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Title: Roon of the Hidden Realm
Post by: Ekann1 on November 07, 2014, 10:43:59 PM
Roon of the Hidden Realm

100 cards, 0 sideboard

Commander
{Roon of the Hidden Realm}

6 {Forest} ✨/full art
4 {Plains}✨/full art
4 {Island}✨/full art
1 {Breeding Pool}
1 {Hallowed Fountain}✨
1 {Temple Garden}
1 {Temple of Mystery}
1 {Temple of Enlightenment}
1 {Temple of Plenty}
1 {Glacial Fortress}
1 {Sunpetal Grove}
1 {Hinterland Harbor}
1 {Celestial Colonnade}
1 {Stirring Wildwood}
1 {Treetop Village}
1 {Dryad arbor}
1 {Flooded Strand}
1 {Windswept Heath}
1 {Command Tower}
1 {Seaside Citadel}
1 {Reflecting Pool}
1 {Temple of the False God}
1 {Gavony Township}
1 {Yavimaya Hollow}
1 {Minamo, School at Water's Edge}

36 lands


1 {Coiling Oracle}
1 {Gilded Drake}
1 {Containment Priest}
1 {Mistmeadow Witch}
1 {Qasali Pridemage}
1 {Kitchen Finks}
1 {Eternal Witness}
1 {Farhaven Elf}
1 {Mangara of Corondor}
1 {Reclamation Sage} full art game day
1 {Wood Elves}
1 {Archeomancer}
1 {Clever Impersonator}
1 {Glen Elendra Archmage}
1 {Ephara, God of the Polis}✒️
1 {Hokori, Dust Drinker}
1 {Restoration Angel}
1 {Solemn Simulacrum}
1 {Spike Weaver}
1 {Venser, Shaper Savant}✨✒️
1 {Nevermaker}
1 {Acidic Slime}
1 {Thragtusk}
1 {Karmic Guide}
1 {Mulldrifter}
1 {Perplexing Chimera}
1 {Prophet of Kruphix}
1 {Reveillark}
1 {Seedborn Muse}
1 {Bane of Progress}
1 {Deadeye Navigator}
1 {Duplicant}
1 {Prime Speaker Zegana}
1 {Sun Titan}
1 {Hornet Queen}
1 {Trostani's Summoner}

36 creatures

1 {Bant Charm}
1 {Beast Within}
1 {Supreme Verdict}
1 {Chord of Calling}
1 {Cyclonic Rift}
1 {Eladamri's Call}
1 {Ghostly Flicker}
1 {Ghostway}
1 {Green Sun's Zenith}✨
1 {Return to Dust}
1 {Swords to Plowshares}✨
1 {Tooth and Nail}
1 {Voidslime}
1 {Wordly Tutor}

14 Instants/Sorceries

1 {Birthing Pod}
1 {Conjurer's Closet}
1 {Chromatic Lantern}
1 {Lightning Greaves}
1 {Coalition Relic}
1 {Sensei's Divining Top}
1 {Sol Ring}

7 Artifacts

1 {Aura Shards}
1 {Survival of the Fittest}
1 {Sylvan Library}
1 {Ajani, Mentor of Heroes}
1 {Garruk, Caller of Beasts}
1 {Venser, the Sojurner}

6 other Spells



Title: Re: Melek Commander
Post by: Ekann1 on November 07, 2014, 10:44:18 PM
95% of the credit for this deck goes to {{Dudecore}}, whos build for this deck is basically copied: http://imtgapp.com/forum/index.php?topic=39216.0. Again, thanks for the help :)



Change Log

-Palinchron +Trostani's Summoner 11/14/14
-Krosan Verge +Minamo, School at Water's Edge 1/23/15
-Meddling Mage +Containment Preist 1/23/15
-Birds of Paradise +Solemn Sinulacrum1/23/15
-Bloom Tender 1/25/15
-Novijen, Heart of Progress +Yavimaya Hollow 1/28/15
-Saffi Eriksdotter +Kitchen Finks 1/30/15
-Body Double +Nevermaker 1/30/15
-Condemn +Voidslime 4/11/15
Possibilities

{Gilded Lotus}
{Voidslime}
{Mystic Snake}
{Path to Exile}
{Solemn Simulacrum}
{Palinchron}
{Mistveil Plains}
Title: Re: Melek Commander
Post by: Ekann1 on November 07, 2014, 10:44:27 PM
Reserved
Title: Re: Roon of the Hidden Realm
Post by: Dudecore on November 08, 2014, 07:11:03 AM
Love the list. The Temples are a great idea. I run all 10 in my {Cromat} deck, and although they're slow it allows you to game plan a bit as in "I'm shipping any non-land" if you're behind. I may try to fit them into my list too.

{Minamo, School at Water's Edge} for untapping  {Roon of the Hidden Realm}?

As far as ramp goes: {Wood Elves}, {Farhaven Elf} and {Solemn Simulacrum} are legit. {Bloom Tender} is kind of a judgement call. It's $12 and not exactly the best. I think {Birds of Paradise} is kinda weak here too. I know {Noble Hierarch} isn't much better, but I have one and like the card. Kind of a bragging include.
Title: Re: Roon of the Hidden Realm
Post by: Ekann1 on November 08, 2014, 08:31:54 AM
Quote from: Dudecore on November 08, 2014, 07:11:03 AM
Love the list. The Temples are a great idea. I run all 10 in my {Cromat} deck, and although they're slow it allows you to game plan a bit as in "I'm shipping any non-land" if you're behind. I may try to fit them into my list too.

{Minamo, School at Water's Edge} for untapping  {Roon of the Hidden Realm}?

As far as ramp goes: {Wood Elves}, {Farhaven Elf} and {Solemn Simulacrum} are legit. {Bloom Tender} is kind of a judgement call. It's $12 and not exactly the best. I think {Birds of Paradise} is kinda weak here too. I know {Noble Hierarch} isn't much better, but I have one and like the card. Kind of a bragging include.
Both of the elves are in there, so are you suggesting cutting {Bloom Tender} for the simulacrum? I'm confused :P

As for birds, the hierarch is out of my budget so I threw those in. I'm still kinda worried about creature based ramp, so is there something you would add instead? By the way, my budget is probably around $15-20/card besides SoF, although I prefer to stay in the $10 range.

I don't want to cut any more basics, but I could see cutting {treetop village} for Minamo. I'd rather get the rest of the deck first though.
Title: Re: Roon of the Hidden Realm
Post by: Dudecore on November 08, 2014, 10:59:11 AM
How about  {Wall of Roots}? You've got ways to Negate -0/-1 counters.

How about {Voice of Resurgence}? I am considering it over {Meddling Mage}. Mage was a bit of a snap reaction to {Containment Priest} which actually doesn't hose it. I don't have any way of knowing an opponent is playing it or not, and I can't just reactively play it because Priest will already be on the stack. A counterspell is better then Mage in EDH.
Title: Re: Roon of the Hidden Realm
Post by: Kaalia with haste on November 08, 2014, 11:01:31 AM
Quote from: Dudecore on November 08, 2014, 10:59:11 AM
How about  {Wall of Roots}? You've got ways to Negate  -0/-1 counters
It's also super good with pod
Title: Re: Roon of the Hidden Realm
Post by: Dudecore on November 08, 2014, 11:06:21 AM
Quote from: Hexproof_is_the_best on November 08, 2014, 11:01:31 AM
Quote from: Dudecore on November 08, 2014, 10:59:11 AM
How about  {Wall of Roots}? You've got ways to Negate  -0/-1 counters
It's also super good with pod

And you can use it twice per turn. Because it doesn't tap the creature you can use it the turn it comes out, blink, its considered a new permanent and use it again.
Title: Re: Roon of the Hidden Realm
Post by: Ekann1 on November 08, 2014, 11:25:56 AM
Maybe {Voidslime} over Mage? Or Path?
Title: Re: Roon of the Hidden Realm
Post by: Ekann1 on November 08, 2014, 09:58:47 PM
Well, just traded practically every valuable card from my trade binder besides 2 brimaz and 2 rabblemaster for about 10 cards I needed for this... I wish I'd been playing for longer :-/
Title: Re: Roon of the Hidden Realm
Post by: Dudecore on November 09, 2014, 08:46:19 AM
How about {Trostani's Summoner}? Pretty cool finisher that puts 10 power on the board. Plus a sweet promo version is like $1.
Title: Re: Roon of the Hidden Realm
Post by: Ekann1 on November 09, 2014, 09:09:00 AM
Quote from: Dudecore on November 09, 2014, 08:46:19 AM
How about {Trostani's Summoner}? Pretty cool finisher that puts 10 power on the board. Plus a sweet promo version is like $1.
What would you cut?
Title: Re: Roon of the Hidden Realm
Post by: Dudecore on November 09, 2014, 09:24:26 AM
Quote from: E.kann1 on November 09, 2014, 09:09:00 AM
Quote from: Dudecore on November 09, 2014, 08:46:19 AM
How about {Trostani's Summoner}? Pretty cool finisher that puts 10 power on the board. Plus a sweet promo version is like $1.
What would you cut?

{Palinchron}, I think he's boring. The infinite combo is kinda played out and ultimately not as satisfying.
Title: Re: Roon of the Hidden Realm
Post by: Ekann1 on November 09, 2014, 09:33:53 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on November 09, 2014, 09:24:26 AM
Quote from: E.kann1 on November 09, 2014, 09:09:00 AM
Quote from: Dudecore on November 09, 2014, 08:46:19 AM
How about {Trostani's Summoner}? Pretty cool finisher that puts 10 power on the board. Plus a sweet promo version is like $1.
What would you cut?

{Palinchron}, I think he's boring. The infinite combo is kinda played out and ultimately not as satisfying.
Meh, I still want to keep this as competitive a combo deck as possible. But I'll keep it under consideration.
Title: Re: Roon of the Hidden Realm
Post by: blackychan1 on November 10, 2014, 12:35:04 AM
Quote from: E.kann1 on November 09, 2014, 09:09:00 AM
Quote from: Dudecore on November 09, 2014, 08:46:19 AM
How about {Trostani's Summoner}? Pretty cool finisher that puts 10 power on the board. Plus a sweet promo version is like $1.
What would you cut?
I feel like the Ajani doesn't do much for you... You are just going to flicker away the counters from his +1, and his ult doesn't matter in Commander due to the 21 Commander Damage Rule...
Title: Re: Roon of the Hidden Realm
Post by: Ekann1 on November 11, 2014, 03:05:51 PM
Quote from: blackychan1 on November 10, 2014, 12:35:04 AM
Quote from: E.kann1 on November 09, 2014, 09:09:00 AM
Quote from: Dudecore on November 09, 2014, 08:46:19 AM
How about {Trostani's Summoner}? Pretty cool finisher that puts 10 power on the board. Plus a sweet promo version is like $1.
What would you cut?
I feel like the Ajani doesn't do much for you... You are just going to flicker away the counters from his +1, and his ult doesn't matter in Commander due to the 21 Commander Damage Rule...
True. However I don't like the idea of cutting a 5 drop for a 7 drop...
Title: Re: Roon of the Hidden Realm
Post by: Kaalia with haste on November 11, 2014, 03:18:50 PM
Quote from: E.kann1 on November 11, 2014, 03:05:51 PM
Quote from: blackychan1 on November 10, 2014, 12:35:04 AM
Quote from: E.kann1 on November 09, 2014, 09:09:00 AM
Quote from: Dudecore on November 09, 2014, 08:46:19 AM
How about {Trostani's Summoner}? Pretty cool finisher that puts 10 power on the board. Plus a sweet promo version is like $1.
What would you cut?
I feel like the Ajani doesn't do much for you... You are just going to flicker away the counters from his +1, and his ult doesn't matter in Commander due to the 21 Commander Damage Rule...
True. However I don't like the idea of cutting a 5 drop for a 7 drop...
In that case, cut hornet queen. Triple green and a meh effect. I much prefer trostanis summoner
Title: Re: Roon of the Hidden Realm
Post by: Ekann1 on November 11, 2014, 04:06:33 PM
Buuuut deathtouch! Great on defense.
Title: Re: Roon of the Hidden Realm
Post by: Kaalia with haste on November 11, 2014, 06:17:29 PM
Quote from: E.kann1 on November 11, 2014, 04:06:33 PM
Buuuut deathtouch! Great on defense.
But only on defense. The summoner is great attacking or blocking, plus 7 drops are best as finishers, not cards that stall.
Title: Re: Roon of the Hidden Realm
Post by: Ekann1 on November 11, 2014, 10:44:23 PM
Quote from: Hexproof_is_the_best on November 11, 2014, 06:17:29 PM
Quote from: E.kann1 on November 11, 2014, 04:06:33 PM
Buuuut deathtouch! Great on defense.
But only on defense. The summoner is great attacking or blocking, plus 7 drops are best as finishers, not cards that stall.
That is true. However deathtouch flyers are nice to kill literally anything anyone throws at you, which they will when you're getting 10 power/turn.
Title: Re: Roon of the Hidden Realm
Post by: Ekann1 on November 11, 2014, 10:45:46 PM
But now that I think about it that doesn't work... It would be one or the other. I'm leaning towards the summoner, assuming I have one. If not I think I'll go for the queen since I traded for one on Saturday.
Title: Re: Roon of the Hidden Realm
Post by: Ekann1 on November 15, 2014, 12:07:31 AM
Well, I did find one :)

I may end up cutting the Palinchron as it is really boring.
Title: Re: Roon of the Hidden Realm
Post by: blackychan1 on November 15, 2014, 11:55:15 AM
{containment priest} loves Roon.....
Title: Re: Roon of the Hidden Realm
Post by: Ekann1 on November 15, 2014, 09:14:01 PM
Quote from: blackychan1 on November 15, 2014, 11:55:15 AM
{containment priest} loves Roon.....
*shudders*

Shhhh, ignore it and maybe it'll go away...

😉
Title: Re: Roon of the Hidden Realm
Post by: Ekann1 on November 15, 2014, 09:14:16 PM
Quote from: E.kann1 on November 15, 2014, 12:07:31 AM
Well, I did find one :)

I may end up cutting the Palinchron as it is really boring.
Done.
Title: Re: Roon of the Hidden Realm
Post by: Ekann1 on December 24, 2014, 10:10:28 PM
Bump on request.
Title: Re: Roon of the Hidden Realm
Post by: Ekann1 on December 24, 2014, 10:12:32 PM
Just so you guys know, this list is old and definitely needs updates, I just haven't gotten around to it.
Title: Re: Roon of the Hidden Realm
Post by: Ekann1 on January 23, 2015, 02:48:47 PM
Bump with many edits. And so I don't have to search through 3 pages to find this again once I make a change.
Title: Re: Roon of the Hidden Realm
Post by: Ekann1 on January 23, 2015, 02:57:08 PM
I need to replace {Birds of Paradise}. Any suggestions for one mana non-creature ramp or something else to have instead? Should I play like {Brainstorm} or a Sword or something?
Title: Re: Roon of the Hidden Realm
Post by: Ekann1 on January 23, 2015, 02:58:13 PM
Quote from: E.kann1 on January 23, 2015, 02:57:08 PM
I need to replace {Birds of Paradise}. Any suggestions for one mana non-creature ramp or something else to have instead? Should I play like {Brainstorm} or a Sword or something?
So far thinking of replacing it with {Solemn Simulacrum}.
Title: Re: Roon of the Hidden Realm
Post by: Ekann1 on January 23, 2015, 02:59:55 PM
Any thoughts on whether I need a 37th land?

I am also considering replacing {Bloom Tender} but it would need to be a 2 mana non creature or 2 mana creature with a good ETB trigger.

Also may need a replacement for Ajani.
Title: Re: Roon of the Hidden Realm
Post by: cltrn81 on January 24, 2015, 08:04:03 AM
I have always loved bounce and etb shenanigans.  I am building Roon next.  Solid list.
Title: Re: Roon of the Hidden Realm
Post by: cltrn81 on January 24, 2015, 08:11:03 AM
Solemn simulcrum over woodelves?  Sure it is 1 more mana but it is straight colorless and is the best chump blocker cuz he replaces himself
Title: Re: Roon of the Hidden Realm
Post by: Ekann1 on January 24, 2015, 08:48:30 AM
Quote from: cltrn81 on January 24, 2015, 08:11:03 AM
Solemn simulcrum over woodelves?  Sure it is 1 more mana but it is straight colorless and is the best chump blocker cuz he replaces himself
Both in there 😊
Title: Re: Roon of the Hidden Realm
Post by: cltrn81 on January 24, 2015, 10:02:11 AM
See him now.  Sneaky golem
Title: Re: Roon of the Hidden Realm
Post by: Ekann1 on January 24, 2015, 11:12:11 AM
Haha, yep :P
Title: Re: Roon of the Hidden Realm
Post by: Ekann1 on January 24, 2015, 05:38:32 PM
Any ideas for a replacement for {Bloom Tender}?
Title: Re: Roon of the Hidden Realm
Post by: cltrn81 on January 24, 2015, 06:26:34 PM
Quote from: E.kann1 on January 24, 2015, 05:38:32 PM
Any ideas for a replacement for {Bloom Tender}?
{Lotus cobra}?
Title: Re: Roon of the Hidden Realm
Post by: Ekann1 on January 24, 2015, 07:36:11 PM
My hope was sorta to have something that wouldn't die to a board wipe.
Title: Re: Roon of the Hidden Realm
Post by: Ekann1 on January 25, 2015, 02:01:51 PM
Quote from: E.kann1 on January 24, 2015, 05:38:32 PM
Any ideas for a replacement for {Bloom Tender}?
Quote from: E.kann1 on January 24, 2015, 07:36:11 PM
My hope was sorta to have something that wouldn't die to a board wipe.
Title: Re: Roon of the Hidden Realm
Post by: Munchlax on January 25, 2015, 02:07:10 PM
Quote from: E.kann1 on January 25, 2015, 02:01:51 PM
Quote from: E.kann1 on January 24, 2015, 05:38:32 PM
Any ideas for a replacement for {Bloom Tender}?
Quote from: E.kann1 on January 24, 2015, 07:36:11 PM
My hope was sorta to have something that wouldn't die to a board wipe.
{Gift of Immortality} will keep your dudes from dying (in a way) and retrigger any ETB effect of the creature it is attached to
Title: Re: Roon of the Hidden Realm
Post by: Ekann1 on January 25, 2015, 02:26:54 PM
I was hoping for some type of ramp that is either in ETB form like {Wood Elves} or a non creature form. Maybe {Moss Diamond}? I need cheap ramp when running only 36 lands.
Title: Re: Roon of the Hidden Realm
Post by: Ekann1 on January 25, 2015, 07:07:44 PM
Awkwardly one card over, just cutting {Bloom Tender}.
Title: Re: Roon of the Hidden Realm
Post by: cltrn81 on January 25, 2015, 08:32:53 PM
Considered  {dauntless escort}?  I only mention it cuz you said you wanted things to live through board wipes
Title: Re: Roon of the Hidden Realm
Post by: Ekann1 on January 25, 2015, 08:56:05 PM
Quote from: cltrn81 on January 25, 2015, 08:32:53 PM
Considered  {dauntless escort}?  I only mention it cuz you said you wanted things to live through board wipes
Huh. Cool. No, what I really meant was I wanted a mana creature that's effect would live through board wipes like {Wood Elves} where I already have value from it even if it dies. Guess I wasn't explaining myself too well.

But doesn't matter, Bloom Tender is gone and I don't need a replacement.
Title: Re: Roon of the Hidden Realm
Post by: Ekann1 on January 28, 2015, 04:23:25 PM
Thinking of taking the combo out of this entirely, as I find that pretty boring. I have 2-3 new slots, cutting {Saffi Eriksdotter} and {Body Double}. Thinking of {Spell Crumple}/{Hinder} and maybe a ETB bouncing trigger. Thoughts on either {Nevermaker} or {Riftwing Cloudskate}, or something else?

{Kitchen Finks} is also an option.
Title: Re: Roon of the Hidden Realm
Post by: Munchlax on January 28, 2015, 06:03:26 PM
Why not add in {Mentor of the Meek}. You have a lot of 2 power guys so you'll get a lot of value off of it
Title: Re: Roon of the Hidden Realm
Post by: Ekann1 on February 07, 2015, 10:13:00 PM
Was able to make 24 1/1 deathtouch insects today 😂😂😂