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Magic (The Gathering) => Rules => Topic started by: Maxpayne03 on December 01, 2014, 08:42:26 PM

Title: Delve
Post by: Maxpayne03 on December 01, 2014, 08:42:26 PM
If i flashback a spell with delve, can I pay the cost by removing cards in my graveyard?
Title: Re: Delve
Post by: Remillo on December 01, 2014, 08:44:56 PM
Of course.  Delve doesn't care where you cast the spell from, as long as you're casting the spell.
Title: Re: Delve
Post by: Cender on December 01, 2014, 10:01:55 PM
The key is in the wording of Delve (example {Become Immense}) "Each card you exile from your graveyard when casting this spell pays for {1}"

This means that the act of Delving to pay for the mana cost of the spell is not an alternate cost (something you can't do when you flashback {Force of Will}), but is built into the casting cost itself.
Title: Re: Delve
Post by: Remillo on December 02, 2014, 12:02:21 AM
Quote from: Cender on December 01, 2014, 10:01:55 PM
The key is in the wording of Delve (example {Become Immense}) "Each card you exile from your graveyard when casting this spell pays for {1}"

This means that the act of Delving to pay for the mana cost of the spell is not an alternate cost (something you can't do when you flashback {Force of Will}), but is built into the casting cost itself.

Well, even under Delve's old wording, it wasn't an alternative cost.  It was just a method of cost reduction, which also works just fine with Flashback.
Title: Re: Delve
Post by: Cender on December 02, 2014, 08:31:10 AM
Quote from: Remillo on December 02, 2014, 12:02:21 AM

Well, even under Delve's old wording, it wasn't an alternative cost.  It was just a method of cost reduction, which also works just fine with Flashback.

Fair enough. I was more trying to show the distinction between alternate casting costs and the way Delve operates.