if I {martial coup} (X=25) with {mana echoes} on the field, how much colorless mana do I get?
Wouldn't it be 25x24 since they see each other creature and wouldn't count themselves?
Quote from: Falcon182 on October 07, 2014, 02:36:51 PM
Wouldn't it be 25x24 since they see each other creature and wouldn't count themselves?
Sounds right.
That's what ishappening! I have {marath, Will of the Wild} Token Edh deck, and wanted to check on synergies. :D
Taysby's original calculation was right, though the term 'sees each other entering' is slightly wrong. When they enter, Mana Echoes triggers that many times. Then when each trigger resolves, you'll net 25 colorless, it'll count the creatures. Since you control a total of 25 creature that share a type with the one that entered (yes, this includes the one that triggered it, because it doesn't say 'other'). Of course, this could be interrupted with something like {Echoing Truth} or {Cyclonic Rift}, since the creatures are counted on resolution.
Quote from: Remillo on October 08, 2014, 11:34:03 PM
Taysby's original calculation was right, though the term 'sees each other entering' is slightly wrong. When they enter, Mana Echoes triggers that many times. Then when each trigger resolves, you'll net 25 colorless, it'll count the creatures. Since you control a total of 25 creature that share a type with the one that entered (yes, this includes the one that triggered it, because it doesn't say 'other'). Of course, this could be interrupted with something like {Echoing Truth} or {Cyclonic Rift}, since the creatures are counted on resolution.
Oh, I reds it wrong too. Haha