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Decks (Magic The Gathering) => Commander => Topic started by: Yawgmoth85 on November 23, 2014, 01:48:41 PM

Title: Tweaks for scrap
Post by: Yawgmoth85 on November 23, 2014, 01:48:41 PM
So for my first purchases of the new 2014 commander set release I decided on going for Built From Scratch. Choosing {Daretti, Scrap Savant} as the commander. The deck seems pretty synergetic but I noticed a few cuts to make and was wonderin on some good artifact ideas to go with the flow of the deck. Any and all ideas welcome, any one out there also pick up this deck notice any weakness's/strengths to focus on in the deck?
Title: Re: Tweaks for scrap
Post by: Codester1991 on November 23, 2014, 02:23:49 PM
Idk if scuttledoom engine is there but he seems as though he'd run well with your commander
Title: Re: Tweaks for scrap
Post by: Gorzo on November 23, 2014, 04:13:37 PM
{Scuttling doom engine} is definitely a great add. {Hellkite Tyrant} comes to mind, too

After playing against the Dereti deck a few times now,  I have to say the most annoying thing the deck can do is abuse {Spine of Ish Sah}. If you can add anything to get that spine out and the abuse rolling,  do it. Even {Journeyer's Kite} to flood yourself with mana so you can say and cast the spine more than once per turn isn't bad. {Caged Sun} helps a ton with that, too, but I can't remember if that's included in the deck or needs to be added.
Title: Re: Tweaks for scrap
Post by: DimirOverlord1300 on November 23, 2014, 05:07:10 PM
{Mycosynth Lattice} and {Hellkite Tyrant}
Or {Mycosynth Lattice} plus {Darksteel Forge} plus {Nevinyyreoalncjejs Disk}
Title: Re: Tweaks for scrap
Post by: Munchlax on November 23, 2014, 07:28:02 PM
Instead of dereti, maybe play red blue Artifacts. I saw a guy go {Goblin Welder}, {intruder Alarm} {Scuttling Doom Engine} and {Wirmcoil Engine} for infinite things
Title: Re: Tweaks for scrap
Post by: JordanCirk on November 23, 2014, 08:55:59 PM
 {Burnished Hart} is great for ramp
Title: Re: Tweaks for scrap
Post by: Yawgmoth85 on November 24, 2014, 06:36:08 PM
Quote from: Gorzo on November 23, 2014, 04:13:37 PM
{Scuttling doom engine} is definitely a great add. {Hellkite Tyrant} comes to mind, too

After playing against the Dereti deck a few times now,  I have to say the most annoying thing the deck can do is abuse {Spine of Ish Sah}. If you can add anything to get that spine out and the abuse rolling,  do it. Even {Journeyer's Kite} to flood yourself with mana so you can say and cast the spine more than once per turn isn't bad. {Caged Sun} helps a ton with that, too, but I can't remember if that's included in the deck or needs to be added.

What weak points have u discovered in battle against the deck, my meta usually does 1-1 with scattered available multiplayer games available
Title: Re: Tweaks for scrap
Post by: Gorzo on November 24, 2014, 11:43:28 PM
A few things will stop a Dereti deck in a hurry.

1) a Hellkite Tyrant of your own. Take those artifacts away,  and the deck can't abuse them with sac/bring back.

2) Similarly,  anything that exiles artifacts/permanents

3) Protection from red. Almost all of Dereti's removal is damage-based red spells like {Starstorm} and {Blasphemous Act}. Unless he gets the spine of Ish Sah crao going, pro red is going to pose a huge problem, even a simple {Kor Firewalker} will be a real nuisance.

4) good old {Vandalblast}. It won't stop anything,  since the deck pulls artifacts out of the grave pretty easily, but high impact artifact hate at least slows it down.
Title: Re: Tweaks for scrap
Post by: MarduArrow on November 25, 2014, 03:09:24 AM
Definitely needs a  {Hellkite Tyrant}, I was disappointed when he wasn't on the decklist he fit so well
Title: Re: Tweaks for scrap
Post by: DrainCleaner on November 25, 2014, 03:20:22 AM
Now that {metalworker} is unbanned, this seems like the deck for it if its within budget