my opponent played "Grimgrin, Corpse-Borne" and immediately sacrifices a creature to put a +1/+1 counter and states at his untap step he will b able to do so because he sacrificed a creature immediately. Is this legit? Doesn't he have to sacrifice his creature at time of his untap step?
{Grim-Grin, Corpse Born}
So, are you asking if he can sacrifice the creature? If so, yes. The sacrifice is an activated ability, so he can activate it at any time once Grim resolves and use it as if it were an instant. He can do it 500 times once he plays it if he had the creatures to do so, he can even do it on your turn.
The main question is if he will be able to untap Grimgrin at his next untap step once he's been played.
Basically once grim resolves your opponent can sac a creature and untap grim. He can't attack with him the turn he comes into play.. But he can be untapped. Nothing stops him from untapping him once the creature is sacrificed. he can sac a creature to untap anytime he has priority.
and he doesnt wven have to wait till his untap step. as soon as he sacrifices the creature, the {Grimgrin, Corpse-Born} becomes untapped and gets a +1/+1 counter
Quote from: Avnger345 on November 29, 2014, 07:35:35 PM
Basically once grim resolves your opponent can sac a creature and untap grim. He can't attack with him the turn he comes into play.. But he can be untapped. Nothing stops him from untapping him once the creature is sacrificed. If he targets a creature to sac and it's on the stack and you get rid of creature that's being sacrificed before it resolves , grim doesn't untap. But he can sac a creature to untap anytime he has priority.
You don't target a creature to sacrifice for his ability. This is part of the cost and cannot be responded to. If I choose to sacrifice my {reassembling skeleton} to grim grim, you cannot respond by {shock}ing my skeleton.
Yeah oops. Going to edit. Skimmed the oracle. It was talking about last ability. Won't get a+ 1/+1 counter if you get rid for the creature he targets to destroy
Quote from: Avnger345 on November 29, 2014, 08:30:47 PM
Yeah oops. Going to edit. Skimmed the oracle. It was talking about last ability. Won't get a+ 1/+1 counter if you get rid for the creature he targets to destroy
Yea this is correct. If grim grim attacks, and your opponent controls no creatures, he won't get a counter. Similarly, if the creature grim grim targets leaves the field before the ability resolves, he won't get a counter.
9/22/2011 If the targeted creature is an illegal target by the time Grimgrin's last ability resolves, the entire ability is countered and none of its effects will occur. You won't put a +1/+1 counter on Grimgrin.
9/22/2011 If the defending player controls no creatures when Grimgrin attacks, the last ability will be removed from the stack and have no effect.
7/1/2013 If Grimgrin's last ability resolves, but the targeted creature isn't destroyed (perhaps because it regenerated or has indestructible), you'll still put a +1/+1 on Grimgrin.
Quote from: Ulyses317 on November 29, 2014, 07:25:25 PM
my opponent played "Grimgrin, Corpse-Borne" and immediately sacrifices a creature to put a +1/+1 counter and states at his untap step he will b able to do so because he sacrificed a creature immediately. Is this legit? Doesn't he have to sacrifice his creature at time of his untap step?
Just for the record, Grimgrin can never untap during the untap step. No matter what happened in the previous turns, he will always have the text "does not untap during the untap step." in addition, no player receives priority to activate instants or abilities during the untap step, so you wouldn't even be able to use his sacrifice-untap ability during the untap step. You can do it at instant speed any time you have priority, even the upkeep immediately after, just not in the untap step itself.
Also, if you're asking if using his untap ability removes his "doesn't untap" text, the answer is no.
Just covering some bases :)