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Title: Commander
Post by: 5/9 Turtle on November 09, 2014, 11:09:59 PM
So I'm asking for one commander 2014 deck for christmas and I have no idea which one to ask for. I am thinking green, blue, or black. Which one has the most value, best cards
Title: Re: Commander
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on November 09, 2014, 11:10:59 PM
Honestly, the best ones, and the ones with the most value are probably white and red. That said, green and black have a lot of cool cards with nice synergies.
Title: Re: Commander
Post by: Rothsteine on November 10, 2014, 12:24:02 AM
i bought the black 1
Title: Re: Commander
Post by: MuggyWuggy on November 10, 2014, 12:28:45 AM
Mind seize 2013
Title: Re: Commander
Post by: DrainCleaner on November 10, 2014, 12:46:48 AM
They're all sweet. I just won a 4 hour game with the blue one. (The game was 6 players w/ one of each C2014 deck except 2 of the white one) most epic edh game i ever played
Title: Re: Commander
Post by: Rothsteine on November 10, 2014, 12:48:50 AM
how did black do?
Title: Re: Commander
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on November 10, 2014, 01:08:25 AM
Quote from: DrainCleaner on November 10, 2014, 12:46:48 AM
They're all sweet. I just won a 4 hour game with the blue one. (The game was 6 players w/ one of each C2014 deck except 2 of the white one) most epic edh game i ever played
Really? I'm really disappointed in the blue deck, I wish it had some coheredness or synergy. For example, they had {Ixidron} and a bunch of Morph creatures, why not make it a morph deck? Also Gisa just makes absolutely no sense in the deck. That being said, you have played with it and I haven't, how did it do?
Title: Re: Commander
Post by: DrainCleaner on November 10, 2014, 02:06:40 AM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on November 10, 2014, 01:08:25 AM
Quote from: DrainCleaner on November 10, 2014, 12:46:48 AM
They're all sweet. I just won a 4 hour game with the blue one. (The game was 6 players w/ one of each C2014 deck except 2 of the white one) most epic edh game i ever played
Really? I'm really disappointed in the blue deck, I wish it had some coheredness or synergy. For example, they had {Ixidron} and a bunch of Morph creatures, why not make it a morph deck? Also Gisa just makes absolutely no sense in the deck. That being said, you have played with it and I haven't, how did it do?

The late game ferocity was good. The synergies it has are not as obvious as with the other decks, but after playing such a long and epic game, i have to say the deck was put together quite well.
Title: Re: Commander
Post by: Rothsteine on November 10, 2014, 08:34:12 AM
Quote from: DrainCleaner on November 10, 2014, 02:06:40 AM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on November 10, 2014, 01:08:25 AM
Quote from: DrainCleaner on November 10, 2014, 12:46:48 AM
They're all sweet. I just won a 4 hour game with the blue one. (The game was 6 players w/ one of each C2014 deck except 2 of the white one) most epic edh game i ever played
Really? I'm really disappointed in the blue deck, I wish it had some coheredness or synergy. For example, they had {Ixidron} and a bunch of Morph creatures, why not make it a morph deck? Also Gisa just makes absolutely no sense in the deck. That being said, you have played with it and I haven't, how did it do?

The late game ferocity was good. The synergies it has are not as obvious as with the other decks, but after playing such a long and epic game, i have to say the deck was put together quite well.
Did the black do well and was it geared as a mid early or late game stratagy
Title: Re: Commander
Post by: redwolv on November 10, 2014, 10:26:41 AM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on November 10, 2014, 12:28:45 AM
Mind seize 2013
This.
I started playing commander after i bought this deck. Nothing beats  {True-Name Nemesis}.
Title: Re: Commander
Post by: Gorzo on November 10, 2014, 10:33:38 AM
Quote from: redwolv on November 10, 2014, 10:26:41 AM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on November 10, 2014, 12:28:45 AM
Mind seize 2013
This.
I started playing commander after i bought this deck. Nothing beats  {True-Name Nemesis}.

Well, except for any global effect whatsoever :P it's a great card, nonetheless!

And yes, the 2013 3-color Alara wedge decks are probably a stronger investment than the mono color 2014 decks. I haven't gotten to play with any of the 2014 decks yet (been laid out with a nasty cold, sinus infection, ear infection, and bronchitis for 2 weeks now) but they don't look as fun
Title: Re: Commander
Post by: DrainCleaner on November 10, 2014, 11:33:24 AM
Quote from: Rothsteine on November 10, 2014, 08:34:12 AM
Quote from: DrainCleaner on November 10, 2014, 02:06:40 AM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on November 10, 2014, 01:08:25 AM
Quote from: DrainCleaner on November 10, 2014, 12:46:48 AM
They're all sweet. I just won a 4 hour game with the blue one. (The game was 6 players w/ one of each C2014 deck except 2 of the white one) most epic edh game i ever played
Really? I'm really disappointed in the blue deck, I wish it had some coheredness or synergy. For example, they had {Ixidron} and a bunch of Morph creatures, why not make it a morph deck? Also Gisa just makes absolutely no sense in the deck. That being said, you have played with it and I haven't, how did it do?

The late game ferocity was good. The synergies it has are not as obvious as with the other decks, but after playing such a long and epic game, i have to say the deck was put together quite well.
Did the black do well and was it geared as a mid early or late game stratagy

The black one was actually the first eliminated. Probably because the most inexperienced player played with black, but it died first.
Title: Re: Commander
Post by: Wingnut on November 10, 2014, 12:29:48 PM
The black deck is gross, 2 of them were in a 7 player game this weekend, my 12 yo daughter placed 3rd and the guy that won was running black. It'll be the first one I pick up. I was running blue and I also was not incredibly impressed (though I may not have figured it out). The green one is also extremely dangerous and quick.
Title: Re: Commander
Post by: DrainCleaner on November 10, 2014, 12:44:31 PM
Quote from: Wingnut on November 10, 2014, 12:29:48 PM
The black deck is gross, 2 of them were in a 7 player game this weekend, my 12 yo daughter placed 3rd and the guy that won was running black. It'll be the first one I pick up. I was running blue and I also was not incredibly impressed (though I may not have figured it out). The green one is also extremely dangerous and quick.
Yea the green one was public enemy no1 after a few turns of ramping into that wolf enchantment. We took him out though.
Title: Re: Commander
Post by: imthelolrus on November 10, 2014, 01:27:06 PM
The red deck has a lot of great reprints/staples and a very powerful new card in Dualcaster Mage. However unless you have red EDH decks or reeeeally  like the color, you may be disappointed since its mono color. Again, it's more value and multiformat staples than cards you might end up using in your EDH deck. I bought mine with the intention of piecing it apart
Title: Re: Commander
Post by: Remillo on November 10, 2014, 02:39:36 PM
If you want a deck that's actually viable in games with constructed decks, I'd go with the White or Red ones (which, coincidentally, have the most value in them).  Having played both with and against them, they're capable of awesomely powerful things that seem just too strong for a Pre-Con.  But they exist as they do.
Title: Re: Commander
Post by: MuggyWuggy on November 10, 2014, 03:16:10 PM
Precons will never have the power of home brews
Title: Re: Commander
Post by: DrainCleaner on November 10, 2014, 03:17:06 PM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on November 10, 2014, 03:16:10 PM
Precons will never have the power of home brews

These ones are definitely a step above the previous precons though.
Title: Re: Commander
Post by: 5/9 Turtle on November 10, 2014, 05:49:17 PM
I'm mostly looking to piece it apart, so which one has the most value for this purpose
Title: Re: Commander
Post by: Double-O-Scotch on November 11, 2014, 01:20:17 PM
The white deck is incredibly good, component wise...
Title: Re: Commander
Post by: Remillo on November 11, 2014, 01:42:44 PM
You could easily take the white one, add a few better equipment ({Batterskull}, {Umezawa's Jitte}, Kaldra artifacts), a {Stonehewer Giant}, {Stoneforge Mystic} and a {Steelshaper's Gift}.  You'd have a perfectly fine Equipment/Swarm deck.
Title: Re: Commander
Post by: VQMracing on November 11, 2014, 09:57:02 PM
In complete honesty, the red one is just stustupii played it tonight wwithvery minimal changes and it basically became a game of solitaire each game