So I'm trying to decide between building a {Narset, Enlightened Mentor} voltron/aura deck, or a mean combo deck. I'm leaning towards the combo version, but I need more ideas than {omniscience} + {past in flames} {grapeshot} + stuff.
That's where you guys come in. Combo ideas, go! (I prefer creatureless to be able to stack my deck with {proteus staff} but any help is appreciated. Looking at you {{gorzo}} ;) )
Quote from: E.kann1 on October 06, 2014, 09:14:38 PM
So I'm trying to decide between building a {Narset, Enlightened Mentor} voltron/aura deck, or a mean combo deck. I'm leaning towards the combo version, but I need more ideas than {omniscience} + {past in flames} {grapeshot} + stuff.
That's where you guys come in. Combo ideas, go! (I prefer creatureless to be able to stack my deck with {proteus staff} but any help is appreciated. Looking at you {{gorzo}} ;) )
Well just find Legacy Omnitell.
{Time Stretch} {Time Warp} {Enter the Infinite} {Fury of the Horde} {Karn Liberated} {Eldrazi Conscription} {Searing Wind} {Control Magic} so much more
I need a list of tutors that put cards on top of my library... Ideas? So far
{long term plans}
{enlightened tutor}
{mystical tutor}
Quote from: E.kann1 on October 07, 2014, 08:54:58 PM
I need a list of tutors that put cards on top of my library... Ideas? So far
{long term plans}
{enlightened tutor}
{mystical tutor}
{SCROLL FREAKING RACK}.
Quote from: Thetrufflehunter on October 07, 2014, 09:04:46 PM
Quote from: E.kann1 on October 07, 2014, 08:54:58 PM
I need a list of tutors that put cards on top of my library... Ideas? So far
{long term plans}
{enlightened tutor}
{mystical tutor}
{SCROLL FREAKING RACK}.
I meant cards that search some thing up, but that definitely will be in there. :)
I made a version of Narset combo and after playing it a bit I feel fairly certain that Narset will be banned in EDH. Consistent turn 3 wins in EDH are frowned upon. It's fun to pilot, but there isn't much interaction with your opponents haha :)
Quote from: Moneekahh on October 09, 2014, 11:08:42 PM
I made a version of Narset combo and after playing it a bit I feel fairly certain that Narset will be banned in EDH. Consistent turn 3 wins in EDH are frowned upon. It's fun to pilot, but there isn't much interaction with your opponents haha :)
Lol there is no way she produces "consistent turn 3 wins"...Even if you're playing in one of the most casual play groups on earth. I'm sure she gets some nasty wins but let's be real here haha
Quote from: Gocougs509 on October 09, 2014, 11:16:29 PM
Quote from: Moneekahh on October 09, 2014, 11:08:42 PM
I made a version of Narset combo and after playing it a bit I feel fairly certain that Narset will be banned in EDH. Consistent turn 3 wins in EDH are frowned upon. It's fun to pilot, but there isn't much interaction with your opponents haha :)
Lol there is no way she produces "consistent turn 3 wins"...Even if you're playing in one of the most casual play groups on earth. I'm sure she gets some nasty wins but let's be real here haha
I promise. Playing 1v1 against other competitive decks. I haven't played it in a group setting here. It's totally degenerate. I have no reason to exaggerate. You can ask my husband as he's the one who feels the burn. Lol
The only time this creature doesn't kill on her first attack is if my mana is f'd. Actually I guess turn 3-4 win is more honest. Maybe I've just been incredibly lucky? I tend to think its just a broken deck.
Quote from: Moneekahh on October 09, 2014, 11:19:14 PM
Quote from: Gocougs509 on October 09, 2014, 11:16:29 PM
Quote from: Moneekahh on October 09, 2014, 11:08:42 PM
I made a version of Narset combo and after playing it a bit I feel fairly certain that Narset will be banned in EDH. Consistent turn 3 wins in EDH are frowned upon. It's fun to pilot, but there isn't much interaction with your opponents haha :)
Lol there is no way she produces "consistent turn 3 wins"...Even if you're playing in one of the most casual play groups on earth. I'm sure she gets some nasty wins but let's be real here haha
I promise. Playing 1v1 against other competitive decks. I haven't played it in a group setting here. It's totally degenerate. I have no reason to exaggerate. You can ask my husband as he's the one who feels the burn. Lol
The only time this creature doesn't kill on her first attack is if my mana is f'd. Actually I guess turn 3-4 win is more honest. Maybe I've just been incredibly lucky? I tend to think its just a broken deck.
Ahhh I didn't know you were talking about 1v1. That's actually believable. I mean, the mistalker had been doing that for a while now so I doubt she'd get banned :p
Could I see a list/just a few of the combos for that, very interested about t3 wins....
Hi everyone, been a while, nice to be back, yada yada yada...
Narset will be banned. Hands down 100% believe this.
I also play an amazingly degenerate T2-4 deck... Uril the mistakes isn't even close to being in the same league here, I am talking about casting Narset and attacking with her before most people play cultivate...
And triggering either an infinite loop, or an auto win that has never failed to happen... Not once in probably 200 games.
I work at a game shop, I play Duel Commander very competitively against tier 1 decks with competent pilots, this deck wrecks that meta.
Even multiplayer this deck has yet to be beat, even when the table announced it was "archenemy" because I was playing "that F#%&@¥€! Deck"
Quote from: Arzair on October 10, 2014, 12:40:46 AM
Hi everyone, been a while, nice to be back, yada yada yada...
Narset will be banned. Hands down 100% believe this.
I also play an amazingly degenerate T2-4 deck... Uril the mistakes isn't even close to being in the same league here, I am talking about casting Narset and attacking with her before most people play cultivate...
And triggering either an infinite loop, or an auto win that has never failed to happen... Not once in probably 200 games.
I work at a game shop, I play Duel Commander very competitively against tier 1 decks with competent pilots, this deck wrecks that meta.
Even multiplayer this deck has yet to be beat, even when the table announced it was "archenemy" because I was playing "that F#%&@¥€! Deck"
You consistently cast her, set up the top of your deck, and swing with her before most people play their {cultivate}?
Lol yeah sure let's see this decklist
Quote from: Arzair on October 10, 2014, 12:40:46 AM
Hi everyone, been a while, nice to be back, yada yada yada...
Narset will be banned. Hands down 100% believe this.
I also play an amazingly degenerate T2-4 deck... Uril the mistakes isn't even close to being in the same league here, I am talking about casting Narset and attacking with her before most people play cultivate...
And triggering either an infinite loop, or an auto win that has never failed to happen... Not once in probably 200 games.
I work at a game shop, I play Duel Commander very competitively against tier 1 decks with competent pilots, this deck wrecks that meta.
Even multiplayer this deck has yet to be beat, even when the table announced it was "archenemy" because I was playing "that F#%&@¥€! Deck"
I'm sorry, but 200 games...? If you're being real about that, I would love to see this unstoppable deck list and how it's been unstoppable in 200+ games. Does no one run counter spells in your meta, or have any instant speed answer to narset ever?
Quote from: JordanCirk on October 10, 2014, 01:52:04 AM
Quote from: Arzair on October 10, 2014, 12:40:46 AM
Hi everyone, been a while, nice to be back, yada yada yada...
Narset will be banned. Hands down 100% believe this.
I also play an amazingly degenerate T2-4 deck... Uril the mistakes isn't even close to being in the same league here, I am talking about casting Narset and attacking with her before most people play cultivate...
And triggering either an infinite loop, or an auto win that has never failed to happen... Not once in probably 200 games.
I work at a game shop, I play Duel Commander very competitively against tier 1 decks with competent pilots, this deck wrecks that meta.
Even multiplayer this deck has yet to be beat, even when the table announced it was "archenemy" because I was playing "that F#%&@¥€! Deck"
I'm sorry, but 200 games...? If you're being real about that, I would love to see this unstoppable deck list and how it's been unstoppable in 200+ games. Does no one run counter spells in your meta, or have any instant speed answer to narset ever?
Lol for real though...I think she was exaggering ever so slightly
You'd think she was exaggerating but I'm pretty sure she's not. The only place that Narset is not horrendously broken is in my Chaos deck. Everywhere else she destroys everyone on t3-5. The deck is insane
When the entire deck is based around casting her as soon as possible, with haste, and giving her additional combat phases and extra turns, it's not that hard.
Ask lolrus about the times I've beat him to the ground with this deck on t2. 😂
Oh and I also run an Uril deck. The t3-4 wins with him are in a different realm. In almost every Narset game I've won, I'd likely be able to beat an entire table full of opponents. Will post decklist soon.
Mon, Azair, I'm really interested in seeing both your deck lists, as I'm sure E.kann1 is too! I believe both your statements that this tricky monk can win early, considering extra turns spells, copying spells, doubling damage spells, she's two thirds Izzit after all! So I'd like to see how to do her right (my level of maturity struggled after writing that).
For a second page reference:
{Narset, Enlightened Master}
Even just some important cards from the deck would be nice :)
I am not exaggerating with how many times this deck has won. I stated earlier that I play in a very competitive meta, where mana crypts, force of wills and wastelands are considered common. I can assure you that the threat of a turn 3 Narset swinging is very real, the entire deck runs more rock ramp than arcum dagsun, and every almost every single possible extra turn effect and combat effect in the game. I do not have to tutor the win to the top to win, just an example that I used earlier. The deck is not fair, she will 100% be banned in 1v1.
The 200 + games I have been able to begin taking extra turns and extra swings! which nets more and more value off Narset. With one swing, for example we could flip, time warp, savage beating, (mana rock) , land... Take an extra turn after this, yes please, and another combat, ok, Narset swings... Trigger, Flip, land, land, reverberate, (mana rock) .... So here is the thing, we can cast spells exiled by her until end of turn, so reverberate the time warp... Do you see where this goes? The deck has 2 - 3 ways of "buffing" Narset, but mostly the death is by 3 point chunks of commander damage, in an unstoppable chain that has people either really excited, or really upset.
I am loathe to share my personal deck list for what should be obvious reasons. Monica and I have chatted elsewhere about this deck and we both started with the same TCG build, although I believe we both have made edits and personal calls regarding card choices.
I have no reason to lie to you, or to exaggerate, it is simply disgusting.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/31-08-14-MGd-narset-enlightened-master/
This is the build we both worked off of. :)
Do you guys run creatures or creature less with proteus staff combo?
Wow, just tested this. insane, once i got it to go off.... WOW.
Holy cow! Just had a play test, wowee! Imma make it too BUT outta what I got already because my wallet is malnourished.
Just got on here to print the decklist so I can trade for the parts of it I need at my draft....
One problem I was having in playtest was attacking into big creatures with Narset... thoughts/ideas?
Quote from: E.kann1 on October 11, 2014, 12:03:13 PM
Just got on here to print the decklist so I can trade for the parts of it I need at my draft....
One problem I was having in playtest was attacking into big creatures with Narset... thoughts/ideas?
Swords to Plowshares, pathe to exile, sleep. Anything that taps it or gets rid of it
Oay, so now that you guys / gals have played around with the tapped out commander theory one, can you imagine how with WAY too much time on my hands I could make the deck I was telling you I have? ;)
Quote from: Arzair on October 10, 2014, 06:37:03 PM
I am loathe to share my personal deck list for what should be obvious reasons.
Trying not to be rude here, but I don't understand any of these obvious reasons. Guess they're not so obvious for me :P
Would you mind explaining a bit more? I'm curious as to why.
Also, do you play partial mulligans? Because that would explain the t2 wins, in testing I've found it hard to play Narset before t4, or t3 with a really good hand.
I do play with Partial Paris Mulligans.👍
Absolutely, I will explain my desire to not share the decklist and why I feel this should be obvious.
Cut throat Tournament Pod style Commander is also no stranger to me, although I do not believe this format will ever see DCI support.
I 100% believe that very soon the DCI with help from WOTC will acknowledge and support the validity of Duel Commander.
{Narset, the Enlightened Master} is my 1v1 general.
I asked months ago, if Piotr would start a Duel Commander Section. perhaps back then you would have seen my pre ban Derevi list, or before that my pre ban Edric list. I know Duel Commander. However I have been and might continue to be absent from here for a while due to personal reasons.
Cut throat 😂
Quote from: Moneekahh on October 10, 2014, 11:07:04 AM
Oh and I also run an Uril deck. The t3-4 wins with him are in a different realm. In almost every Narset game I've won, I'd likely be able to beat an entire table full of opponents. Will post decklist soon.
Can you post your Uril list?
So let me get this right, {Narset, Enlightened Master} can come down T3 and swing then hit infinite turns consistently? How? I'm not seeing 6 mana + haste then enough spells to always hit more turns...I've gotta see turn by turn games to get this.
Whatever the case my Narset deck clearly sucks...
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on October 15, 2014, 05:12:15 PM
So let me get this right, {Narset, Enlightened Master} can come down T3 and swing then hit infinite turns consistently? How? I'm not seeing 6 mana + haste then enough spells to always hit more turns...I've gotta see turn by turn games to get this.
Whatever the case my Narset deck clearly sucks...
You'd need an extremely good hand to play her t3, but partial paris mulligans do a lot of work. So do {Sol Ring}s.
Try testing with this list a bit, t4-5 is not too difficult at all.
tappedout.ne.....ened-master/
Keep in mind that if you flip a {reverberate} effect and an extra combat effect, you can wait on the reverberate till you hit a {time warp} in your second combat.
Okay that's insane. It also makes my Narset deck look really, really bad. And my playgroup already hates it...