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Bouncey N. Goats 60 cards, 0 sideboard 5 {Plains} 4 {Island} 3 {Mountain} 3 {Vivid Meadow} 2 {Springjack Pasture} 2 {Vivid Creek} 1 {Flooded Strand} 20 lands 4 {Springjack Shepherd} 2 {Solemn Simulacrum} 4 {Augury Owl} 2 {Omenspeaker} 4 {Soul's Attendant} 16 creatures 4 {Cathars' Crusade} 3 {Ghostly Flicker} 2 {Oblivion Ring} 3 {Legion's Initiative} 3 {Intangible Virtue} 2 {Teleportal} 4 {Cloudshift} 3 {Faithless Looting} 24 other spells Sideboard

This is an update of my last version, I need some help (not too expensive) filling the last two slots.

Seems like you need some more white mana symbols in your permanents.

Quote from: the_intelligentleman on January 23, 2015, 07:52:02 AM
Seems like you need some more white mana symbols in your permanents.

He's right on the spot here. Your chroma count will be on average, 1.6(ish) I'd consolidate your mama base into white plus light splash. Is it worth having {Teleportal} unblockable Goats when you can instead {Cathars Crusade} them into wrecking balls with Chroma synergy?

Instead of red why not add anthem effects like {honor of the pure}?

Because of the synergy of legions initiative.

Quote from: Cender on January 23, 2015, 07:59:46 AM

Quote from: the_intelligentleman on January 23, 2015, 07:52:02 AM
Seems like you need some more white mana symbols in your permanents.

He's right on the spot here. Your chroma count will be on average, 1.6(ish) I'd consolidate your mama base into white plus light splash. Is it worth having {Teleportal} unblockable Goats when you can instead {Cathars Crusade} them into wrecking balls with Chroma synergy?

Yes it is believe it ir not that is about 1/2 my wins.

i am thinking about {grand abolisher}, {archangel of thune} and {knight of the white orchard}

Quote from: Z5 on January 23, 2015, 10:10:55 AM

Quote from: Cender on January 23, 2015, 07:59:46 AM

Quote from: the_intelligentleman on January 23, 2015, 07:52:02 AM
Seems like you need some more white mana symbols in your permanents.

He's right on the spot here. Your chroma count will be on average, 1.6(ish) I'd consolidate your mama base into white plus light splash. Is it worth having {Teleportal} unblockable Goats when you can instead {Cathars Crusade} them into wrecking balls with Chroma synergy?

Yes it is believe it ir not that is about 1/2 my wins.

But how often do you win and against what decks?

Quote from: Munchlax on January 23, 2015, 12:01:57 PM

Quote from: Z5 on January 23, 2015, 10:10:55 AM

Quote from: Cender on January 23, 2015, 07:59:46 AM

Quote from: the_intelligentleman on January 23, 2015, 07:52:02 AM
Seems like you need some more white mana symbols in your permanents.

He's right on the spot here. Your chroma count will be on average, 1.6(ish) I'd consolidate your mama base into white plus light splash. Is it worth having {Teleportal} unblockable Goats when you can instead {Cathars Crusade} them into wrecking balls with Chroma synergy?

Yes it is believe it ir not that is about 1/2 my wins.

But how often do you win and against what decks?

Munchlax is on the spot here as well. +1.

The hidden portion of your sentence is: "...as it is built right now."

I look at your deck and see:
One fetch land.
6 vivid lands.
A high percentage of top deck "wrong" lands.

Ask yourself: how many games have been lost to color screw and/or being too slow? Now, compare that to your {Teleportal} wins.

If you really think keeping it is vital to your deck, then my main suggestion is to fortify your mana base with fetches and shocks. It isn't probably what you want to hear. Which is why I suggested the previous alternative: minimize your color dependencies.

Maybe consider replacing the springjack Shepard with something like {Stonehorn Dignitary}

{Boros Reckonet} for the white devotion.

Quote from: Z5 on January 23, 2015, 10:09:57 AM
Because of the synergy of legions initiative.

You also mentioned synergy with {Legions Initiative}, however you also have negative synergy. All your tokens get exiled and cease to exist. Sure, you get more provided the shepherd comes back into play. It's still a risk.

Quote from: Munchlax on January 23, 2015, 03:27:27 PM
Maybe consider replacing the springjack Shepard with something like {Stonehorn Dignitary}

Why?

Quote from: Cender on January 23, 2015, 12:32:02 PM

Quote from: Munchlax on January 23, 2015, 12:01:57 PM

Quote from: Z5 on January 23, 2015, 10:10:55 AM

Quote from: Cender on January 23, 2015, 07:59:46 AM

Quote from: the_intelligentleman on January 23, 2015, 07:52:02 AM
Seems like you need some more white mana symbols in your permanents.

He's right on the spot here. Your chroma count will be on average, 1.6(ish) I'd consolidate your mama base into white plus light splash. Is it worth having {Teleportal} unblockable Goats when you can instead {Cathars Crusade} them into wrecking balls with Chroma synergy?

Yes it is believe it ir not that is about 1/2 my wins.

But how often do you win and against what decks?

Munchlax is on the spot here as well. +1.

The hidden portion of your sentence is: "...as it is built right now."

I look at your deck and see:
One fetch land.
6 vivid lands.
A high percentage of top deck "wrong" lands.

Ask yourself: how many games have been lost to color screw and/or being too slow? Now, compare that to your {Teleportal} wins.

If you really think keeping it is vital to your deck, then my main suggestion is to fortify your mana base with fetches and shocks. It isn't probably what you want to hear. Which is why I suggested the previous alternative: minimize your color dependencies.

Its a great idea, I have been experimenting but this design works fine, we are mostly using cards in our own collections eg. the single fetch. Also my deck wins 3/4 of the time against my friends brews (scape, goblin combo, dragonshift)

Quote from: Cender on January 23, 2015, 05:08:40 PM

Quote from: Z5 on January 23, 2015, 10:09:57 AM
Because of the synergy of legions initiative.

You also mentioned synergy with {Legions Initiative}, however you also have negative synergy. All your tokens get exiled and cease to exist. Sure, you get more provided the shepherd comes back into play. It's still a risk.

You are 100% correct, this is why I cut it down to three, but it usually has a such a big inpact that the negative synergy is almost nonexistent.

Quote from: Z5 on January 23, 2015, 06:46:59 PM

Quote from: Cender on January 23, 2015, 12:32:02 PM

Quote from: Munchlax on January 23, 2015, 12:01:57 PM

Quote from: Z5 on January 23, 2015, 10:10:55 AM

Quote from: Cender on January 23, 2015, 07:59:46 AM

Quote from: the_intelligentleman on January 23, 2015, 07:52:02 AM
Seems like you need some more white mana symbols in your permanents.

He's right on the spot here. Your chroma count will be on average, 1.6(ish) I'd consolidate your mama base into white plus light splash. Is it worth having {Teleportal} unblockable Goats when you can instead {Cathars Crusade} them into wrecking balls with Chroma synergy?

Yes it is believe it ir not that is about 1/2 my wins.

But how often do you win and against what decks?

Munchlax is on the spot here as well. +1.

The hidden portion of your sentence is: "...as it is built right now."

I look at your deck and see:
One fetch land.
6 vivid lands.
A high percentage of top deck "wrong" lands.

Ask yourself: how many games have been lost to color screw and/or being too slow? Now, compare that to your {Teleportal} wins.

If you really think keeping it is vital to your deck, then my main suggestion is to fortify your mana base with fetches and shocks. It isn't probably what you want to hear. Which is why I suggested the previous alternative: minimize your color dependencies.

Its a great idea, I have been experimenting but this design works fine, we are mostly using cards in our own collections eg. the single fetch. Also my deck wins 3/4 of the time against my friends brews (scape, goblin combo, dragonshift)

But those are your friends deck which makes that a casual meta, not competitive. You should have told us this before.

Oh sorry, I assumed u knew because of the title and stratagy.