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Magic (The Gathering) => Rules => Topic started by: Yawgmoth85 on November 22, 2014, 10:04:19 PM

Title: Feldon+Sundial
Post by: Yawgmoth85 on November 22, 2014, 10:04:19 PM
With {Feldon of the third path}+{sundial of the infinite} would the token be kept in play on not sacraficed at end of turn?
Title: Re: Feldon+Sundial
Post by: DrainCleaner on November 22, 2014, 11:20:31 PM
Quote from: Yawgmoth85 on November 22, 2014, 10:04:19 PM
With {Feldon of the third path}+{sundial of the infinite} would the token be kept in play on not sacraficed at end of turn?
You would actually sacrifice the token at your opponent's end step because its the "next" end step. You'll keep it until the end of the next turn. Unless time stop or sundial happens again making it carry over yet another turn.
Title: Re: Feldon+Sundial
Post by: Remillo on November 23, 2014, 02:39:55 AM
Because it specifies 'next end step', it'll only trigger once: at the beginning of the next end step to happen.  If you stop the turn before the end step, that end step doesn't happen, so it triggers on the next turn's.  However, if you move to the end step, let the sacrifice trigger go on the stack, and THEN stop the turn...  You're in business.  Ending the turn includes exiling all objects on the stack, including the sacrifice trigger.  Because that 'next end step' has already happened, the sac trigger will never trigger again, leaving you with your token copy.  This is also how it works with {Roon of the Hidden Realm}, or stifling one of these delay triggers.
Title: Re: Feldon+Sundial
Post by: DrainCleaner on November 23, 2014, 11:32:35 AM
Quote from: Remillo on November 23, 2014, 02:39:55 AM
Because it specifies 'next end step', it'll only trigger once: at the beginning of the next end step to happen.  If you stop the turn before the end step, that end step doesn't happen, so it triggers on the next turn's.  However, if you move to the end step, let the sacrifice trigger go on the stack, and THEN stop the turn...  You're in business.  Ending the turn includes exiling all objects on the stack, including the sacrifice trigger.  Because that 'next end step' has already happened, the sac trigger will never trigger again, leaving you with your token copy.  This is also how it works with {Roon of the Hidden Realm}, or stifling one of these delay triggers.
Oh yea i forgot about that.