Is there gunna be one? Last year was fun!
You betcha! I'll make the thread after thanksgiving. Too much earlier seems treasonous!
The real Thanksgiving was last month though ... Lol
#CanadianPride
#TronStillSux
Quote from: Mattao19 on November 19, 2014, 10:39:10 PM
The real Thanksgiving was last month though ... Lol
#CanadianPride
#TronStillSux
#MuricaGetsEverythingWrong
#ButTronStillSux
One big happy family of hating out taysby :P
Lol, Taysby is probably lurking around this thread silently regretting the choice of ever suing tron...
Anyways, I wasn't here last year. How does this whole "iMtG secret Santa thing" work?
Quote from: Popper23345 on November 19, 2014, 11:11:51 PM
Lol, Taysby is probably lurking around this thread silently regretting the choice of ever suing tron...
Anyways, I wasn't here last year. How does this whole "iMtG secret Santa thing" work?
Basically, people sent each other approximately $10 in Magic cards.
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on November 19, 2014, 11:12:53 PM
Quote from: Popper23345 on November 19, 2014, 11:11:51 PM
Lol, Taysby is probably lurking around this thread silently regretting the choice of ever suing tron...
Anyways, I wasn't here last year. How does this whole "iMtG secret Santa thing" work?
Basically, people sent each other approximately $10 in Magic cards.
Or more. I'll probably send my guy/gal more, just for funsies!
Quote from: Taysby on November 20, 2014, 12:19:06 AM
Actually, I was just at work. You all just can't handle tron.
I never got my end from nightwolf last year. He claimed that it got lost in the mail. twice.
And conan got a set of the p9 from me.
Lol sure a set of p9 lol what's that code for pathetic 9 rares? Lol jk
#gottalovesowingsalt
Everyone who participates should use tracking. No question about it.
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on November 20, 2014, 02:30:30 AM
Everyone who participates should use tracking. No question about it.
This. So much this.
There were a few issues last time of people not sending. I'm not sure what can be done to prevent it. Any ideas?
Quote from: Gorzo on November 20, 2014, 04:18:21 AM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on November 20, 2014, 02:30:30 AM
Everyone who participates should use tracking. No question about it.
This. So much this.
There were a few issues last time of people not sending. I'm not sure what can be done to prevent it. Any ideas?
You could always put an entry requirement of a specific number of trusted trader references. That would put the entry barrier at people who specifically care about their standing in the iMTG community.
I don't think you can ever remove the uncertainty of an untrustworthy person becoming involved, but you can minimize the risk.
Quote from: Taysby on November 20, 2014, 12:19:06 AM
Actually, I was just at work. You all just can't handle tron.
I never got my end from nightwolf last year. He claimed that it got lost in the mail. twice.
And conan got a set of the p9 from me.
Wait Taysby you don't actually mean the power 9 right? Or maybe you do idk.
Quote from: Cender on November 20, 2014, 06:57:04 AM
Quote from: Gorzo on November 20, 2014, 04:18:21 AM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on November 20, 2014, 02:30:30 AM
Everyone who participates should use tracking. No question about it.
This. So much this.
There were a few issues last time of people not sending. I'm not sure what can be done to prevent it. Any ideas?
You could always put an entry requirement of a specific number of trusted trader references. That would put the entry barrier at people who specifically care about their standing in the iMTG community.
I don't think you can ever remove the uncertainty of an untrustworthy person becoming involved, but you can minimize the risk.
I don't think we should do a certain amount trusted traders reference, because I have only had 1 completed trade (one in process) but that's just because I don't trade much :/
Quote from: GlowackAttack on November 20, 2014, 09:13:53 AM
I have no problem with doing a secret santa deal, I would like to instill some sort of limitation however,or at least have mandatory tracking... I wouldn't wanna see any problems arising from people getting ripped off.
Poor taysby.. a freaking p9 piece? What are you made of? Does your body produce gold?
Taysby was joking lol and idk I hate to be that guy but mandatory tracking seems bad like that'll cost more than the gift. I've done a few trades and I've always gotten good feedback I send asap and am trusted so I don't see why I'd need to dish out an extra $10 (I know seems like a small amount but adds up for a college kid)
Last year you had to have at least 10 karma. I vote we keep that in place, along with at least 3 trades.
Quote from: Mattao19 on November 20, 2014, 09:43:02 AM
Quote from: GlowackAttack on November 20, 2014, 09:13:53 AM
I have no problem with doing a secret santa deal, I would like to instill some sort of limitation however,or at least have mandatory tracking... I wouldn't wanna see any problems arising from people getting ripped off.
Poor taysby.. a freaking p9 piece? What are you made of? Does your body produce gold?
Taysby was joking lol and idk I hate to be that guy but mandatory tracking seems bad like that'll cost more than the gift. I've done a few trades and I've always gotten good feedback I send asap and am trusted so I don't see why I'd need to dish out an extra $10 (I know seems like a small amount but adds up for a college kid)
Is that because you're shipping internationally that tracking costs so much?
Quote from: Popper23345 on November 20, 2014, 07:30:40 AM
Quote from: Cender on November 20, 2014, 06:57:04 AM
Quote from: Gorzo on November 20, 2014, 04:18:21 AM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on November 20, 2014, 02:30:30 AM
Everyone who participates should use tracking. No question about it.
This. So much this.
There were a few issues last time of people not sending. I'm not sure what can be done to prevent it. Any ideas?
You could always put an entry requirement of a specific number of trusted trader references. That would put the entry barrier at people who specifically care about their standing in the iMTG community.
I don't think you can ever remove the uncertainty of an untrustworthy person becoming involved, but you can minimize the risk.
I don't think we should do a certain amount trusted traders reference, because I have only had 1 completed trade (one in process) but that's just because I don't trade much :/
Keep in mind as I make that suggestion, I actually would not likely fit the prerequisite, as I only have two in process trades.
You have to put yourself in the position of someone taking the risk of involving someone without a reputation. That person walks away with $10+ cards for free with little recourse for those involved.
Quote from: Noblellama on November 20, 2014, 10:20:17 AM
We vote a (very) trustworthy (probably mod) to be the recipient of all packages (pre-labeled in a second unsealed inner envelope) so that they may use a checklist to ensure everyone:
A) Sends
B) Sends more than the $ threshold
C) everything is on time (accumulates packages until ~Dec 15 then ships them all out)
That way said person checks off that person a and b both have sent their packages in as well as that said person then ships both packages out.
It is the best idea I've got though it puts all this in one persons lap pretty heavily...
That's an interesting concept. Although that person likely would have to be willing to incur extra shipping costs to reship. (Unless that inner envelope has postage prepaid?)
Quote from: Noblellama on November 20, 2014, 10:20:17 AM
We vote a (very) trustworthy (probably mod) to be the recipient of all packages (pre-labeled in a second unsealed inner envelope) so that they may use a checklist to ensure everyone:
A) Sends
B) Sends more than the $ threshold
C) everything is on time (accumulates packages until ~Dec 15 then ships them all out)
That way said person checks off that person a and b both have sent their packages in as well as that said person then ships both packages out.
It is the best idea I've got though it puts all this in one persons lap pretty heavily...
I could do that. As long as everyone puts extra postage in the envelope :P
With that case tracking wouldn't be needed I'd a mod received it, tracking would only needed to be sent to the mod.
To keep it in a timely fashion, we could do "everything will be sent from mod at x date" and everything not received by then, the person will get an alter coupon. This ensures everybody gets something by the correct date.
Quote from: Mattao19 on November 20, 2014, 09:43:02 AM
Quote from: GlowackAttack on November 20, 2014, 09:13:53 AM
I have no problem with doing a secret santa deal, I would like to instill some sort of limitation however,or at least have mandatory tracking... I wouldn't wanna see any problems arising from people getting ripped off.
Poor taysby.. a freaking p9 piece? What are you made of? Does your body produce gold?
Taysby was joking lol and idk I hate to be that guy but mandatory tracking seems bad like that'll cost more than the gift. I've done a few trades and I've always gotten good feedback I send asap and am trusted so I don't see why I'd need to dish out an extra $10 (I know seems like a small amount but adds up for a college kid)
tracking costs you ten dollhairs? thats pretty crazy its normally a dollar on my packages.
I'm Canadian and US Tracking is $13.95 extra last time I checked :( but I have yet to have a bad trade from my end :( also Nobles idea is good but only if said mod is really willing to do all that extra work
Ha I remember this I got a Purphoros pack last year. I'm in.
Well tracking or its on you to make sure it arrives and people don't feel Left out of it doesn't because you didn't track it.
Hopefully if there are several Canucks, we can keep regions separate for shipping ease.
Otherwise it will be mixed up
I literally had to look back on what I sent last year
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on November 20, 2014, 01:23:16 PM
Well tracking or its on you to make sure it arrives and people don't feel Left out of it doesn't because you didn't track it.
Hopefully if there are several Canucks, we can keep regions separate for shipping ease.
Otherwise it will be mixed up
Agreed. I don't think we'd need more than 4-5 for US though. I can be one, and you could be another if you like? I dunno.
Quote from: Thetrufflehunter on November 20, 2014, 09:53:13 AM
Last year you had to have at least 10 karma. I vote we keep that in place, along with at least 3 trades.
So, does this mean that I need to make one more trade before I can participate?
Quote from: Popper23345 on November 20, 2014, 04:58:23 PM
Quote from: Thetrufflehunter on November 20, 2014, 09:53:13 AM
Last year you had to have at least 10 karma. I vote we keep that in place, along with at least 3 trades.
So, does this mean that I need to make one more trade before I can participate?
Yes, but you have a week or 2.
Are you counting our current trade?
Damn the 3 trade rule, I only have 2. Anyone want to blast out a trade real quick? Any leniency for 2 clean trades and being stuck at 78 karma for months?
Quote from: Wingnut on November 20, 2014, 05:57:00 PM
Damn the 3 trade rule, I only have 2. Anyone want to blast out a trade real quick? Any leniency for 2 clean trades and being stuck at 78 karma for months?
I'd give you a pass. It's just to keep out really new people who haven't "proven" themselves.
Quote from: Thetrufflehunter on November 20, 2014, 06:31:09 PM
Quote from: Wingnut on November 20, 2014, 05:57:00 PM
Damn the 3 trade rule, I only have 2. Anyone want to blast out a trade real quick? Any leniency for 2 clean trades and being stuck at 78 karma for months?
I'd give you a pass. It's just to keep out really new people who haven't "proven" themselves.
Sweet, cause I was looking forward to sending valuable property to some random stranger in the hopes that some other random stranger follows through with the same thing. Let me know, I'm in.
im also in!
Quote from: Thetrufflehunter on November 20, 2014, 05:02:57 PM
Quote from: Popper23345 on November 20, 2014, 04:58:23 PM
Quote from: Thetrufflehunter on November 20, 2014, 09:53:13 AM
Last year you had to have at least 10 karma. I vote we keep that in place, along with at least 3 trades.
So, does this mean that I need to make one more trade before I can participate?
Yes, but you have a week or 2.
Are you counting our current trade?
Yea, that's the one in progress. I could set up one more trade probably. I'll post what I have available probably tommorow after school.
I'm down
I dont want to participate, as I am in australia and it would just be a pain for whoever gets me. But I would like to point out that a minimum of 3 trades requirement may not be the best idea. Just as an example, I have had exactly 3 trades, but no one has bothered to add me to their trusted traders list. So for all intents and purposes I have had zero trades and wouldn't be allowed to participate. Also, I have also bought cards from people and added them to my trusted traders list. Would those count as successful trades? I just think things need to be clearly defined so it doesnt end up in tears.
I would love to do this but i have never traded on here, looks like i am out. Oh well, maybe next year have a merry chrismas everyone.
As a fellow participant last year AND someone who recievee their gift late (February late), I feel that the previous rules of 3+ trusted trades to participate was fair last year. With everyone worried about fixing some issues that happened last year I propose this:
15+ trusted trades according to arbitrator's list does not require tracking.
3-15 trusted trades requires tracking to be kept by a mod or whoever feels obligated to run the event this year.
<3 cannot participate. I feel this will keep issues from arising with people nobody knows possibly getting a great gift but not sending out.
i just have a little suggestion on checking Arbis list since it hasnt been updated lately. I show only 2 trades there but have done almost 30. maybe theres another way to check for that so that no one gets screwed out of playing due to the list not being too current? Im not going to participate this year (hopefully next) but maybe this helps someone that wants to and cant because of the list not being current.
I'm close friends with DimirOverlord and Hexproof_is_the_best_mechanic irl, and have traded with both lolrus and Infinitive divinity. So I'm not sure if I currently meet the requirements, but I have people that can vouch for me.
Truffle just received my end of the trade we are currently in,
If that means anything...
Quote from: Popper23345 on November 23, 2014, 10:32:31 AM
Truffle just received my end of the trade we are currently in,
If that means anything...
I can vouch for him, but please try to make a trade in the next few days!
Quote from: Thetrufflehunter on November 23, 2014, 10:34:18 AM
Quote from: Popper23345 on November 23, 2014, 10:32:31 AM
Truffle just received my end of the trade we are currently in,
If that means anything...
I can vouch for him, but please try to make a trade in the next few days!
K, I will post in the trade section about some stuff that I have, and then hopefully send out a trade by Mon. (If all goes well)
Edit: posted in trade section :D
I'm in
Ok let's get this moving!
Dec 15th is the send by date
Last year we had average value of $5 per gift
Lets step it up to $10 minimum value, $15 max.
No junk rares, actual value, please read people's needs or get creative. It doesn't have to be a card!
Truffle created the thread last year and I think it worked out pretty well, with the exception of some flakes.
For sending: Tracking tracking tracking. I am really strongly for this due to people sending multiple times etc. just save the bullshit for tracking. Easier that way.
Gonna sticky this to the top of misc discuss
Also: flake on this as a participant and you will be a non trusted trader. Don't participate if you plan to send your item in February.
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on November 25, 2014, 05:23:53 PM
Ok let's get this moving!
Dec 15th is the send by date
Last year we had average value of $5 per gift
Lets step it up to $10 minimum value, $15 max.
No junk rares, actual value, please read people's needs or get creative. It doesn't have to be a card!
Truffle created the thread last year and I think it worked out pretty well, with the exception of some flakes.
For sending: Tracking tracking tracking. I am really strongly for this due to people sending multiple times etc. just save the bullshit for tracking. Easier that way.
Gonna sticky this to the top of misc discuss
Also: flake on this as a participant and you will be a non trusted trader. Don't participate if you plan to send your item in February.
Sounds good, but no max. If you want to send power, send power :P
Well it's on you if you send P9 don't expect anything like that back :=P
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on November 25, 2014, 05:28:21 PM
Well it's on you if you send P9 don't expect anything like that back :=P
Exactly! Most people will send $10 worth of stuff, but feel free to be kind!
Sign me up
I'm in, now what to send? Just waiting for the who and where.
To late to sign up?
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on November 25, 2014, 10:47:53 PM
To late to sign up?
I don't think anyone is signed up yet. I would recommended truffle to start a new one so he can edit the first page with the people signed up all the rules and end date. This was his baby. It would get stickied and this one dropped.
I would rather just send to the person directly
Direct shipping with tracking
Your item gets lost cuz u don't track, it's on you to fulfill the exchange, otherwise you will be moved to untrusted trader.
It's just not fair for those who actually send their ends out on time.
Please don't sign up for this if you can't fulfill this.
Ill make a new thread for signing up.
Sign ups close November 30th 11:59 PM PST
Exchange info will be given out by the 4th
Send out by the Monday December 15th
Send $10 avg value minimum. Not bulk repacks either :p
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