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Title: Kaalia
Post by: Prplprince on December 04, 2014, 02:27:48 AM
Kaalia

100 cards, 0 sideboard


1 {Kaalia of the Vast}
1 {Command Tower}
1 {City of Brass}
1 {Mana Confluence}
1 {Gemstone Mine}
1 {Nomad Outpost}
1 {Marsh Flats}
1 {Bloodstained Mire}
1 {Scalding Tarn}
1 {Polluted Delta}
1 {Flooded Strand}
1 {Verdant Catacombs}
1 {Wooded Foothills}
1 {Windswept Heath}
1 {Arid Mesa}
1 {Badlands}
1 {Plateau}
1 {Scrubland}
1 {Sacred Foundry}
1 {Godless Shrine}
1 {Blood Crypt}
1 {Dragonskull Summit}
1 {Clifftop Retreat}
1 {Isolated Chapel}
1 {Caves of Koilos}
1 {Sulfurous Springs}
1 {Battlefield Forge}
1 {Eiganjo Castle}
1 {Shinka, the Bloodsoaked Keep}
1 {Shizo, Death's Storehouse}
1 {Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth}
1 {Volrath's Stronghold}
1 {Hall of the Bandit Lord}
1 {Homeward Path}
1 {Strip Mine}
1 {Wasteland}
1 {Swamp}
1 {Mountain}
1 {Plains}

38 lands


1 {Mother of Runes}
1 {Simian Spirit Guide}
1 {Angel of Finality}
1 {Desecration Demon}
1 {Linvala, Keeper of Silence}
1 {Restoration Angel}
1 {Rakdos, Lord of Riots}
1 {Shadowborn Demon}
1 {Basandra, Battle Seraph}
1 {Master of Cruelties}
1 {Thundermaw Hellkite}
1 {Karmic Guide}
1 {Bloodgift Demon}
1 {Aurelia, the Warleader}
1 {Deathless Angel}
1 {Yosei, the Morning Star}
1 {Steel Hellkite}
1 {Balefire Dragon}
1 {Lord of the Void}
1 {Dragon Mage}
1 {Angel of Despair}
1 {Angelic Arbiter}
1 {Platinum Angel}
1 {Gisela, Blade of Goldnight}
1 {Rune-Scarred Demon}
1 {Tariel, Reckoner of Souls}
1 {Avacyn, Angel of Hope}
1 {Iona, Shield of Emeria}

28 creatures


1 {Vampiric Tutor}
1 {Lightning Bolt}
1 {Need for Speed}
1 {Swords to Plowshares}
1 {Path to Exile}
1 {Demonic Tutor}
1 {Withering Boon}
1 {Disenchant}
1 {Revoke Existence}
1 {Lightning Greaves}
1 {Swiftfoot Boots}
1 {Arrest}
1 {Aura of Silence}
1 {Necropotence}
1 {Act of Authority}
1 {Chaos Warp}
1 {Council's Judgment}
1 {Hero's Downfall}
1 {Darksteel Plate}
1 {Damnation}
1 {Wrath of God}
1 {Mox Diamond}
1 {Lotus Petal}
1 {Sol Ring}
1 {Boros Signet}
1 {Rakdos Signet}
1 {Orzhov Signet}
1 {Marble Diamond}
1 {Charcoal Diamond}
1 {Fire Diamond}
1 {Mind Stone}
1 {Coalition Relic}
1 {Chromatic Lantern}

33 other spells


Sideboard
Title: Re: Kaalia
Post by: Prplprince on December 04, 2014, 02:32:21 AM
Hey guys. Kaalia was my first edh deck a loooong time ago. I never really played her because my play groups edh decks were under powered and it would blow them out of the water. If course now that we've added players to the group and everyone's skill level went up I dusted off the old deck and found it to be very lacking lol just a bunch of demons angels and dragons shoved in sleeves. I've decided to build the deck into a much more competitive version to match the power of my friend's 1v1 decks. Money isn't really an issue because I already have 90% of these cards. Feed back welcome if I forgot something. I don't make competitive edh decks so these are new waters I tread into
Title: Re: Kaalia
Post by: AdamS on December 04, 2014, 04:24:37 AM
you should have a few more basics to deal with  {Blood Moon} just a thought other than that it looks good
Title: Re: Kaalia
Post by: Kaalia with haste on December 04, 2014, 07:39:08 AM
{basandra} seems meh, unless you're making a certain meta call. Also {Tariel} isn't very good, maybe it's just me, but I hate doing things at random. Also {indulgent tormentor} isn't great in EDH, it just makes target opponent lose 3 life on your upkeep. One last thing: I'd make {malfegor} {dragon Mage} because it just lets you refuel your hand, and in a similar vein, {necropotence}
Title: Re: Kaalia
Post by: Mattacheu on December 04, 2014, 11:09:55 AM
Why no. {Griselbrand}?
Title: Re: Kaalia
Post by: Kaalia with haste on December 04, 2014, 11:30:56 AM
Quote from: Mattacheu on December 04, 2014, 11:09:55 AM
Why no. {Griselbrand}?
Uh. It's banned. Assuming this is multiplayer, at least (which the sol ring suggests)
Title: Re: Kaalia
Post by: Prplprince on December 04, 2014, 12:38:17 PM
I'm liking dragon Mage and necro. Basandra is just because a lot of my friends do combat tricks. Tal is in because I have a love affair with him lol.

Griz is banned in my play group so I don't use him to keep it social (says the kaalia player)

Blood moon is scary but I really do have a spot to put more basics because of my need for colors. Maybe the pain lands for 3 more basics
Title: Re: Kaalia
Post by: JordanCirk on December 04, 2014, 07:19:55 PM
Quote from: Prplprince on December 04, 2014, 12:38:17 PM
I'm liking dragon Mage and necro. Basandra is just because a lot of my friends do combat tricks. Tal is in because I have a love affair with him lol.

Griz is banned in my play group so I don't use him to keep it social (says the kaalia player)

Blood moon is scary but I really do have a spot to put more basics because of my need for colors. Maybe the pain lands for 3 more basics
Honestly you should run blood moon yourself? You have quite a few mana rocks, and going t2-3 Kaalia into blood moon and just start dropping demons and angels and dragons sounds pretty good to me.
Title: Re: Kaalia
Post by: Kaalia with haste on December 04, 2014, 08:25:44 PM
Quote from: Prplprince on December 04, 2014, 12:38:17 PM
I'm liking dragon Mage and necro. Basandra is just because a lot of my friends do combat tricks. Tal is in because I have a love affair with him lol.

Griz is banned in my play group so I don't use him to keep it social (says the kaalia player)

Blood moon is scary but I really do have a spot to put more basics because of my need for colors. Maybe the pain lands for 3 more basics
Dude Big G is on the official ban list, haha.
Title: Re: Kaalia
Post by: Mattacheu on December 04, 2014, 08:38:28 PM
XD sorry, was unaware. Haven't looked at the ban list, so mah apologies.
Title: Re: Kaalia
Post by: Kaalia with haste on December 04, 2014, 08:39:56 PM
Quote from: Mattacheu on December 04, 2014, 08:38:28 PM
XD sorry, was unaware. Haven't looked at the ban list, so mah apologies.
Lol no problem dude
Title: Re: Kaalia
Post by: Prplprince on December 04, 2014, 09:10:48 PM
Don't the French rules have in legal in 1v1. At least that's what I heard
Title: Re: Kaalia
Post by: Prplprince on December 04, 2014, 09:13:28 PM
Quote from: JordanCirk on December 04, 2014, 07:19:55 PM
Quote from: Prplprince on December 04, 2014, 12:38:17 PM
I'm liking dragon Mage and necro. Basandra is just because a lot of my friends do combat tricks. Tal is in because I have a love affair with him lol.

Griz is banned in my play group so I don't use him to keep it social (says the kaalia player)

Blood moon is scary but I really do have a spot to put more basics because of my need for colors. Maybe the pain lands for 3 more basics
Honestly you should run blood moon yourself? You have quite a few mana rocks, and going t2-3 Kaalia into blood moon and just start dropping demons and angels and dragons sounds pretty good to me.

I agree I have a lot of rocks but that maybe the last thing I want to do. Blood moon hurts me a lot more then opponents. If you blow up two of my mana rocks and all of a sudden I have only mountains. On top of that I would have to drop something and so far it's hard to find a spot for  {Dragon Mage}

Edit: I dropped  {Malfegor} for dragon Mage
Title: Re: Kaalia
Post by: Kaalia with haste on December 04, 2014, 09:31:08 PM
Quote from: Prplprince on December 04, 2014, 09:10:48 PM
Don't the French rules have in legal in 1v1. At least that's what I heard
Yea French has it legal. He's played as a control general sometimes.
Title: Re: Kaalia
Post by: Prplprince on December 04, 2014, 11:09:28 PM
God yes control loves him. Refill my hand with more gas in trade for something I have abundance of. When I built my first kaalia deck he was a top pick in my head with everything positive but that deck was already not fun to play against so I toned it down a notch.
Title: Re: Kaalia
Post by: Prplprince on December 05, 2014, 02:02:59 AM
Did a few play tests today and man the deck is better then before. One game had kaalia turn two haste but was ruined by a lucky Swords
Title: Re: Kaalia
Post by: Oldmanomis on December 05, 2014, 07:10:09 AM
Man If you can get kaalia out turn two then Armageddon turn three or four... Most people will concede!
Title: Re: Kaalia
Post by: Prplprince on December 05, 2014, 01:26:57 PM
A turn two or three kaalia swinging in and then you get a cheated 6 or 7 Cmc angel demon or dragon is pain to the face. Now granted if I drop Iona or avacyn it's an auto concede but even cheating a thundermaw hurts
Title: Re: Kaalia
Post by: Gorzo on December 05, 2014, 02:09:47 PM
{Whispersilk Cloak} is really good for Kaalia. Shroud to protect her and unblockable to keep her attacking even when your opponents have flying or reach is exactly what you want in a card.
Title: Re: Kaalia
Post by: Prplprince on December 05, 2014, 02:41:22 PM
Quote from: Gorzo on December 05, 2014, 02:09:47 PM
{Whispersilk Cloak} is really good for Kaalia. Shroud to protect her and unblockable to keep her attacking even when your opponents have flying or reach is exactly what you want in a card.


That is true. I guess the problem arises of what to cut. Another problem is the mana cost is a bit high but that can we worked around

Edit: I'm considering cutting a land or two. Maybe i can fit it in that way. It's a fine line though so I'm not sure yet
Title: Re: Kaalia
Post by: Gorzo on December 06, 2014, 03:34:09 AM
You're at 38 land now? You can probably get away with cutting one or two lands. I wouldn't go below 36 in a 3-color deck, but try doing some sample drawing with one or two less land and see how it treats you.