They pulled it from the App Store, wow.
Quote from: Piotr on April 17, 2012, 07:13:26 AM
They pulled it from the App Store, wow.
XD YES!!! Probably because they knew that imtg was where it's at!
Dope! Haha! They didn't make the money that they expected they would! This sounds wrong to say, but, Suck it Wizards! Don't be d-bags to your loyal customers!
The app has to many problems. It always crashed.
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on April 17, 2012, 07:28:02 AM
Dope! Haha! They didn't make the money that they expected they would! This sounds wrong to say, but, Suck it Wizards! Don't be d-bags to your loyal customers!
My thoughts exactly
I think it's temporary, from what the reviews say the latest version had a 'feature' which deleted all your decks on update, they probably pulled it to stop the disaster and are working on the fix, or already waiting for Apple to approve the next version. But then again, if someone really pulled the plug on this failed PR project, can't say I'll be unhappy ;)
I had a dream. A dream where WotC bestowed Piotr and iMtG with offical status. They said "Keep doing what you're doing! Have some cash, and go ahead and use the pics and mana symbols free of fear." And Piotr did. And it was glorious.
Seriously, though, it does kind of suck. I would like to see both an awesome official and unofficial app. Both can do stuff the other can't.
How about you try and contact them and maybe strike a deal with them? I mean dnt completly sell out to them just try and get some cash out of them, i know you didnt make this app to get rich thats why its free but who can argue with getting money for something they have been giving away for free?
If it goes large it may mean a forum merge which has more people but we may lose the tight knit group you have here, all in all I think if they let piotr do his thing it'd be for the best
I believe he already reached out to Wizards previously and didn't really get a response.
They said they are not interested.
Quote from: Piotr on April 17, 2012, 06:57:55 PM
They said they are not interested.
Wow seems like there becoming more interested in making money themselves instead of promoting a game they have been making for years... Its a sad world we live in.
Quote from: Sevenfold on April 17, 2012, 08:05:38 PM
Quote from: Piotr on April 17, 2012, 06:57:55 PM
They said they are not interested.
Wow seems like there becoming more interested in making money themselves instead of promoting a game they have been making for years... Its a sad world we live in.
They really can give two $hits about the game they want your money
Maybe it was all our protest and reviews ;)
Quote from: Pakamper on April 18, 2012, 10:36:36 PM
Maybe it was all our protest and reviews ;)
We can hope
Quote from: Rass on April 17, 2012, 08:24:37 PM
Quote from: Sevenfold on April 17, 2012, 08:05:38 PM
Quote from: Piotr on April 17, 2012, 06:57:55 PM
They said they are not interested.
Wow seems like there becoming more interested in making money themselves instead of promoting a game they have been making for years... Its a sad world we live in.
They really can give two $hits about the game they want your money
They make money by creating a great game. If the game sucks, people stop playing. People stop playing, they stop buying. They stop buying, WotC stops making money. You see oh this works?
Their problem is that they make great games, but 💩 software. I think DotP has been their only good software export ever.
Quote from: BlackJester on April 18, 2012, 11:52:16 PM
Quote from: Rass on April 17, 2012, 08:24:37 PM
Quote from: Sevenfold on April 17, 2012, 08:05:38 PM
Quote from: Piotr on April 17, 2012, 06:57:55 PM
They said they are not interested.
Wow seems like there becoming more interested in making money themselves instead of promoting a game they have been making for years... Its a sad world we live in.
They really can give two $hits about the game they want your money
They make money by creating a great game. If the game sucks, people stop playing. People stop playing, they stop buying. They stop buying, WotC stops making money. You see oh this works?
Their problem is that they make great games, but 💩 software. I think DotP has been their only good software export ever.
Even at that, DotP is so generic. ALL of the decks run on auto-pilot, and there are so many features missing that just make it so varied from real life M:tG. For instance, manual land tapping! That's barely a new thing in 2013, I've been screwed over due to bad AI tapping, I really hate Pre-cons too. They should make a Version with a bigger Card Pool, and something like an in-game currency system to buy more packs, and allow Built From Scratch decks, I mean come on! The DotP Online Competetive Scene isn't that crazy, throw in more cards! Let the players get creative! They could make a single massive "Core Set" that the card packs and Symbols would show, (The D12/D11 set symbol) and still have precons, but like I said, allow pack purchasing! That would make the game sick! The code for pack randomization and generation is already on M:tGO, just alter the card pool and code parameters, it couldn't be that hard!
We're getting off topic:
If they do that, why would people bother to play MTGO anymore? I think they want to avoid stepping on the toes of their other areas. If they allow pools of cards in DotP, then ppl will want more and more. Player stop joining MTGO and play DotP because they don't have to "pay" for these new cards.
Card values drop for MTGO players who are now screwed over. I think DotP is a great intro for new players. Having some restrictions on deckbuilding allows for some customization without blowing the minds of n00bs. Magic is a ridiculously complex game. Having certain designed decks allows them to focus on the gameplay. They have more control over the environment and can keep thinks balanced, and avoid insanity like infinite combos. (i love them IRL, by having to step through one in a game would be a {Reoccurring Nightmare}!)
It's like saying you want to completely customize how hard and fast Ryu punches, or make your own MK character from scratch. Fighting games are still fun, even if you don't have control over customizing. It's how you pilot each one.
tl;dr DotP ain't too broke, so don't fix it.
Quote from: BlackJester on April 18, 2012, 11:52:16 PM
Quote from: Rass on April 17, 2012, 08:24:37 PM
Quote from: Sevenfold on April 17, 2012, 08:05:38 PM
Quote from: Piotr on April 17, 2012, 06:57:55 PM
They said they are not interested.
Wow seems like there becoming more interested in making money themselves instead of promoting a game they have been making for years... Its a sad world we live in.
They really can give two $hits about the game they want your money
They make money by creating a great game. If the game sucks, people stop playing. People stop playing, they stop buying. They stop buying, WotC stops making money. You see oh this works?
Their problem is that they make great games, but 💩 software. I think DotP has been their only good software export ever.
Yes but what's their bottom line to make money. Yea it's nice to make the game work well but do you think it's necessary to make a new set every four months and make older sets banned? It's so people have to keep buying. No matter what they are gonna make that new set every 4 months or so because they know they can sell it.
I think we will have to agree to disagree. Because I don't think they care about the product as long as it sells. To sell it they do have to put some thought into it but if they thought they could get away with selling crap they would.
You are right, we will have to disagree.
I spend too much time reading articles written by the people responsible for making the game. Read some of their work and tell me you don't sense their love and passion for the game.
There are tons of players and mtg lovers who would kill for a shot to work at WotC and make Magic cards on a daily basis. You seem to think the only people they hire are just there for a paycheck.
Nope I don't think the everyday employees I think the higher up who actually make the major decisions are all green eyed
I'm sure the people who develop the cards would love extra time to test and balance the cards more but the higher ups found that they can toss out a set every few months even with mostly reprints (core sets) and people will continue to buy it.
They actually had an online poll asking players if they wanted Wizards to make more, less, or the same rate of cards. Players said a resounding MORE!
I guess I didn't see it.
Early on, it used to be three set a year, (one big, two small) and a core set every other year. Back when Unhinged was released, after Mirrodin block, Kamigawa block came out, followed by 9th Ed. Then came Ravnica block and they did a special Coldsnap set as sort of a "gag", and lead in to Timespiral block. Then came 10th Ed. This was followed by Lorwyn/Shadowmoor. By this time, they had been consistently putting out 4 sets a year, and players were very happy! I think the survey came around Zendikar block, but I'd have to dig it up.
Here's some discussion on the topic:
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/mm/68
Not to mention older sets are still supported by formats like Modern, Legacy and such..
Having new sets rotate in and old ones move out keeps the Standard environment new and evolving. It's not like Monopoly, Magic is a different game every time you play it, and it's been changing for nearly two decades.
Over two decades ;]
He's responding to black jesters comment after the fact
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on April 06, 2016, 04:19:32 PM
He's responding to black jesters comment after the fact
Ah, yes. Got it. Tx for the wake up.
Yes human brain is capable of ignoring the year part of the date if given limited time resources. This is common trait among our species.
Quote from: Piotr on April 06, 2016, 05:12:20 PM
Yes human brain is capable of ignoring the year part of the date if given limited time resources. This is common trait among our species.
I know that one only too well.. It can really mess with perception.
😳😳
Everybody works this same way, if you do not take enough time to focus on a scene, brain will add the missing bits which clearly had no time to pass along the optical nerve from eye to brain, by filling the missing bits according to current state of the brain's neural network to provide complete illusion of reality for the consciousness.
Or as the polish saying / proverb goes: "when you are in a hurry, the Devil smiles".
Quote from: GlowackAttack on April 07, 2016, 11:52:20 PM
Quote from: Piotr on April 07, 2016, 08:02:06 AM
Everybody works this same way, if you do not take enough time to focus on a scene, brain will add the missing bits which clearly had no time to pass along the optical nerve from eye to brain, by filling the missing bits according to current state of the brain's neural network to provide complete illusion of reality for the consciousness.
if I remember correctly, the eye to brain function is almost instantaneous. The reason why you fill out the missing bits is because our brains can only process so much so it takes shortcuts in order to absorb the most information possible. It references past knowledge so seeing some kids playing with a beach ball isn't detailed but the action is sort of "fluffed out". Our brain knows what a pair of kids playing with a beach ball is, it doesn't care about the shirt they were wearing or the length of their hair, so it just omit's it. Our brains love to take the easiest route possible... Like a kid who frequently forgets to study for a test so he became a master of winging it. There's a specific name for that selective information gathering while omitting the rest.... but I don't remember, it's been a while. I've always loved reading about brains as a kid and stuff like that.
Information transfer is limited by speed of light, unless you can disprove General Theory of Relativity. In the particular example we are discussing, the bottleneck is the wire between the eye and the brain, not the brain as you are saying.
Given limited data, brain will still construct full illusion of reality for consciousness, and for the purposes of self preservation it will fill the missing bits with the best information it thinks it has, typically the freshest but the exact algorithm is not yet clear to me. This is all already proven by modern neuroscience, I was following this particular research area for the last 30 years and can tell you much more about it if you are interested.
BTW, the kid newer forgot to study, it was studying something much more important in the time it would waste for the homework ;]
I'm not sure if I appreciate your new Gravatar.
Speed of light is the ultimate limit of information propagation. It does link to the speed of K+ ion signals passed along the nerves. The number of biological cells is countable and is proven to be the bottleneck. The realisation led us to see the reality in different light ;]
The friendship is appreciated, but your new Gravatar is also misleading for other users and therefore is against iMtG Law.
You can quite easily calculate number of neurons per cubic meter. Speed of neuron is easily measurable too. Yes we are both right as the same concept applies to various coprocessors of the brain which seem to co-create the consciousness.
So does the app automatically update your imtg to imtg2 ?
Quote from: Codester1991 on April 08, 2016, 08:07:38 PM
So does the app automatically update your imtg to imtg2 ?
It will not if you do have your device set to update apps automatically.
Settings>iTunes and App Store>Automatic Downloads set Apps to Off
It's too late. Updated by itself. Lol
Piotr my ocd is freaking me out right now, in the deck builder is there a way in IMTG2 to organize the cards so all the 4 sets go with 4 sets and 2 sets go with 2 sets or are they stuck randomly in there???? Sorry to be weird about this but it's like freaking me out lol
For instance i want it to be like
4 plains
4 swamp
4 verdant catacombs
2 marsh flats
But instead it's like
4 plains
2 marsh flats
4 verdant catacombs
4 swamps
We used to be able to drag those up and down and on the app it isn't letting me do that lol
Figured it out sorry for the spaz! Lol