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Title: Infinite 3/3 golems
Post by: Kaylesh on November 15, 2014, 11:16:20 AM
Stumbled across this one while meta-ing the time away with my box of commons.
Have {golem foundry} and {midnight guard} on the field. Play {ornithopter} and {retraction helix} on guard. Return ornithopter, recast, repeat 300M times for 100M possible golems. Greatest part is, you don't have to create them all at once unless someone decides to nuke your foundry. The counters will just sit there.
Could be pulled of T4 without ramp.
Title: Re: Infinite 3/3 golems
Post by: imFourth of Phils on November 15, 2014, 11:23:25 AM
Quote from: Kaylesh on November 15, 2014, 11:16:20 AM
Stumbled across this one while meta-ing the time away with my box of commons.
Have {golem foundry} and {midnight guard} on the field. Play {ornithopter} and {retraction helix} on guard. Return ornithopter, recast, repeat 300M times for 100M possible golems. Greatest part is, you don't have to create them all at once unless someone decides to nuke your foundry. The counters will just sit there.
Could be pulled of T4 without ramp.

wow
Title: Re: Infinite 3/3 golems
Post by: Kaylesh on November 15, 2014, 01:42:59 PM
I've put together a deck with this combo from cards I owned. Since I found a {psionic gift} and an {intruder alert} and some flicker artifacts as well, I decided to play on that combo too. I dunno how to link from phone, but it can be found in casual: Infinite Artificer.
Title: Re: Infinite 3/3 golems
Post by: Kaylesh on November 15, 2014, 01:45:00 PM
This oughta work :p sorry for spamming.
Quote from: Kaylesh on November 15, 2014, 01:39:43 PM

Infinite Artificer

61 cards, 0 sideboard


10 {Plains}
10 {Island}
1 {Glacial Fortress}
1 {Thalakos Lowlands}

22 lands


1 {Deft Duelist}
2 {Ornithopter}
1 {Merrow Witsniper}
1 {Hundred-Handed One}
1 {Archaeomancer}
3 {Peace Strider}
1 {Pierce Strider}
2 {Midnight Guard}
1 {Guiding Spirit}
4 {Esper Cormorants}

17 creatures


1 {Retraction Helix}
1 {Golem Foundry}
1 {Cursed Rack}
1 {Overrule}
4 {Moonglove Extract}
1 {Azorius Signet}
2 {Vanish into Memory}
1 {Erratic Portal}
1 {Golem's Heart}
1 {Conjurer's Closet}
1 {Tooth of Chiss-Goria}
1 {The Rack}
1 {Psionic Gift}
1 {Intruder Alarm}
2 {Fieldmist Borderpost}
1 {Offering to Asha}
1 {Black Vise}

22 other spells


Sideboard
Title: Re: Infinite 3/3 golems
Post by: AdamS on December 16, 2014, 11:28:44 PM
muc easier way to do it is  {Golem Foundry}and they trigger themselves infinitely you just need something else to stop the combo like a return to hand or destroy artifacts otherwise it just keeps going and game ends in a draw
Title: Re: Infinite 3/3 golems
Post by: Kaylesh on December 17, 2014, 02:39:21 AM
Whenever you cast an artifact spell. So no infinite loop there for creating the golems. Even if it were etb, you would have to choose to create the golem, so no loop
Title: Re: Infinite 3/3 golems
Post by: Ebond on December 17, 2014, 12:50:16 PM
Quote from: Kaylesh on December 17, 2014, 02:39:21 AM
Whenever you cast an artifact spell. So no infinite loop there for creating the golems. Even if it were etb, you would have to choose to create the golem, so no loop

Not really, because the ornithopter is the artifact that you cast over and over again and why would you NOT choose to create the golems...
Title: Re: Infinite 3/3 golems
Post by: AdamS on December 17, 2014, 01:06:14 PM
ya i misread that
Title: Re: Infinite 3/3 golems
Post by: Kaylesh on December 19, 2014, 06:44:25 AM
Quote from: Ebond on December 17, 2014, 12:50:16 PM
Quote from: Kaylesh on December 17, 2014, 02:39:21 AM
Whenever you cast an artifact spell. So no infinite loop there for creating the golems. Even if it were etb, you would have to choose to create the golem, so no loop

Not really, because the ornithopter is the artifact that you cast over and over again and why would you NOT choose to create the golems...
Even if you would choose to be able to make a zillion golems and put them on the battlefield, the loop stops if you want it to. If ever you cannot stop the loop, the game is a draw.
A good reason to keep the golems as counters ( which you can make into golems at instant speed) would be a board wipe such as {wrath of god}
Title: Re: Infinite 3/3 golems
Post by: Kaylesh on December 19, 2014, 06:44:54 AM
Quote from: AdamS on December 17, 2014, 01:06:14 PM
ya i misread that
NP man, it happens.
Title: Re: Infinite 3/3 golems
Post by: Doofopoly on January 05, 2015, 02:04:07 PM
Quote from: Kaylesh on November 15, 2014, 01:45:00 PM
This oughta work :p sorry for spamming.
Quote from: Kaylesh on November 15, 2014, 01:39:43 PM

Infinite Artificer

61 cards, 0 sideboard


10 {Plains}
10 {Island}
1 {Glacial Fortress}
1 {Thalakos Lowlands}

22 lands


1 {Deft Duelist}
2 {Ornithopter}
1 {Merrow Witsniper}
1 {Hundred-Handed One}
1 {Archaeomancer}
3 {Peace Strider}
1 {Pierce Strider}
2 {Midnight Guard}
1 {Guiding Spirit}
4 {Esper Cormorants}

17 creatures


1 {Retraction Helix}
1 {Golem Foundry}
1 {Cursed Rack}
1 {Overrule}
4 {Moonglove Extract}
1 {Azorius Signet}
2 {Vanish into Memory}
1 {Erratic Portal}
1 {Golem's Heart}
1 {Conjurer's Closet}
1 {Tooth of Chiss-Goria}
1 {The Rack}
1 {Psionic Gift}
1 {Intruder Alarm}
2 {Fieldmist Borderpost}
1 {Offering to Asha}
1 {Black Vise}

22 other spells


Sideboard

Add {pennon blade}. If you don't have any I have one I might be willing to trade. Then you could splash for {fling} and skip any messy blocking.
Title: Re: Infinite 3/3 golems
Post by: Kaylesh on January 06, 2015, 09:03:32 AM
Quote from: Doofopoly
Add {pennon blade}. If you don't have any I have one I might be willing to trade. Then you could splash for {fling} and skip any messy blocking.
If you attack with over 7 beyond what they can block, blocking is not really an issue, lifegain decks not taken into account. Nevertheless, nice finisher.
Title: Re: Infinite 3/3 golems
Post by: Doofopoly on January 06, 2015, 10:09:36 AM
It's mostly just in case they have a {fog}. Or you could play a {momentous fall} on a Pennoned golem. :))
Title: Re: Infinite 3/3 golems
Post by: Esper on January 12, 2015, 01:23:36 AM
This is awesome! XD
Title: Re: Infinite 3/3 golems
Post by: Brawler_1337 on January 14, 2015, 02:48:19 AM
Quote from: Kaylesh on November 15, 2014, 11:16:20 AM
Stumbled across this one while meta-ing the time away with my box of commons.
Have {golem foundry} and {midnight guard} on the field. Play {ornithopter} and {retraction helix} on guard. Return ornithopter, recast, repeat 300M times for 100M possible golems. Greatest part is, you don't have to create them all at once unless someone decides to nuke your foundry. The counters will just sit there.
Could be pulled of T4 without ramp.
300M and 100M? Broski, you haven't lived until you've made Graham's number golems. And even then you're only starting to get into big enough numbers.
Title: Re: Infinite 3/3 golems
Post by: Kaylesh on January 14, 2015, 03:00:05 AM
Inserted random big number, just because you have to define a number as you shortcut, and even that is dodgy.  I love to triple-infinite the casts of Orni for infinite golems, which I could do in a casual setting, but not everyone could. Some people are real number crunchers when it comes to magic.