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Magic (The Gathering) => Rules => Topic started by: Popper23345 on December 30, 2014, 02:54:50 PM

Title: Sol ring
Post by: Popper23345 on December 30, 2014, 02:54:50 PM
can you tap {sol ring} the turn it comes in?  I think that you can't, but I've seen commander games where they tap it for mana the turn it comes In
Title: Re: Sol ring
Post by: Popper23345 on December 30, 2014, 03:01:16 PM
Are you for real? Wow, I've missed SO many opportunities XD

Thanks llama :))
Title: Re: Sol ring
Post by: Ekann1 on December 30, 2014, 03:25:24 PM
Non-creature artifacts don't have summoning sickness :)
Title: Re: Sol ring
Post by: particle on December 30, 2014, 03:41:31 PM
Quote from: E.kann1 on December 30, 2014, 03:25:24 PM
Non-creature artifacts don't have summoning sickness :)

Double negative hurting my brain. Creatures have summoning sickness, unless they have haste. Artifact creatures have summoning sickness, unless they have haste. Artifacts that arent creatures do not have summoning sickness. They can use activated abilities that require tapping the turn they enter.
Title: Re: Sol ring
Post by: Popper23345 on December 30, 2014, 04:17:37 PM
Thanks everyone!!
Title: Re: Sol ring
Post by: Remillo on December 30, 2014, 05:17:00 PM
Slight semantics, but in actuality, ALL permanents have summoning sickness.  However, only creatures are effected by it.  If you play a Mutavault, then activate it, it wont be able to attack because the summoning sickness now effects it.
Title: Re: Sol ring
Post by: Popper23345 on December 30, 2014, 07:38:05 PM
So, summoning sickness only affects creatures that could attack on the first turn?

For example
If I summoned a land that has an activated ability to permanently turn it into a 3/3 (let's say) golem, then the golem wouldn't be able to attack if I activated the ability on the first turn the land came into play?
Title: Re: Sol ring
Post by: Remillo on December 30, 2014, 07:43:43 PM
Quote from: Popper23345 on December 30, 2014, 07:38:05 PM
So, summoning sickness only affects creatures that could attack on the first turn?

For example
If I summoned a land that has an activated ability to permanently turn it into a 3/3 (let's say) golem, then the golem wouldn't be able to attack if I activated the ability on the first turn the land came into play?

Correct.  The permanent itself has summoning sickness, but it's only actually effected by it if it is (or becomes) a creature.
Title: Re: Sol ring
Post by: Popper23345 on December 30, 2014, 08:14:39 PM
Quote from: Remillo on December 30, 2014, 07:43:43 PM
Quote from: Popper23345 on December 30, 2014, 07:38:05 PM
So, summoning sickness only affects creatures that could attack on the first turn?

For example
If I summoned a land that has an activated ability to permanently turn it into a 3/3 (let's say) golem, then the golem wouldn't be able to attack if I activated the ability on the first turn the land came into play?

Correct.  The permanent itself has summoning sickness, but it's only actually effected by it if it is (or becomes) a creature.
Sweet, thanks Rem :)
Title: Re: Sol ring
Post by: cltrn81 on January 02, 2015, 09:05:07 PM
Perfect example of what Remilio is saying.  You cast {sol ring}, you can tap it to produce mana.  However, let's say instead you cast {ensoul artifact} on the untapped sol ring you just played this turn.  Now you cannot tap the sol ring for mana or to attack since it is now a creature that came into play that same turn.