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Title: Loremaster vs Tournament Player
Post by: Noblellama on January 26, 2015, 09:04:26 AM
So I have been around the game a while (early 1995) and I love the game and the story.

I'm a deck builder, drafter, player and lore master. I love to take the cards I have and build decks, I never buy singles, never pre-order, and trade for what I need. This isn't a statement about those that do, on the contrary, you guys are awesome about predicting which cards are gonna be awesome before I even realize it.

What this is instead, is a statement of sadness about the current player meta. My LGS had fnm and draft as usual on release weekend and during the whole time, they periodically asked trivia questions about magic's past due to the time traveling nature. 76 players in the store and only one other guy knew anything about the story besides me.

Anyways, a playmat, 2 shirts and a pack of deck sleeves later I walk away happy but sad.

Why do so many of the new players not care about the gigantic story that have this game life? It is tall about the newest net deck or combo is it?


Side note: I won draft undefeated with mono white...
Title: Re: Loremaster vs Tournament Player
Post by: Spikepit on January 26, 2015, 09:07:22 AM
Word.
Title: Re: Loremaster vs Tournament Player
Post by: Rass on January 26, 2015, 09:53:57 AM
No idea. I was before the stories. Then the book with the  {Arena} Came out. I'm not a big reader so I got the book and the card but didn't read it. So I really don't care about the lore just that it's a fun game.
Title: Re: Loremaster vs Tournament Player
Post by: blackychan1 on January 26, 2015, 12:11:55 PM
I've never really thought about it. I'm a fairly new player (about 2 years). The story may be too immense for me to be able to tackle it by now. I have no idea where to start!
Title: Re: Loremaster vs Tournament Player
Post by: rarehuntertay on January 26, 2015, 01:10:19 PM
Miserable grumpy old men unite!!!
First thing I did when I got back into the game was to catchup on 10-years of lore
Title: Re: Loremaster vs Tournament Player
Post by: MuggyWuggy on January 26, 2015, 01:40:49 PM
TBH the books are about the level of Dan Brown. Read them when I was a kid, and it was interesting then...but so were also doom scifi novels.

I enjoyed THS a lot due to my fandom of Greek mythology. Ugin and Sarkhan and PWs.. Why when I was a kid, only you were the PW and urza or lim dul was the bad guy, now were traveling planes and dimensions and different ages like we have some sort of magical time portal. Bring back mana burn and ante. Demonic attorney T1 is all I need. Damn kids and your silly elspeths.
Title: Re: Loremaster vs Tournament Player
Post by: rarehuntertay on January 26, 2015, 02:03:48 PM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on January 26, 2015, 01:40:49 PM
TBH the books are about the level of Dan Brown. Read them when I was a kid, and it was interesting then...but so were also doom scifi novels.

I enjoyed THS a lot due to my fandom of Greek mythology. Ugin and Sarkhan and PWs.. Why when I was a kid, only you were the PW and urza or lim dul was the bad guy, now were traveling planes and dimensions and different ages like we have some sort of magical time portal. Bring back mana burn and ante. Demonic attorney T1 is all I need. Damn kids and your silly elspeths.
You want power? Unlimited power? Then sign my  {Contract from Below}!!
Title: Re: Loremaster vs Tournament Player
Post by: MuggyWuggy on January 26, 2015, 02:31:21 PM
{Dakkon blackblade} best esper general
Title: Re: Loremaster vs Tournament Player
Post by: Rass on January 26, 2015, 02:48:58 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on January 26, 2015, 02:42:32 PM
We used to play .........


Uphill both ways in the snow 50 degrees below zero.
Title: Re: Loremaster vs Tournament Player
Post by: Destore117 on January 26, 2015, 02:55:54 PM
I don't know much about the story but what I do I pass around with my friends, Sorin's cool and the whole Urza made a robot named Karn which created an entire plane of reality. Makes me think I'm missing out on a lot of the meat of Magic. Although I do have one of the books for Mirrodin with Glissa trying to figure out why the Levelers are after her and she meets Bosh the golem and the goblin (I wanna say squee? But I can't remember.) and like looking through Mirrodin set I'd see cards and be like Oh hey...that's from the...YEAH!!! REFERENCES!

Stuff like that makes me happy playin magic ^-^
Title: Re: Loremaster vs Tournament Player
Post by: Distriimuir on January 26, 2015, 04:02:28 PM
The backstory lore is what got me into magic, and what keeps me buying new sets.
Title: Re: Loremaster vs Tournament Player
Post by: Anoobass on January 26, 2015, 05:03:33 PM
Idk how many people I speak for, but I for one do not like reading.  And it's not like I'm bad at it, being my worst subject, I still did better than most of my class in school.  But what usually ends up happening is the story starts to lul, and I get bored.

Not to say I haven't read anything, I read 5 of the halo books and I loved [most of] them.  The reason I stopped at 5 was when I read contact harvest, it had too many drawn out, uninteresting parts and I barely finished it. 

So not to say that I don't want to read the backstory/lore, but if I lose interest, it just makes me sad that I wasted my time.
Title: Re: Loremaster vs Tournament Player
Post by: Kaylesh on January 26, 2015, 06:08:47 PM
Me for myself, I am a bit of a go between. I don't preorder or buy cards for their power level, yet I do like to combo with what I have, oldskool like even before the chronicles and books and sets. I never cared too much for the stories, but liked the references of the old cards, like the quotes from Coleridge on the zombie, forgot his name.
Title: Re: Loremaster vs Tournament Player
Post by: LinkCelestrial on January 26, 2015, 08:12:37 PM
I'm pretty familiar with the current storyline, including the Zendikar "backstory". I don't know very much about Theros, except that Elspeth killed Daxos because Xenagos then she got mad and killed Xenagos and Heliod got scared and killed Elspeth.

I honestly quite like the storyline. I want to see a format where decks are all in "flavor". Like if you guys remember the Garruk vs Ajani wallgames. Sometimes I try to make a deck work just cause the flavor of it is too good to pass up.
Title: Re: Loremaster vs Tournament Player
Post by: MuggyWuggy on January 26, 2015, 08:56:34 PM
Is that why Daxos isn't good enough for constructed?
Title: Re: Loremaster vs Tournament Player
Post by: Anoobass on January 26, 2015, 10:16:46 PM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on January 26, 2015, 08:56:34 PM
Is that why Daxos isn't good enough for constructed?
#shotsfired
Title: Re: Loremaster vs Tournament Player
Post by: Destore117 on January 27, 2015, 02:37:06 AM
Isn't there like Shandalar or something that's the space between planes? And it's where Chandra is from?
My memory hurts I definitely need to re-read some of those manuals I get with boxes and stuff
Title: Re: Loremaster vs Tournament Player
Post by: Destore117 on January 29, 2015, 03:02:29 PM
Quote from: GlowackAttack on January 27, 2015, 05:12:16 AM
Quote from: Destore117 on January 27, 2015, 02:37:06 AM
Isn't there like Shandalar or something that's the space between planes? And it's where Chandra is from?
My memory hurts I definitely need to re-read some of those manuals I get with boxes and stuff
I think her name just sounds similar to shandalar... Chandra Nalaar, that's it.


Side note, my auto correct really wanted me to say sandals and chandelier balas.... like... 10 minutes went into this post
Sorry for your hassle.
And I thought Shandalar was were slivers and other things that work their way into "core sets" came from as well.

Also I can't remember if half the names I mention are Magic, WoW, or LoL related. It all blends into a mesh of nerdy lovelies
Title: Re: Loremaster vs Tournament Player
Post by: LinkCelestrial on January 29, 2015, 08:47:23 PM
I'm pretty sure Shandalar is just the plane that core sets take place on. They currently have a sliver problem there.
Title: Re: Loremaster vs Tournament Player
Post by: Destore117 on January 30, 2015, 12:25:38 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on January 29, 2015, 08:47:23 PM
I'm pretty sure Shandalar is just the plane that core sets take place on. They currently have a sliver problem there.
Let me just paste every keyword ability into my slivers box. Problem?
Title: Re: Loremaster vs Tournament Player
Post by: Kaylesh on January 30, 2015, 12:47:21 PM
Quote from: Destore117 on January 30, 2015, 12:25:38 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on January 29, 2015, 08:47:23 PM
I'm pretty sure Shandalar is just the plane that core sets take place on. They currently have a sliver problem there.
Let me just paste every keyword ability into my slivers box. Problem?
That's more of a player pov. The lore master would likely from on the use of Stronghold and M15 slivers together.
Title: Re: Loremaster vs Tournament Player
Post by: rarehuntertay on January 30, 2015, 01:27:52 PM
Quote from: Kaylesh on January 30, 2015, 12:47:21 PM
Quote from: Destore117 on January 30, 2015, 12:25:38 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on January 29, 2015, 08:47:23 PM
I'm pretty sure Shandalar is just the plane that core sets take place on. They currently have a sliver problem there.
Let me just paste every keyword ability into my slivers box. Problem?
That's more of a player pov. The lore master would likely from on the use of Stronghold and M15 slivers together.
I have a pauper sliver deck. If anyone is interested, I can post it later