My playgroup is thinking of allowing all planeswalkers as commanders (there have also been hints that the EDH Council may allow it) so I wondered if you guys see any problems and/or planeswalkers that could be cool to build around.
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on November 10, 2014, 03:09:22 PM
My playgroup is thinking of allowing all planeswalkers as commanders (there have also been hints that the EDH Council may allow it) so I wondered if you guys see any problems and/or planeswalkers that could be cool to build around.
I think too many would need to be banned. Jtms would be bonkers. {Liliana of the Veil} would be insane. Even {Liliana Vess} would be broken as your commander is vampiric tutor. Imagine {Sorin Markov}... Idk. Seems unhealthy for the format to me.
Jtms.
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on November 10, 2014, 03:15:18 PM
Jtms.
That was the one we talked about, but when you really think about it, which is more broken: {Zur the Enchanter}, or {Jace, the Mind Sculptor}?
Go Tibalt. Be that guy.
Sadly there aren't that many multicolored Planeswalker, so unless you want to go mono color, your options would be a bit limited. Vraska could make for a neat deck theme, though. You could also make a fun Izzet deck with Dack or Ral Zarek. Venser probably absurdly powerful as a commander, too.
Ill get jace out and return zur to yor hand and then to top it off, do some shuffle nonsense to you
Just playing in magic fairy tale land
Quote from: Gorzo on November 10, 2014, 03:17:01 PM
Go Tibalt. Be that guy.
Sadly there aren't that many multicolored Planeswalker, so unless you want to go mono color, your options would be a bit limited. Vraska could make for a neat deck theme, though. You could also make a fun Izzet deck with Dack or Ral Zarek. Venser probably absurdly powerful as a commander, too.
Lol, as for Multicolor, all of the two colors have been made, and Nicol is the only tri.
Do all of the 2 color combos have a walker? I know most do, but I can't think of a Rakdos Planeswalker, for example.
Quote from: Gorzo on November 10, 2014, 03:20:37 PM
Do all of the 2 color combos have a walker? I know most do, but I can't think of a Rakdos Planeswalker, for example.
{Sarkhan the Mad}
Quote from: DrainCleaner on November 10, 2014, 03:22:19 PM
Quote from: Gorzo on November 10, 2014, 03:20:37 PM
Do all of the 2 color combos have a walker? I know most do, but I can't think of a Rakdos Planeswalker, for example.
{Sarkhan the Mad}
Aha! Forgot brain-drained Sarkhan was black! Very good, then! God, that would be an awful card to use as your commander.
Well, actually... It could be a funny dragon tribal deck, just use him for his -4 and turn your commander into a dragonsplosion.
But Nicol is an 8 drop..
I've argued that Planeswalkers would be straight up bad as Commanders. There is virtually no chance they survive a full table rotation. And I've played {Jace, the Mind Sculptor} in many EDH decks, hes really not that good. Repeatable {brainstorm} is awesome in other formats, what do you do in EDH? Leave him with 3 counters and then what? Cool, you paid 4 mana for {Brainstorm}. And if you've successfully locked the board down, and your planeswalker can survive, it could have done that from your hand.
I understand the interest from EDHers based on how these cards perform in other formats, but {Consecrated Sphinx} is 5x the card JtMS is in this format. The only decent one would be {Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker} because you can use Grixis colors to build a cool deck.
Quote from: Dudecore on November 10, 2014, 04:07:56 PM
I've argued that Planeswalkers would be straight up bad as Commanders. There is virtually no chance they survive a full table rotation. And I've played {Jace, the Mind Sculptor} in many EDH decks, hes really not that good. Repeatable {brainstorm} is awesome in other formats, what do you do in EDH? Leave him with 3 counters and then what? Cool, you paid 4 mana for {Brainstorm}. And if you've successfully locked the board down, and your planeswalker can survive, it could have done that from your hand.
I understand the interest from EDHers based on how these cards perform in other formats, but {Consecrated Sphinx} is 5x the card JtMS is in this format.
Exactly, I just want to use {Jace, the Mind Sculptor} for awesomeness points, I know he's not OP or anything.
He'd be awesome in my Illusion Tribal deck...because it has a Jace theme. But I think there are better cards then {Brainstorm} in the format, and for 4-mana I'm not going to fateseal. That leaves {Boomerang}. I don't think so. There are better commanders then {Jace, the Mind Sculptor} and {Liliana of the Veil}.
I just feel that people unfamiliar with the format feel these cards are OP because OMG they get played in legacy and banned in standard. I disagree. JtMS got cut from one deck entirely because he kind of just sucked to put it simply.
Well it all depends; 1v1 commander, teams, FFA. If one can protect a PW to ultimate several times. A library exile would be rather nasty.
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on November 10, 2014, 04:16:56 PM
Well it all depends; 1v1 commander, teams, FFA. If one can protect a PW to ultimate several times. A library exile would be rather nasty.
True, but there are worse things you could do in commander....Also, I'm talking about multiplayer, should have clarified; when I say commander I default to Multiplayer, French commander is 1v1.
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on November 10, 2014, 04:19:00 PM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on November 10, 2014, 04:16:56 PM
Well it all depends; 1v1 commander, teams, FFA. If one can protect a PW to ultimate several times. A library exile would be rather nasty.
True, but there are worse things you could do in commander....Also, I'm talking about multiplayer, should have clarified; when I say commander I default to Multiplayer, French commander is 1v1.
EDH is a format that can be played by 2-infinite players. I think restricting yourself to different "french" rules when there are 2 players is silly. I will never acknowledge the existence of french rules lol
I guess elspeth suns champion could get annoying really fast
Dem {venser, the sojourner}, {domri rade}, {garruk, caller of beasts}, and {garruk, apex predator} Doe...
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on November 10, 2014, 04:29:58 PM
I guess elspeth suns champion could get annoying really fast
Yeah, but white doesn't generally have too much reach, so it might be what the color needs.