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Title: Reprint Speculation
Post by: cltrn81 on October 10, 2014, 08:08:16 AM
So with more powerful cards to come in reprints.  What do you guys think of a {wasteland} reprint?  I do not believe it is on the reserve list.  On one hand I know it will shake the hell out of modern on the other hand won't modern just become too much like Legacy at that point?
Title: Re: Reprint Speculation
Post by: Dudecore on October 10, 2014, 08:17:13 AM
I just don't see it. Maybe in supplemental product. I don't think land destruction is a thing wizards wants anymore. Although it would give a boost to mono colored decks and take the greedy mana bases away.
Title: Re: Reprint Speculation
Post by: The1337Magician on October 10, 2014, 08:22:24 AM
Quote from: Dudecore on October 10, 2014, 08:17:13 AM
I just don't see it. Maybe in supplemental product. I don't think land destruction is a thing wizards wants anymore. Although it would give a boost to mono colored decks and take the greedy mana bases away.
Land Destruction still a thing, but it isn't as easy
{Demolish}
{Desecration Plague}
{Peak Eruption}
{Spiteful Blow}
Title: Re: Reprint Speculation
Post by: rarehuntertay on October 10, 2014, 08:49:51 AM
Quote from: cltrn81 on October 10, 2014, 08:08:16 AM
So with more powerful cards to come in reprints.  What do you guys think of a {wasteland} reprint?  I do not believe it is on the reserve list.  On one hand I know it will shake the hell out of modern on the other hand won't modern just become too much like Legacy at that point?
Possible. Is not on Reserved List did to being Uncommon. Only Rares are on the list. That said, it's possible though highly unlikely.
Title: Re: Reprint Speculation
Post by: Mattao19 on October 10, 2014, 10:57:10 AM
For Modern they printed {Wasteland}

It's called {Tectonic Edge} and {Ghost Quarter} I'm pretty sure that's about as close as we will see ever for Modern
Title: Re: Reprint Speculation
Post by: cltrn81 on October 10, 2014, 12:14:08 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on October 10, 2014, 10:57:10 AM
For Modern they printed {Wasteland}

It's called {Tectonic Edge} and {Ghost Quarter} I'm pretty sure that's about as close as we will see ever for Modern
We know the alternatives.  Thank you Mr. Obvious 😜
Title: Re: Reprint Speculation
Post by: ihasfrozen on October 10, 2014, 12:33:25 PM
Wasteland wouldn't turn modern into legacy. I think it would be good for the format, punish the stupid goodstuff decks a little bit.

I don't think it will be reprinted in a modern/standard legal set, most likely just another judge foil if they really want to. Price/supply isn't really a problem with it, so there probably is little need in wotc's mind.
Title: Re: Reprint Speculation
Post by: rarehuntertay on October 10, 2014, 01:35:17 PM
Quote from: ihasfrozen on October 10, 2014, 12:33:25 PM
Wasteland wouldn't turn modern into legacy. I think it would be good for the format, punish the stupid goodstuff decks a little bit.

I don't think it will be reprinted in a modern/standard legal set, most likely just another judge foil if they really want to. Price/supply isn't really a problem with it, so there probably is little need in wotc's mind.
They wouldn't double up on a judge foil. It already has a judge foil printing
Title: Re: Reprint Speculation
Post by: particle on October 10, 2014, 01:47:48 PM
{stripmine} in modern?!?!
Title: Re: Reprint Speculation
Post by: MuggyWuggy on October 10, 2014, 01:55:05 PM
Yes please

No reserved list = anything is possible!
Title: Re: Reprint Speculation
Post by: MuggyWuggy on October 10, 2014, 01:55:21 PM
Most likely during a slump in sales
Title: Re: Reprint Speculation
Post by: Mattao19 on October 10, 2014, 05:19:29 PM
Quote from: cltrn81 on October 10, 2014, 12:14:08 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on October 10, 2014, 10:57:10 AM
For Modern they printed {Wasteland}

It's called {Tectonic Edge} and {Ghost Quarter} I'm pretty sure that's about as close as we will see ever for Modern
We know the alternatives.  Thank you Mr. Obvious 😜

Lol :P but I mean that somebody from WotC said that these would be the closest we get for wasteland options
Title: Re: Reprint Speculation
Post by: ihasfrozen on October 10, 2014, 09:16:01 PM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on October 10, 2014, 01:35:17 PM
Quote from: ihasfrozen on October 10, 2014, 12:33:25 PM
Wasteland wouldn't turn modern into legacy. I think it would be good for the format, punish the stupid goodstuff decks a little bit.

I don't think it will be reprinted in a modern/standard legal set, most likely just another judge foil if they really want to. Price/supply isn't really a problem with it, so there probably is little need in wotc's mind.
They wouldn't double up on a judge foil. It already has a judge foil printing

They have previously with {Vindicate}.
Title: Re: Reprint Speculation
Post by: rarehuntertay on October 10, 2014, 10:44:40 PM
Quote from: ihasfrozen on October 10, 2014, 09:16:01 PM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on October 10, 2014, 01:35:17 PM
Quote from: ihasfrozen on October 10, 2014, 12:33:25 PM
Wasteland wouldn't turn modern into legacy. I think it would be good for the format, punish the stupid goodstuff decks a little bit.

I don't think it will be reprinted in a modern/standard legal set, most likely just another judge foil if they really want to. Price/supply isn't really a problem with it, so there probably is little need in wotc's mind.
They wouldn't double up on a judge foil. It already has a judge foil printing

They have previously with {Vindicate}.
Well, slap me around and call me silly then. I stand corrected. Maybe they could then...
Title: Re: Reprint Speculation
Post by: gtfotis on October 10, 2014, 10:47:11 PM
They better not, I traded for my playset already 😭
Title: Re: Reprint Speculation
Post by: MuggyWuggy on October 10, 2014, 10:51:39 PM
Lets all ask falcon how he felt about the onslaught fetch reprints
Title: Re: Reprint Speculation
Post by: Falcon182 on October 10, 2014, 11:50:38 PM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on October 10, 2014, 10:51:39 PM
Lets all ask falcon how he felt about the onslaught fetch reprints

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Title: Re: Reprint Speculation
Post by: cltrn81 on October 11, 2014, 08:15:58 AM
So most people agree {wasteland} is probably not in the cards for a standard reprint.  What about some powerful creatures?  Choose one and give a reason why or why not.

{vendilion clique}
{shardless agent}
{mother of runes}
{goblin piledriver}
{dark confidant}
Title: Re: Reprint Speculation
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on October 11, 2014, 08:22:23 AM
So most people agree {wasteland} is probably not in the cards for a standard reprint.  What about some powerful creatures?  Choose one and give a reason why or why not.

{vendilion clique}-In the right environment, very reasonable
{shardless agent}-Cascade is probably the biggest barrier, they'd have to put cascade in the whole set
{mother of runes}-Likely too powerful
{goblin piledriver}-Probably too powerful, but WoTC could do it as long there weren't any other good goblins in standard
{dark confidant}-Very reasonable, although RB Aggro/Burn might be put over the top in the right environment.
Title: Re: Reprint Speculation
Post by: Tabooist on October 11, 2014, 09:16:09 AM
Mother of runes reprinted while jeskai ascendancy is in standard would be horrible I think.. Awesome for those that use it but I can already picture some abuse..
Title: Re: Reprint Speculation
Post by: Ekann1 on October 11, 2014, 12:15:29 PM
We're not getting goblin pile driver and goblin rabble master in the same standard format, even though that would be hilarious...
Title: Re: Reprint Speculation
Post by: Mattao19 on October 11, 2014, 01:03:33 PM
Quote from: cltrn81 on October 11, 2014, 08:15:58 AM
So most people agree {wasteland} is probably not in the cards for a standard reprint.  What about some powerful creatures?  Choose one and give a reason why or why not.

{vendilion clique}
{shardless agent}
{mother of runes}
{goblin piledriver}
{dark confidant}

I can see Clique back in std that's about it. Unless they do a cascade block/set then Agent can return.

Runes is way too OP for std (even though I really wanna tap dat milf :P lol)

Bob I think is too OP but I might be wrong bc they tried a weaker Bob in {Pain Seer} and that other one from RtR block and neither saw play. So maybe Bob isn't too OP

If pile driver and rabble are in the same std set red would be insane lol so maybe driver sometime post M15
Title: Re: Reprint Speculation
Post by: MuggyWuggy on October 11, 2014, 05:30:40 PM
I feel since we just saw MM ; items in that won't be reprinted for at least another 5 years
Title: Re: Reprint Speculation
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on October 11, 2014, 05:36:49 PM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on October 11, 2014, 05:30:40 PM
I feel since we just saw MM ; items in that won't be reprinted for at least another 5 years
IDK, I can definitely see {Dark Confidant}, {Tarmogoyf}, {Cryptic Command}, and {Vendilion Clique} all getting reprints soon, simply for price control.
Title: Re: Reprint Speculation
Post by: Mattao19 on October 11, 2014, 05:51:24 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on October 11, 2014, 05:36:49 PM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on October 11, 2014, 05:30:40 PM
I feel since we just saw MM ; items in that won't be reprinted for at least another 5 years
IDK, I can definitely see {Dark Confidant}, {Tarmogoyf}, {Cryptic Command}, and {Vendilion Clique} all getting reprints soon, simply for price control.

Ya agreed especially Tarmogoyf. Except not with fetches in standard. Cryptic might be too strong for std though
Title: Re: Reprint Speculation
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on October 11, 2014, 08:31:25 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on October 11, 2014, 05:51:24 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on October 11, 2014, 05:36:49 PM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on October 11, 2014, 05:30:40 PM
I feel since we just saw MM ; items in that won't be reprinted for at least another 5 years
IDK, I can definitely see {Dark Confidant}, {Tarmogoyf}, {Cryptic Command}, and {Vendilion Clique} all getting reprints soon, simply for price control.

Ya agreed especially Tarmogoyf. Except not with fetches in standard. Cryptic might be too strong for std though
I'm saying in general, not necessarily in standard, but yeah, I agree with your assessment.
Title: Re: Reprint Speculation
Post by: Dudecore on October 11, 2014, 08:35:52 PM
{Liliana of the Veil} promo reprint for Regional PTQ participation