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Title: Capital punishment is a deterrent
Post by: Piotr on January 29, 2015, 10:29:52 AM
If you spent 9 months in Malaysia on a business project, would you smoke ganja knowing that possession of marijuana is punishable by death in that country?

If you spent 9 months in Saudi Arabia on a business project, would you be openly gay in public knowing that being a homosexual is punishable by death in that country?
Title: Re: Capital punishment is a deterrent
Post by: the_intelligentleman on January 29, 2015, 10:34:57 AM
Well, I really can't answer this because I'm not gay, and therefore don't know what I would say. Maybe my sexuality is that important to me. But the pot one is just dumb. Just don't smoke pot.
Title: Re: Capital punishment is a deterrent
Post by: Distriimuir on January 29, 2015, 10:47:01 AM
Since I'm American, and the embassy would freak the hell out for givin me the death penalty for such small issues, yes I would still do it. Fear of death doesn't stop us all Piotr.
Title: Re: Capital punishment is a deterrent
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on January 29, 2015, 11:54:27 AM
I assume this in response to the murder ban with bravado, and I would like to point out keeping a secret and smoking ganja are very different from killing
Title: Re: Capital punishment is a deterrent
Post by: Piotr on January 30, 2015, 04:18:35 AM
Quote from: Distriimuir on January 29, 2015, 10:47:01 AM
Since I'm American

... you are more likely to be put to prison and die for smoking ganja than any other nation in the world. And for that you don't need to leave your federal country at all.
Title: Re: Capital punishment is a deterrent
Post by: Piotr on January 30, 2015, 04:25:03 AM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on January 29, 2015, 11:54:27 AM
I would like to point out keeping a secret and smoking ganja are very different from killing

No kidding? However both are performed by human beings who are subject to the same psychological reactions. 2 in 2 + 3 does not suddenly behave differently when in 2 + 5, it still adds 2.
Title: Re: Capital punishment is a deterrent
Post by: Ekann1 on January 30, 2015, 08:01:02 AM
Quote from: Piotr on January 30, 2015, 04:18:35 AM
Quote from: Distriimuir on January 29, 2015, 10:47:01 AM
Since I'm American

... you are more likely to be put to prison and die for smoking ganja than any other nation in the world. And for that you don't need to leave your federal country at all.
Without trying to start a big fight again, I'd point out that this is a claim not backed up by any links or evidence. I have no reason to disbelieve it but considering something sort of similar started this I thought I'd mention it...
Title: Re: Capital punishment is a deterrent
Post by: Piotr on January 30, 2015, 08:58:08 AM
Quote from: E.kann1 on January 30, 2015, 08:01:02 AM
Quote from: Piotr on January 30, 2015, 04:18:35 AM
Quote from: Distriimuir on January 29, 2015, 10:47:01 AM
Since I'm American

... you are more likely to be put to prison and die for smoking ganja than any other nation in the world. And for that you don't need to leave your federal country at all.
Without trying to start a big fight again, I'd point out that this is a claim not backed up by any links or evidence. I have no reason to disbelieve it but considering something sort of similar started this I thought I'd mention it...

Good observation, Falc0n ;)

I believe data exists showing that USA has by far the most people incarcerated per capita, and most of the people sitting in prisons are related to so called War on Drugs?
Title: Re: Capital punishment is a deterrent
Post by: Distriimuir on January 30, 2015, 12:11:10 PM
Quote from: Piotr on January 30, 2015, 04:18:35 AM
Quote from: Distriimuir on January 29, 2015, 10:47:01 AM
Since I'm American

... you are more likely to be put to prison and die for smoking ganja than any other nation in the world. And for that you don't need to leave your federal country at all.

Oh I agree wholeheartedly on that point lol. I have no need to see the world. We have most environments here, I can see it all here for the most part.
Title: Re: Capital punishment is a deterrent
Post by: griffin131 on January 31, 2015, 08:52:14 AM
Quote from: Piotr on January 30, 2015, 08:58:08 AM
Quote from: E.kann1 on January 30, 2015, 08:01:02 AM
Quote from: Piotr on January 30, 2015, 04:18:35 AM
Quote from: Distriimuir on January 29, 2015, 10:47:01 AM
Since I'm American

... you are more likely to be put to prison and die for smoking ganja than any other nation in the world. And for that you don't need to leave your federal country at all.
Without trying to start a big fight again, I'd point out that this is a claim not backed up by any links or evidence. I have no reason to disbelieve it but considering something sort of similar started this I thought I'd mention it...

Good observation, Falc0n ;)

I believe data exists showing that USA has by far the most people incarcerated per capita, and most of the people sitting in prisons are related to so called War on Drugs?
So you have two statements, neither of which prove, and I'll quote, "you are more likely to be put to prison and die for smoking ganja"? 
I'm sure you can find scientific evidence of life convictions solely for marijuana use to prove your statement true.
Title: Re: Capital punishment is a deterrent
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on January 31, 2015, 01:17:43 PM
Quote from: Piotr on January 30, 2015, 04:18:35 AM
Quote from: Distriimuir on January 29, 2015, 10:47:01 AM
Since I'm American

... you are more likely to be put to prison and die for smoking ganja than any other nation in the world. And for that you don't need to leave your federal country at all.
We're turning it around. Here in Colorado we legalized marijuana about a year ago.
Title: Re: Capital punishment is a deterrent
Post by: Spencer Addington on February 01, 2015, 09:26:47 PM
Quote from: ConanEdo on January 31, 2015, 11:59:59 AM
I'd bang George Clooney and Johnny Depp in front of the Kaaba.
The .love.?
Title: Re: Capital punishment is a deterrent
Post by: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on February 01, 2015, 10:43:19 PM
Quote from: ConanEdo on January 31, 2015, 11:59:59 AM
I'd bang George Clooney and Johnny Depp in front of the Kaaba.
Who wouldn't 😜

In response to homosexuality invoking capital punishment, there is no point in telling people you are gay when visiting that kind of place.  You probably aren't going to meet another gay person and have a relationship with that person.  You could also argue that maybe you are in a relationship at that point, and seeing as it is a business trip, also assume your partner isn't coming with you.  You can just talk on the phone while there behind closed doors, it's stupid to risk dying over your sexuality.