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Title: Let's Experiment 4.0
Post by: theravenseye on November 17, 2014, 09:38:39 AM
Let's Experiment 4.0

60 cards, 15 sideboard


2 {Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx}
20 {Swamp}

22 lands


4 {Bloodsoaked Champion}
4 {Gray Merchant of Asphodel}
4 {Brain Maggot}
4 {Master of the Feast}
4 {Herald of Torment}

20 creatures


2 {Despise}
2 {Sign in Blood}
2 {Whip of Erebos}
2 {Hall of Triumph}
1 {Empty the Pits}
4 {Murderous Cut}
4 {Hero's Downfall}
1 {Liliana Vess}

18 other spells


Sideboard

2 {Sign in Blood}
2 {Stain the Mind}
1 {Whip of Erebos}
2 {Hall of Triumph}
3 {Bile Blight}
2 {Silence the Believers}
2 {Drown in Sorrow}
1 {Liliana Vess}

15 sideboard cards



Notes:
Do you guys think that a deck like this could hold in the standard environment today?
Title: Re: Let's Experiment 4.0
Post by: BaBa BLaCkSHeeT on November 17, 2014, 10:55:27 AM
Instead of making new threads if you update your current deck list and reshare it'll update your previous post.

That aside I don't believe this deck needs four cuts as you don't send many things to the graveyard to safely delve without exiling creatures in the process negating your whip potential later or your blood soaked champions.

I would invest 2 of your cuts and open another few slots for some two drops whether that's sign in blood for more draw or some creatures to up your devotion count for gray merchant.

With the uprise of maradu leaving one creature on the field can prove disastrous. Not a huge fan of herald of torment as many decka run lightning bolt. Feel master of feast is decent in the current meta left unanswered he can quickly finish out a game.
Title: Re: Let's Experiment 4.0
Post by: Mattao19 on November 17, 2014, 11:57:50 AM
In this deck I'd go -2 Cuts -2 Despise +4 {Thoughtseize}

You want your creatures to stick and avoid removal. So despise is very meh whereas T Seize hits everything
Title: Re: Let's Experiment 4.0
Post by: IntoFire on November 17, 2014, 09:06:12 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on November 17, 2014, 11:57:50 AM
In this deck I'd go -2 Cuts -2 Despise +4 {Thoughtseize}

You want your creatures to stick and avoid removal. So despise is very meh whereas T Seize hits everything

Too poor for thoughtseize :(
Title: Re: Let's Experiment 4.0
Post by: MuggyWuggy on November 17, 2014, 09:45:14 PM
Quote from: IntoFire on November 17, 2014, 09:06:12 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on November 17, 2014, 11:57:50 AM
In this deck I'd go -2 Cuts -2 Despise +4 {Thoughtseize}

You want your creatures to stick and avoid removal. So despise is very meh whereas T Seize hits everything

Too poor for thoughtseize :(

So you wanna figure out your trial ?
Title: Re: Let's Experiment 4.0
Post by: theravenseye on November 18, 2014, 05:45:07 AM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on November 17, 2014, 09:45:14 PM
Quote from: IntoFire on November 17, 2014, 09:06:12 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on November 17, 2014, 11:57:50 AM
In this deck I'd go -2 Cuts -2 Despise +4 {Thoughtseize}

You want your creatures to stick and avoid removal. So despise is very meh whereas T Seize hits everything

Too poor for thoughtseize :(

So you wanna figure out your trial ?

What's this about?
Title: Re: Let's Experiment 4.0
Post by: Mattao19 on November 18, 2014, 07:46:01 AM
Unrelated to this thread.

IntoFore is up for trial in the Trials section and has yet to answer. Muggy realizing he is back on the forum was trying to get him to reply to the trial (good eye Muggy :D)

But ya sorry to interrupt your post
Title: Re: Let's Experiment 4.0
Post by: theravenseye on November 18, 2014, 09:56:40 AM
Oh, well, like my mom says, "If it's not your problem, don't get involved."
Title: Re: Let's Experiment 4.0
Post by: theravenseye on November 19, 2014, 05:44:10 AM
Quote from: donnie355 on November 18, 2014, 09:57:27 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on November 17, 2014, 11:57:50 AM
In this deck I'd go -2 Cuts -2 Despise +4 {Thoughtseize}

You want your creatures to stick and avoid removal. So despise is very meh whereas T Seize hits everything

He's on a budget. I would just run {Despise} in side for controlish decks.

So what would you suggest as replacement for {Despise}?
Title: Re: Let's Experiment 4.0
Post by: theravenseye on November 19, 2014, 10:38:09 AM
Tested the deck today. Oh my god. It did what it was supposed to do, although, I do see myself adding the two {Stain the Mind} more that {Despise} since my meta is Abzan Midrange, Rabble Red,Jeskai Combo, Sultai Ramp and Temur Tempo. I almkst always remove the Rabbles, can remove 2-3 {Seige Rhino}s, almost all the {Jeskai Ascendancies},2 {Courser of Kruphix} or {Sylvan Caryatid} and {Sarkhan, the Dragonspeaker} in most games. The deck rocks. I once drained my opponnent for 16 in one turn casting a Gray Merchant and then whipping back another from the grave.
Title: Re: Let's Experiment 4.0
Post by: Popper23345 on November 19, 2014, 11:42:58 PM
Quote from: donnie355 on November 19, 2014, 11:46:30 AM
Quote from: theravenseye on November 19, 2014, 05:44:10 AM
Quote from: donnie355 on November 18, 2014, 09:57:27 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on November 17, 2014, 11:57:50 AM
In this deck I'd go -2 Cuts -2 Despise +4 {Thoughtseize}

You want your creatures to stick and avoid removal. So despise is very meh whereas T Seize hits everything

He's on a budget. I would just run {Despise} in side for controlish decks.

So what would you suggest as replacement for {Despise}?

Hall of something. The name a color +1/+1. 2 of them.
{Hall of Triumph}?
Title: Re: Let's Experiment 4.0
Post by: Foreplay0333 on November 20, 2014, 09:09:21 AM
I'd add in 4x  {Spiteful Returned}