkCelestrial on February 02, 2015, 08:45:22 PM
IMO FRF has more playable and cool cards in the common and uncommon slot. Along with how much Khans is being opened/has been opened, I'd lean FRF. And fetches in FRF don't take up the rare slot, so that's a possibility for more money. I mean you can't bank on foil fetches. (I've never even seen one.) At prerelease it seemed like every kit had one (except for me and my cousin, but other people pulled 2 or 3) so I think that's odds around 1/6?

If it was me personally I'd be looking at Khans and FRF and seeing which one I wanted more cards from personally.
Title: Re: Better box
Post by: DirtyMustachio on February 02, 2015, 09:15:41 PM
Lol I just got 4 packs at target with my girl because yolo, Of frf

foil yasova dc
Crux of f
Whisperwood e
Torrent e
Brutal hc

Wtf 3 of four mythics but Crux lol

Yeah I think I'll be getting another box of frf
Title: Re: Better box
Post by: Avnger345 on February 03, 2015, 08:23:54 AM
Fetches in frf are on average 1 per box.    Unless you get a fetch box and get 36 of them.
Title: Re: Better box
Post by: Rass on February 03, 2015, 10:51:09 AM
Quote from: Avnger345 on February 03, 2015, 08:23:54 AM
Fetches in frf are on average 1 per box.    Unless you get a fetch box and get 36 of them.

I've seen 3-4 per box so far. 3 boxes only.
Title: Re: Better box
Post by: MuggyWuggy on February 03, 2015, 11:32:51 AM
I believe it's 1.6 per FRF. 2.6 per KTK
Title: Re: Better box
Post by: Rass on February 03, 2015, 12:19:09 PM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on February 03, 2015, 11:32:51 AM
I believe it's 1.6 per FRF. 2.6 per KTK

Any idea where you got those numbers from?

Ktk has been crap for fetches in 4 boxes.
Title: Re: Better box
Post by: MuggyWuggy on February 03, 2015, 12:30:36 PM
Asking stores their average per case