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Title: Bolas
Post by: Munchlax on November 13, 2014, 11:53:45 PM
So there's an idiot in magic club who thinks that Ugin is red and that Bolas will be making a huge appearance on Tarkir and killing all the dragons there.
Arguing with an idiot is like talking to a brick wall. I just need some sensible speculation on Ugin and bolas in fate reforged
Title: Re: Bolas
Post by: LinkCelestrial on November 14, 2014, 02:39:18 PM
Ugin is colorless, look at {Ghostfire} and {Ghostfire Blade}, so it's most likely that he'll be printed as a colorless walker. I don't /think/ Bolas would go kill all the dragons, but it's confirmed that Bolas killed Ugin. ({Bitter Revelation})
Title: Re: Bolas
Post by: Mattao19 on November 14, 2014, 08:59:24 PM
Quote from: Taysby on November 14, 2014, 07:49:56 PM
And he will cost 7 colorless mana!  Plz!

Lmfao!

And isn't Bolas supposed to be on Tarkir?
Title: Re: Bolas
Post by: Dudecore on November 14, 2014, 09:38:36 PM
Bolas is on Shandalar? I think that is where M13 took place? It's hard to tell sometimes. Either way, I don't think he's on Tarkir UNLESS it is in the past, then he should be on Tarkir fighting a colorless Ugin.
Title: Re: Bolas
Post by: Mattao19 on November 14, 2014, 09:43:09 PM
Ohhh k should've reworded my comment. He's on Tarkir in Fate reforged. (I think?)
Title: Re: Bolas
Post by: LinkCelestrial on November 15, 2014, 06:26:02 PM
Being as Sorin and Sarkhan are going to go save Ugin, who was killed by Bolas, it only makes sense that Bolas will make an appearance.
Title: Re: Bolas
Post by: Jbarn117 on November 17, 2014, 02:48:07 PM
Quote from: Munchlax on November 13, 2014, 11:53:45 PM
So there's an idiot in magic club who thinks that Ugin is red and that Bolas will be making a huge appearance on Tarkir and killing all the dragons there.
Arguing with an idiot is like talking to a brick wall. I just need some sensible speculation on Ugin and bolas in fate reforged

I'm not sure about Ugin, but I do know e is dead a pointless to argue about. Yes Bolas will come back; Sarkhan is going back in time to stop Nicol Bolas from killing the other Elder Dragons (which created MTG as we know it).
Title: Re: Bolas
Post by: cltrn81 on November 17, 2014, 02:51:35 PM
Jbarn-

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Still +1 cuz reasons
Well apparently I already +1 you today
Title: Re: Bolas
Post by: MuggyWuggy on November 17, 2014, 03:09:02 PM
In a game where reanimate and pull from eternity exist: anything is possible
Title: Re: Bolas
Post by: Jbarn117 on November 19, 2014, 02:03:26 PM
Quote from: Jbarn117 on November 17, 2014, 02:48:07 PM
Quote from: Munchlax on November 13, 2014, 11:53:45 PM
So there's an idiot in magic club who thinks that Ugin is red and that Bolas will be making a huge appearance on Tarkir and killing all the dragons there.
Arguing with an idiot is like talking to a brick wall. I just need some sensible speculation on Ugin and bolas in fate reforged

I'm not sure about Ugin, but I do know e is dead a pointless to argue about. Yes Bolas will come back; Sarkhan is going back in time to stop Nicol Bolas from killing the other Elder Dragons (which created MTG as we know it).

Ugin is colorless which is why he was able to combat the eldrazi.
Title: Re: Bolas
Post by: LinkCelestrial on November 21, 2014, 01:51:20 AM
Quote from: GlowackAttack on November 19, 2014, 02:18:02 PM
Quote from: Jbarn117 on November 19, 2014, 02:03:26 PM
Quote from: Jbarn117 on November 17, 2014, 02:48:07 PM
Quote from: Munchlax on November 13, 2014, 11:53:45 PM
So there's an idiot in magic club who thinks that Ugin is red and that Bolas will be making a huge appearance on Tarkir and killing all the dragons there.
Arguing with an idiot is like talking to a brick wall. I just need some sensible speculation on Ugin and bolas in fate reforged

I'm not sure about Ugin, but I do know e is dead a pointless to argue about. Yes Bolas will come back; Sarkhan is going back in time to stop Nicol Bolas from killing the other Elder Dragons (which created MTG as we know it).

Ugin is colorless which is why he was able to combat the eldrazi.
wasn't it because Ogin helped seal the eldrazi away that he is part of the storyline?

{Ghostfire} is one of the only effective weapons against Eldrazi. Part of my case for Chandra joining in on the Eldrazi stomping parade. I mean think about it for a moment. She can use {Ghostfire} (though I'm pretty sure she'd need the scroll back from Jace? I'm a bit rusty on that.) Why haven't Sorin and Sarkhan rung her up?
Title: Re: Bolas
Post by: Pi on November 24, 2014, 09:53:24 PM
Sit down son, its story time. (This can ask be found on the wizard's fiction section, uncharted realms)
The eldrazi were in the blind eternities, eating worlds at their leisure. Ugin worked with Nahiri, self-entitled guardian of Zendikar, and Sorin Markov, the seal away the eldrazi titans in a physical form. Nahiri made the hedrons all over Zendikar, and Ugin set the magic runes on them to trap the eldrazi.
Everything was going well for 3,000 years (or similar, you're welcome to check the exact number), until Bolas hatched a plan to release them. He made sure that Chandra found the Dragon Scroll, which revealed the location of the Eye of Ugin, the magical center of the hedrons. Jace, from his position in the infinite consortium, found out about Chandra having the scroll, and hunted her down. Sarkan Val, had been hearing the voice of Ugin in his head, ever since he left Tarkir. In his quest for a dragon to follow/obey, he planeswalked to grixis, and found Nicol Bolas. Bolas believes that Sarkan is insane, and sent him to the Eye of Ugin.
When Chandra made it to the Eye, she found Sarkan, in dragon form, and promptly began fighting with him. Jace intervened, and the power of the 3 planeswalker sparks, undid the work of Ugin, Sorin, and Nahiri, releasing the eldrazi.
Which brings us the Khans of Tarkir. Sorin has come back, looking for Ugin, only to find his bones. Sarkan has returned to his home world.
Title: Re: Bolas
Post by: rarehuntertay on November 25, 2014, 08:49:28 PM
Quote from: Pi on November 24, 2014, 09:53:24 PM
Sit down son, its story time. (This can ask be found on the wizard's fiction section, uncharted realms)
The eldrazi were in the blind eternities, eating worlds at their leisure. Ugin worked with Nahiri, self-entitled guardian of Zendikar, and Sorin Markov, the seal away the eldrazi titans in a physical form. Nahiri made the hedrons all over Zendikar, and Ugin set the magic runes on them to trap the eldrazi.
Everything was going well for 3,000 years (or similar, you're welcome to check the exact number), until Bolas hatched a plan to release them. He made sure that Chandra found the Dragon Scroll, which revealed the location of the Eye of Ugin, the magical center of the hedrons. Jace, from his position in the infinite consortium, found out about Chandra having the scroll, and hunted her down. Sarkan Val, had been hearing the voice of Ugin in his head, ever since he left Tarkir. In his quest for a dragon to follow/obey, he planeswalked to grixis, and found Nicol Bolas. Bolas believes that Sarkan is insane, and sent him to the Eye of Ugin.
When Chandra made it to the Eye, she found Sarkan, in dragon form, and promptly began fighting with him. Jace intervened, and the power of the 3 planeswalker sparks, undid the work of Ugin, Sorin, and Nahiri, releasing the eldrazi.
Which brings us the Khans of Tarkir. Sorin has come back, looking for Ugin, only to find his bones. Sarkan has returned to his home world.
Whoa! Never thought of that way. So you're saying that KTK takes place before the  Eldrazi were released back into the multiverse?
Title: Re: Bolas
Post by: Avnger345 on November 25, 2014, 10:10:59 PM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on November 25, 2014, 08:49:28 PM
Quote from: Pi on November 24, 2014, 09:53:24 PM
Sit down son, its story time. (This can ask be found on the wizard's fiction section, uncharted realms)
The eldrazi were in the blind eternities, eating worlds at their leisure. Ugin worked with Nahiri, self-entitled guardian of Zendikar, and Sorin Markov, the seal away the eldrazi titans in a physical form. Nahiri made the hedrons all over Zendikar, and Ugin set the magic runes on them to trap the eldrazi.
Everything was going well for 3,000 years (or similar, you're welcome to check the exact number), until Bolas hatched a plan to release them. He made sure that Chandra found the Dragon Scroll, which revealed the location of the Eye of Ugin, the magical center of the hedrons. Jace, from his position in the infinite consortium, found out about Chandra having the scroll, and hunted her down. Sarkan Val, had been hearing the voice of Ugin in his head, ever since he left Tarkir. In his quest for a dragon to follow/obey, he planeswalked to grixis, and found Nicol Bolas. Bolas believes that Sarkan is insane, and sent him to the Eye of Ugin.
When Chandra made it to the Eye, she found Sarkan, in dragon form, and promptly began fighting with him. Jace intervened, and the power of the 3 planeswalker sparks, undid the work of Ugin, Sorin, and Nahiri, releasing the eldrazi.
Which brings us the Khans of Tarkir. Sorin has come back, looking for Ugin, only to find his bones. Sarkan has returned to his home world.

Whoa! Never thought of that way. So you're saying that KTK takes place before the  Eldrazi were released back into the multiverse?

"When Chandra made it to the Eye, she found Sarkan, in dragon form, and promptly began fighting with him. Jace intervened, and the power of the 3 planeswalker sparks, undid the work of Ugin, Sorin, and Nahiri, releasing the eldrazi. "

No the Eldrazi are currently at large still on zendikar   
Title: Re: Bolas
Post by: Dudecore on November 25, 2014, 10:15:41 PM
Khans of Tarkir is current time.
fate Reforged is time travel to a time before Ugin was killed
Title: Re: Bolas
Post by: Pi on November 26, 2014, 08:39:57 PM
Quote from: Avnger345 on November 25, 2014, 10:10:59 PM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on November 25, 2014, 08:49:28 PM
Quote from: Pi on November 24, 2014, 09:53:24 PM
Sit down son, its story time. (This can ask be found on the wizard's fiction section, uncharted realms)
The eldrazi were in the blind eternities, eating worlds at their leisure. Ugin worked with Nahiri, self-entitled guardian of Zendikar, and Sorin Markov, the seal away the eldrazi titans in a physical form. Nahiri made the hedrons all over Zendikar, and Ugin set the magic runes on them to trap the eldrazi.
Everything was going well for 3,000 years (or similar, you're welcome to check the exact number), until Bolas hatched a plan to release them. He made sure that Chandra found the Dragon Scroll, which revealed the location of the Eye of Ugin, the magical center of the hedrons. Jace, from his position in the infinite consortium, found out about Chandra having the scroll, and hunted her down. Sarkan Val, had been hearing the voice of Ugin in his head, ever since he left Tarkir. In his quest for a dragon to follow/obey, he planeswalked to grixis, and found Nicol Bolas. Bolas believes that Sarkan is insane, and sent him to the Eye of Ugin.
When Chandra made it to the Eye, she found Sarkan, in dragon form, and promptly began fighting with him. Jace intervened, and the power of the 3 planeswalker sparks, undid the work of Ugin, Sorin, and Nahiri, releasing the eldrazi.
Which brings us the Khans of Tarkir. Sorin has come back, looking for Ugin, only to find his bones. Sarkan has returned to his home world.

Whoa! Never thought of that way. So you're saying that KTK takes place before the  Eldrazi were released back into the multiverse?

"When Chandra made it to the Eye, she found Sarkan, in dragon form, and promptly began fighting with him. Jace intervened, and the power of the 3 planeswalker sparks, undid the work of Ugin, Sorin, and Nahiri, releasing the eldrazi. "

No the Eldrazi are currently at large still on zendikar
Tl;DR version: Ugin, Nahiri, and Sorin seal the eldrazi titans in Zendikar. Bolas manipulates Chandra, Jace, and Sarkan into releasing the eldrazi titans. Sorin needs Ugin ( it is implied that Nahiri is still on Zendikar) to seal them away again.
Title: Re: Bolas
Post by: The1337Magician on November 27, 2014, 10:29:28 AM
Quote from: Pi on November 26, 2014, 08:39:57 PM
Quote from: Avnger345 on November 25, 2014, 10:10:59 PM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on November 25, 2014, 08:49:28 PM
Quote from: Pi on November 24, 2014, 09:53:24 PM
Sit down son, its story time. (This can ask be found on the wizard's fiction section, uncharted realms)
The eldrazi were in the blind eternities, eating worlds at their leisure. Ugin worked with Nahiri, self-entitled guardian of Zendikar, and Sorin Markov, the seal away the eldrazi titans in a physical form. Nahiri made the hedrons all over Zendikar, and Ugin set the magic runes on them to trap the eldrazi.
Everything was going well for 3,000 years (or similar, you're welcome to check the exact number), until Bolas hatched a plan to release them. He made sure that Chandra found the Dragon Scroll, which revealed the location of the Eye of Ugin, the magical center of the hedrons. Jace, from his position in the infinite consortium, found out about Chandra having the scroll, and hunted her down. Sarkan Val, had been hearing the voice of Ugin in his head, ever since he left Tarkir. In his quest for a dragon to follow/obey, he planeswalked to grixis, and found Nicol Bolas. Bolas believes that Sarkan is insane, and sent him to the Eye of Ugin.
When Chandra made it to the Eye, she found Sarkan, in dragon form, and promptly began fighting with him. Jace intervened, and the power of the 3 planeswalker sparks, undid the work of Ugin, Sorin, and Nahiri, releasing the eldrazi.
Which brings us the Khans of Tarkir. Sorin has come back, looking for Ugin, only to find his bones. Sarkan has returned to his home world.

Whoa! Never thought of that way. So you're saying that KTK takes place before the  Eldrazi were released back into the multiverse?

"When Chandra made it to the Eye, she found Sarkan, in dragon form, and promptly began fighting with him. Jace intervened, and the power of the 3 planeswalker sparks, undid the work of Ugin, Sorin, and Nahiri, releasing the eldrazi. "

No the Eldrazi are currently at large still on zendikar
Tl;DR version: Ugin, Nahiri, and Sorin seal the eldrazi titans in Zendikar. Bolas manipulates Chandra, Jace, and Sarkan into releasing the eldrazi titans. Sorin needs Ugin ( it is implied that Nahiri is still on Zendikar) to seal them away again.
TL;DR: Planeswalkers are cool. Things happen. You really should read it all.
Title: Re: Bolas
Post by: Phoenix X30 on November 28, 2014, 12:18:09 AM
Isn't the lithamancer dead too? Planeswalkers live a long time but they're not immortal. Sorrin is still only about because he's a vampire.
Title: Re: Bolas
Post by: The1337Magician on November 28, 2014, 08:57:09 AM
Quote from: Phoenix X30 on November 28, 2014, 12:18:09 AM
Isn't the lithamancer dead too? Planeswalkers live a long time but they're not immortal. Sorrin is still only about because he's a vampire.
Well, I think that he also was a pre-mending Planeswalker. Did all this happen before the mending, if so Nahiri might be alive too.
Title: Re: Bolas
Post by: MacheteMable on December 02, 2014, 07:05:20 AM
The eldrazi also aren't all on zendikar. Only kozilek remains I believe, might be Ulamog. The other two titans have left looking for more plane nom noms.
Title: Re: Bolas
Post by: Spikepit on December 02, 2014, 07:42:57 AM
Quote from: MacheteMable on December 02, 2014, 07:05:20 AM
The eldrazi also aren't all on zendikar. Only kozilek remains I believe, might be Ulamog. The other two titans have left looking for more plane nom noms.
Where did it say that?! Know of a link?
Title: Re: Bolas
Post by: Distriimuir on December 02, 2014, 03:20:02 PM
Quote from: Spikepit on December 02, 2014, 07:42:57 AM
Quote from: MacheteMable on December 02, 2014, 07:05:20 AM
The eldrazi also aren't all on zendikar. Only kozilek remains I believe, might be Ulamog. The other two titans have left looking for more plane nom noms.
Where did it say that?! Know of a link?

It was in one of wizards sites "novels" that they write randomly. Someone was on zenkidar and noticed it was almost completely destroyed. Offspring are still there but it mentions the Titans have left the plane.
Title: Re: Bolas
Post by: MuggyWuggy on December 02, 2014, 03:24:57 PM
So if we go back in time....do we get mana burn back?