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Title: Chainer, Grave Thief
Post by: Spencer Addington on January 29, 2015, 12:03:56 AM

Chainer, Grave Thief

100 cards, 0 sideboard


1 {Chainer, Dementia Master}
1 {Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx}
38 {Swamp}
1 {Cabal Coffers}

40 lands


1 {Fleshbag Marauder}
1 {Harvester of Souls}
1 {Erebos, God of the Dead}
1 {Massacre Wurm}
1 {Platinum Emperion}
1 {Crypt Ghast}
1 {Blightsteel Colossus}
1 {Skirsdag High Priest}
1 {Sheoldred, Whispering One}
1 {Disciple of Griselbrand}
1 {Kokusho, the Evening Star}
1 {Rune-Scarred Demon}
1 {Gray Merchant of Asphodel}
1 {Merciless Executioner}
1 {Cao Cao, Lord of Wei}
1 {Geth, Lord of the Vault}
1 {Avatar of Woe}
1 {Reaper from the Abyss}
1 {Shriekmaw}

19 creatures


1 {Liliana of the Dark Realms}
1 {Dash Hopes}
1 {Liliana Vess}
1 {Tragic Slip}
1 {Innocent Blood}
1 {Geth's Verdict}
1 {Swiftfoot Boots}
1 {Grave Pact}
1 {Extraplanar Lens}
1 {Mask of Avacyn}
1 {Life's Finale}
1 {Withering Boon}
1 {Gauntlet of Power}
1 {Imp's Mischief}
1 {Demonic Tutor}
1 {Grimoire of the Dead}
1 {Buried Alive}
1 {Lightning Greaves}
1 {Rise of the Dark Realms}
1 {Mutilate}
1 {Cloak and Dagger}
1 {Profane Command}
1 {Toxic Deluge}
1 {Attrition}
1 {Cabal Therapy}
1 {Black Sun's Zenith}
1 {Whip of Erebos}
1 {Whispersilk Cloak}
1 {Smallpox}
1 {Ob Nixilis of the Black Oath}
1 {Crux of Fate}
1 {Do or Die}
1 {Diabolic Edict}
1 {Phyrexian Arena}
1 {Cruel Tutor}
1 {Diabolic Tutor}
1 {Devour Flesh}
1 {Reanimate}
1 {Diabolic Intent}
1 {Barter in Blood}

40 other spells


Sideboard
Title: Re: Chainer, Grave Thief
Post by: JordanCirk on January 29, 2015, 08:26:49 AM
Seems like you have a lot of lands, but  {Caged Sun},  {Extraplanar Lens},  {Rune-Scarred Demon} Should all be in this deck.
Title: Re: Chainer, Grave Thief
Post by: blackychan1 on January 29, 2015, 09:11:00 AM
You should protect chainer more. That way, all the sweet avacyns and vorinclexs don't get exiled!
Title: Re: Chainer, Grave Thief
Post by: Spencer Addington on January 29, 2015, 10:16:02 AM
Any suggestions for protection?
Title: Re: Chainer, Grave Thief
Post by: cltrn81 on January 29, 2015, 10:16:15 AM
Quote from: blackychan1 on January 29, 2015, 09:11:00 AM
You should protect chainer more. That way, all the sweet avacyns and vorinclexs don't get exiled!
My thought exactly.  {swords to plowshares} turns into an almost board wiper
Title: Re: Chainer, Grave Thief
Post by: the_intelligentleman on January 29, 2015, 11:21:23 AM
{Lightning Greaves}  and {Swiftfoot Boots}
Title: Re: Chainer, Grave Thief
Post by: blackychan1 on January 29, 2015, 11:29:52 AM
Quote from: Spencer Addington on January 29, 2015, 10:16:02 AM
Any suggestions for protection?
{champion's helm}
{whispersilk cloak}
{cloak and dagger}
{mask of avacyn}
There's like 5 more equipments that do this.
Title: Re: Chainer, Grave Thief
Post by: Spencer Addington on January 29, 2015, 12:39:19 PM
How does it look?
Title: Re: Chainer, Grave Thief
Post by: blackychan1 on January 29, 2015, 01:21:13 PM
I notice that you have very few creatures. And I think that it's because you intend to reanimate your opponents' creatures. But what if your opponents also don't run many creatures? If you are going to be reanimator, I think that you should at least have 20-25+ creatures for good reanimator targets and general threats.

Also, 43 lands for a monocolor deck seems rather excessive. Especially with {gauntlet of power}, {extraplanar lens}, and {Cabal coffers}.
Title: Re: Chainer, Grave Thief
Post by: cltrn81 on January 29, 2015, 02:14:54 PM
Do you have the 3 cmc sorcery that let's you fetch 3 creatures and put em in your GY?  Can't remember the name
Title: Re: Chainer, Grave Thief
Post by: Thetrufflehunter on January 29, 2015, 07:13:18 PM
Quote from: cltrn81 on January 29, 2015, 02:14:54 PM
Do you have the 3 cmc sorcery that let's you fetch 3 creatures and put em in your GY?  Can't remember the name

{Buried Alive}.
Title: Re: Chainer, Grave Thief
Post by: Spencer Addington on January 29, 2015, 09:42:42 PM
Quote from: blackychan1 on January 29, 2015, 01:21:13 PM
I notice that you have very few creatures. And I think that it's because you intend to reanimate your opponents' creatures. But what if your opponents also don't run many creatures? If you are going to be reanimator, I think that you should at least have 20-25+ creatures for good reanimator targets and general threats.

Also, 43 lands for a monocolor deck seems rather excessive. Especially with {gauntlet of power}, {extraplanar lens}, and {Cabal coffers}.
What would be the best reanimator targets?
Title: Re: Chainer, Grave Thief
Post by: Spencer Addington on January 30, 2015, 12:33:07 AM
Ok guys, filled it out with bigger reanimator targets, got all the protective equipment I could, have lots of removal and a fair bit of ramp(as much as black can get).
Title: Re: Chainer, Grave Thief
Post by: blackychan1 on January 30, 2015, 10:57:12 AM
-1 swamp +1 {phyrexian arena}?

Also, you may need some life gain. Your deck is already kinda slow, and that's fine, it's a slow format. But you are going to lose some life getting where you need to be. Also, you have to pay 3 life EVERYTIME you use Chainer...
Title: Re: Chainer, Grave Thief
Post by: Spencer Addington on January 30, 2015, 11:12:31 AM
Quote from: blackychan1 on January 30, 2015, 10:57:12 AM
-1 swamp +1 {phyrexian arena}?

Also, you may need some life gain. Your deck is already kinda slow, and that's fine, it's a slow format. But you are going to lose some life getting where you need to be. Also, you have to pay 3 life EVERYTIME you use Chainer...
Arena is in. I'll think about what I could add for lifegain.
Title: Re: Chainer, Grave Thief
Post by: JordanCirk on January 30, 2015, 01:04:41 PM
Quote from: Spencer Addington on January 30, 2015, 11:12:31 AM
Quote from: blackychan1 on January 30, 2015, 10:57:12 AM
-1 swamp +1 {phyrexian arena}?

Also, you may need some life gain. Your deck is already kinda slow, and that's fine, it's a slow format. But you are going to lose some life getting where you need to be. Also, you have to pay 3 life EVERYTIME you use Chainer...
Arena is in. I'll think about what I could add for lifegain.
Well... In a mono black shell for life gain starters...  {Gray Merchant of Asphodel} Is always a good place to start. Plus an insane Reanimation target.
Title: Re: Chainer, Grave Thief
Post by: Spencer Addington on February 01, 2015, 09:07:34 PM
Any other suggestions?
Title: Re: Chainer, Grave Thief
Post by: particle on February 03, 2015, 09:38:15 AM
Got lots of suggestions since I run mono black. First, I'd cut {dash hopes}. Unless a player is looking at lethal, they are going to pay the life. Now in terms of additions, {nirkana revenant}, {urborg, tomb of yawgmoth} for coffers, {reliquary tower}, {necropotence}, {damnation}, {karn liberated} and {steel hellkite} for pesky noncreature permanents like {humility}. {sorin markov} is a jerk kind of card but it still normally basically ends the game for someone. Good luck.