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Title: repay life??
Post by: imFourth of Phils on November 09, 2014, 01:22:20 AM
i have in play {Phyrexian Processor} and opponent use {Flicker} to it, do i have to pay new life after it returned to battlefield?

thanks
Title: Re: repay life??
Post by: imFourth of Phils on November 09, 2014, 01:25:21 AM
follow up question.. what if opponent also copy {Phyrexian Processor} with {Clever Impersonator} or {Phyrexian Metamorph}, does opponent have to pay life also?

thanks
Title: Re: repay life??
Post by: Daxos on November 09, 2014, 02:25:31 AM
Quote from: imFourth of Phils on November 09, 2014, 01:22:20 AM
i have in play {Phyrexian Processor} and opponent use {Flicker} to it, do i have to pay new life after it returned to battlefield?

thanks

Yes.
(Technically you don't _have to_, but paying 0 is mostly useless as the ruling on the card states.)

Quote from: imFourth of Phils on November 09, 2014, 01:25:21 AM
follow up question.. what if opponent also copy {Phyrexian Processor} with {Clever Impersonator} or {Phyrexian Metamorph}, does opponent have to pay life also?

thanks

No, the Impersonator becomes a perfect copy of your Processor already in play with all it's attributes as set when it entered the battlefield on your side.

that's how I would play this.
IANAJ ( I am not a Judge)
Title: Re: repay life??
Post by: Daxos on November 09, 2014, 02:34:25 AM
Quote from: imFourth of Phils on November 09, 2014, 01:25:21 AM
follow up question.. what if opponent also copy {Phyrexian Processor} with {Clever Impersonator} or {Phyrexian Metamorph}, does opponent have to pay life also?

thanks

Actually I am totally wrong about this, as per last post.
turns out there's an explicit ruling about this on the Phyrexian Metamorph's Oracle page:

"6/1/2011   Any enters-the-battlefield abilities of the copied permanent will trigger when Phyrexian Metamorph enters the battlefield. Any "as [this] enters the battlefield" or "[this] enters the battlefield with" abilities of the chosen permanent will also work."

So yea your opponent playing the card copiers would need to pay the life
Title: Re: repay life??
Post by: imFourth of Phils on November 09, 2014, 03:52:03 AM
Quote from: Daxos on November 09, 2014, 02:34:25 AM
Quote from: imFourth of Phils on November 09, 2014, 01:25:21 AM
follow up question.. what if opponent also copy {Phyrexian Processor} with {Clever Impersonator} or {Phyrexian Metamorph}, does opponent have to pay life also?

thanks

Actually I am totally wrong about this, as per last post.
turns out there's an explicit ruling about this on the Phyrexian Metamorph's Oracle page:

"6/1/2011   Any enters-the-battlefield abilities of the copied permanent will trigger when Phyrexian Metamorph enters the battlefield. Any "as [this] enters the battlefield" or "[this] enters the battlefield with" abilities of the chosen permanent will also work."

So yea your opponent playing the card copiers would need to pay the life

thankyou thankyou :)
Title: Re: repay life??
Post by: Daxos on November 09, 2014, 08:15:49 PM
w00t!

(feel like I'm paying it forward)
(Noble Llama, watch out buddy!)
Title: Re: repay life??
Post by: Daxos on November 10, 2014, 07:31:32 AM
Quote from: Noblellama on November 09, 2014, 08:28:09 PM
Quote from: Daxos on November 09, 2014, 08:15:49 PM
w00t!

(feel like I'm paying it forward)
(Noble Llama, watch out buddy!)

I'll give ya a boost ;)

a {Primal Boost} ?
heheheh trolololo
Title: Re: repay life??
Post by: cltrn81 on November 10, 2014, 08:42:51 AM
I am glad you made the correction.  I was reading this top and down and was like "uhh wait a sec that is wrong, they will need to pay life for the copy as well"

Nice correction :)
Title: Re: repay life??
Post by: Daxos on November 11, 2014, 08:49:15 PM
w00t w00t,

iMTG forums, where you get commended for correction (to your own dummy posts)

felicitations all around, us.