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Title: Duel Deck: Elspeth vs. Kiora (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Dudecore on November 01, 2014, 09:40:31 PM
(http://media.wizards.com/2014/c14/aakdfnppleih2/thao3q9rp0_product_ddo_en.jpg)


Two new 60-card theme decks
February 27th, 2015
Spoiled at PAX AUS
Official Announcement (http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/announcing-duel-decks-elspeth-vs-kiora-2014-11-03)
Title: Re: Duel Deck: Elspeth vs. Kiora (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: rarehuntertay on November 01, 2014, 09:55:29 PM
I'm calling  {Godsend} in Elspeth's deck and  {Tromokratis} in Kiora's deck
Title: Re: Duel Deck: Elspeth vs. Kiora (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Ekann1 on November 01, 2014, 09:56:46 PM
Awesome!
Title: Re: Duel Deck: Elspeth vs. Kiora (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Dudecore on November 01, 2014, 09:59:28 PM
That set symbol is really awesome. Time for some awesome Simic reprints like {Trigon Predator} and {Voidslime}!
Title: Re: Duel Deck: Elspeth vs. Kiora (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on November 01, 2014, 10:04:11 PM
I was just going to post this. Those are the two walkers I want in foil.
Title: Re: Duel Deck: Elspeth vs. Kiora (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Spikepit on November 01, 2014, 11:00:26 PM
Man, I want that Voidlsime something fierce!

I bet the Elspeth deck is full of exiles and pacifiers.

That symbol IS awesome. It's early days yet, but I'd go as far as to say my fav so far. It's very Mauri!
Title: Re: Duel Deck: Elspeth vs. Kiora (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Mattao19 on November 01, 2014, 11:01:47 PM
I'm excited Kiora in foil is something I want a lot!!
Title: Re: Duel Deck: Elspeth vs. Kiora (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Spikepit on November 01, 2014, 11:15:22 PM
I'm glad the alt art is better than Emo Jace and Pedo Vraska too.
Title: Re: Duel Deck: Elspeth vs. Kiora (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: MuggyWuggy on November 02, 2014, 12:08:07 AM
Lets see the alt art for kiora, foils I assume also
Title: Re: Duel Deck: Elspeth vs. Kiora (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Kaworu, the Fifth Child on November 02, 2014, 12:23:57 AM
What kinda story are they doing for this? Makes no sense and story is my favorite part of the game.
Title: Re: Duel Deck: Elspeth vs. Kiora (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: The1337Magician on November 02, 2014, 12:24:55 AM
I'm highly surprised it wasn't Elspeth v. Xenagos, but then again that was all of Theros block.
Title: Re: Duel Deck: Elspeth vs. Kiora (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: xStrayKnightx on November 02, 2014, 01:10:24 AM
There's almost no point to this VS deck. Looks to me as if WotC are grasping at straws.
Title: Re: Duel Deck: Elspeth vs. Kiora (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Spikepit on November 02, 2014, 03:01:09 AM
I think they may rate it on the colours versus each other rather than solely the flavour. Look at Sorrin vs Tibalt, or Venser vs Koth, especially V vs K. A much better pairing if just flavour would have been Venser vs Tezzeret for that set, but {U} vs {U} wouldn't have been awesome.
Title: Re: Duel Deck: Elspeth vs. Kiora (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: rarehuntertay on November 02, 2014, 05:53:38 AM
Kiora and Elspeth had beef during Journey to Nyx.
Title: Re: Duel Deck: Elspeth vs. Kiora (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: cltrn81 on November 02, 2014, 05:57:05 AM
Cat fight!!!
πŸ˜ΎπŸ‘°
Title: Re: Duel Deck: Elspeth vs. Kiora (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: xStrayKnightx on November 02, 2014, 06:03:28 AM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on November 02, 2014, 05:53:38 AM
Kiora and Elspeth had beef during Journey to Nyx.
Really? I wasn't aware.
Title: Re: Duel Deck: Elspeth vs. Kiora (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Dudecore on November 02, 2014, 06:32:54 AM
I was informed that Kiora and Elspeth did scrap. Their differences were resolved as they assisted each other eventually.
Title: Re: Duel Deck: Elspeth vs. Kiora (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Spikepit on November 02, 2014, 06:55:51 AM
Same as Koth and Venser, so stand I corrected... I think?
Title: Re: Duel Deck: Elspeth vs. Kiora (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: The1337Magician on November 02, 2014, 09:52:50 AM
Basically they write a random fight between them so they can have a duel deck...
Title: Re: Duel Deck: Elspeth vs. Kiora (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: The1337Magician on November 02, 2014, 11:34:32 AM
Quote from: GlowackAttack on November 02, 2014, 10:02:53 AM
Does the flavor even really matter? I mean when i purchased Jace versus Vraska I wasn't all like.. "oh schnap guys I hope Jace kicks Vraska butt after I Crack open these new decks!!! I'm on the edge of my seat over here in anticipation!!!!"
^
Title: Re: Duel Deck: Elspeth vs. Kiora (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on November 02, 2014, 01:02:02 PM
Quote from: xStrayKnightx on November 02, 2014, 06:03:28 AM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on November 02, 2014, 05:53:38 AM
Kiora and Elspeth had beef during Journey to Nyx.
Really? I wasn't aware.
Yeah, Elspeth was trying to get to the edge of the world to talk to Kruphix and figure out how to get to Nyx, but Kiora kind of tricked them somehow.
Title: Re: Duel Deck: Elspeth vs. Kiora (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: LinkCelestrial on November 10, 2014, 12:29:57 PM
I think I'm going to have to buy a copy. Or two or three or four. I mean Elspeth and Kiora are pretty pricey and I wish playsets of both. Think it'll stay at MSRP? (Or whatever the abbreviation is.)
Title: Re: Duel Deck: Elspeth vs. Kiora (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: MuggyWuggy on November 10, 2014, 12:36:41 PM
Yeah bcuz target
Title: Re: Duel Deck: Elspeth vs. Kiora (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: LinkCelestrial on November 10, 2014, 12:41:45 PM
I'm Canadian. We just got Target. Looks like I'll be visiting there more often....
Title: Re: Duel Deck: Elspeth vs. Kiora (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: cltrn81 on November 10, 2014, 01:12:34 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on November 10, 2014, 12:29:57 PM
I think I'm going to have to buy a copy. Or two or three or four. I mean Elspeth and Kiora are pretty pricey and I wish playsets of both. Think it'll stay at MSRP? (Or whatever the abbreviation is.)
Both of those are primarily standard playable planeswalkers.  Elspeth is probably good in EDH and definitely fun in casual.  Kiora is fun in casual.

Neither are good in competitive eternal formats.

Long story short.....they will drop in price after rotation and now they will drop even more due to this reprint.
Title: Re: Duel Deck: Elspeth vs. Kiora (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: LinkCelestrial on November 10, 2014, 01:32:26 PM
Quote from: cltrn81 on November 10, 2014, 01:12:34 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on November 10, 2014, 12:29:57 PM
I think I'm going to have to buy a copy. Or two or three or four. I mean Elspeth and Kiora are pretty pricey and I wish playsets of both. Think it'll stay at MSRP? (Or whatever the abbreviation is.)
Both of those are primarily standard playable planeswalkers.  Elspeth is probably good in EDH and definitely fun in casual.  Kiora is fun in casual.

Neither are good in competitive eternal formats.

Long story short.....they will drop in price after rotation and now they will drop even more due to this reprint.

My main reason for wanting Elspeth is my Not Nasty Narset deck in which she'd be very helpful in keeping me alive. I'm also working on a casual control deck so she'd be nice there as well. As for Kiora I don't have immediate plans but she's a decent Planeswalker so I must have it.
Title: Re: Duel Deck: Elspeth vs. Kiora (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: MuggyWuggy on November 10, 2014, 01:58:24 PM
Kiora is badass. I love playing with her, if you can protect her, her land/draw is just as nice as her fog.

#BUGWALKERS
Title: Re: Duel Deck: Elspeth vs. Kiora (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Phoenix X30 on November 21, 2014, 11:01:40 PM
 {Path to Exile} 
{Godsend}
{Intangible Virtue} For the elspeth tokens
Title: Re: Duel Deck: Elspeth vs. Kiora (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Mattao19 on November 22, 2014, 11:59:29 AM
Will Elspeth basically be the modern event deck? With less expensive cards?

Like lingering a souls midnight haunting raise virtue honor?
Title: Re: Duel Deck: Elspeth vs. Kiora (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: MuggyWuggy on November 22, 2014, 02:31:52 PM
{Mobilization} would be great
Title: Re: Duel Deck: Elspeth vs. Kiora (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: MuggyWuggy on November 22, 2014, 04:07:53 PM
A control based token deck would be a great experience to create.

Along with kiora ramp/control.

I could on about potential cards. I figure any Kiora based cards will be in.

Title: Re: Duel Deck: Elspeth vs. Kiora (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Pi on November 24, 2014, 11:24:28 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on November 01, 2014, 11:01:47 PM
I'm excited Kiora in foil is something I want a lot!!
I bought a box of BNG, and the foil Kiora I pulled was what stopped me from going back for a refund. Then Wizards did this. The first world problems are piling up.
Title: Re: Duel Deck: Elspeth vs. Kiora (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: MuggyWuggy on November 25, 2014, 12:03:48 AM
Yeah for those of us kiora lovers, well there went her rareness due to BNG not being opened much
Title: Re: Duel Deck: Elspeth vs. Kiora (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Cender on November 25, 2014, 11:28:19 AM
I believe {Mobilization} was in the c14 white deck.
Title: Re: Duel Deck: Elspeth vs. Kiora (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Popper23345 on January 10, 2015, 02:43:28 PM
Any further news?

Also, {whelming wave} for kiora ?
{mass calcify} for elspeth ?
Title: Re: Duel Deck: Elspeth vs. Kiora (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Esper on January 12, 2015, 01:42:17 AM
^^ Agreed.
Title: Re: Duel Deck: Elspeth vs. Kiora (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: AstroGeek327 on January 18, 2015, 03:08:18 PM
This looks awesome!!! Pardon my noobishness, but can you use Planeswalkers from dueling decks in Standard? Elspeth is my favorite but none of her existing editions or whatever are legal :P
Title: Re: Duel Deck: Elspeth vs. Kiora (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Rass on January 18, 2015, 03:23:14 PM
Only if they are standard leagal.
Title: Re: Duel Deck: Elspeth vs. Kiora (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: griffin131 on January 18, 2015, 03:27:13 PM
Quote from: AstroGeek327 on January 18, 2015, 03:08:18 PM
This looks awesome!!! Pardon my noobishness, but can you use Planeswalkers from dueling decks in Standard? Elspeth is my favorite but none of her existing editions or whatever are legal :P
{Elspeth, the Sun's Champion} is standard legal.
Title: Re: Duel Deck: Elspeth vs. Kiora (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: AstroGeek327 on January 21, 2015, 02:09:57 AM
Really? I my friend lied then ;) I am officially going to go find one now, thanks for clearing that up!
Title: Re: Duel Deck: Elspeth vs. Kiora (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: imFourth of Phils on January 30, 2015, 12:25:56 PM
cant wait for the decklists
Title: Re: Duel Deck: Elspeth vs. Kiora (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Spikepit on January 31, 2015, 09:18:17 AM
I'm hanging out for a {Voidslime}... pretty much solely a Voidslime.
Title: Re: Duel Deck: Elspeth vs. Kiora (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: MuggyWuggy on January 31, 2015, 12:53:33 PM
Spoilers possibly after GP SJ hopefully
Title: Re: Duel Deck: Elspeth vs. Kiora (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on February 13, 2015, 11:19:53 AM
Decklists: https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10991251_795664733849725_7839116447682031022_n.jpg?oh=73119106519fec3c06683671df1ef6c6&oe=5591B18C&__gda__=1432323152_1454a519a7a2e3360a8ac17284c5a38a

Nothing special besides {Mother of Runes} and the planeswalkers.
Title: Re: Duel Deck: Elspeth vs. Kiora (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: MuggyWuggy on February 13, 2015, 01:10:29 PM
Retry argus?
Title: Re: Duel Deck: Elspeth vs. Kiora (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: rarehuntertay on February 13, 2015, 02:06:06 PM
I just looked at the pic of Kiora. I could imagine altering her with red hair and renaming her Ariel. Looks like she's swimming away from Ursela...
Title: Re: Duel Deck: Elspeth vs. Kiora (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Cender on February 13, 2015, 03:04:42 PM
http://mtgsalvation.gamepedia.com/Duel_Decks:_Elspeth_vs._Kiora

Deck list isn't exciting but I'll probably pick it up. Elspeth has a good base for a soldier tribal. And Kiora has some of the good beefy ramp targets.
Title: Re: Duel Deck: Elspeth vs. Kiora (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: MuggyWuggy on February 13, 2015, 03:14:21 PM
Pretty awful
Title: Re: Duel Deck: Elspeth vs. Kiora (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on February 13, 2015, 03:17:03 PM
Quote from: Taysby on February 13, 2015, 11:28:04 AM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on February 13, 2015, 11:19:53 AM
Decklists: https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10991251_795664733849725_7839116447682031022_n.jpg?oh=73119106519fec3c06683671df1ef6c6&oe=5591B18C&__gda__=1432323152_1454a519a7a2e3360a8ac17284c5a38a

Nothing special besides {Mother of Runes} and the planeswalkers.
that's the DD bolas and promo Ugin...
Oops, I thought I copied the link, may bad.
Title: Re: Duel Deck: Elspeth vs. Kiora (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: MuggyWuggy on February 13, 2015, 03:40:46 PM
So basically about a $30 value box (not counting adjusted pw price after this set is available)

Elspeth will drop to 10, kiora to 5

Jace vs vraska was much better for standard PWs
Title: Re: Duel Deck: Elspeth vs. Kiora (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Rass on February 13, 2015, 03:51:58 PM
Maybe get a few for cheap on eBay.
Title: Re: Duel Deck: Elspeth vs. Kiora (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: Spikepit on February 13, 2015, 06:11:31 PM
But ... {Voidslime} ...

(http://gif.co/oBa7.gif)
Title: Re: Duel Deck: Elspeth vs. Kiora (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: MuggyWuggy on February 13, 2015, 08:02:10 PM
Remand for last years PW duel deck was nice

I guess if you've been needing a mother of runes and accumulated knowledge its nice, but the decks just seem boring, rush with tokens before whelming wave?
Title: Re: Duel Deck: Elspeth vs. Kiora (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: the_intelligentleman on February 13, 2015, 11:40:51 PM
Quote from: Spikepit on February 13, 2015, 06:11:31 PM
But ... {Voidslime} ...

(http://gif.co/oBa7.gif)
Grrrrr only one karma per day grrrr
Title: Re: Duel Deck: Elspeth vs. Kiora (Spoilers and Speculation)
Post by: AstroGeek327 on February 13, 2015, 11:58:26 PM
Quote from: the_intelligentleman on February 13, 2015, 11:40:51 PM
Quote from: Spikepit on February 13, 2015, 06:11:31 PM
But ... {Voidslime} ...

(http://gif.co/oBa7.gif)
Grrrrr only one karma per day grrrr
Hahaha, I already took care of this for you ;)