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Magic (The Gathering) => Rules => Topic started by: Falcon182 on September 22, 2014, 01:06:16 PM

Title: Thoughtseize + target
Post by: Falcon182 on September 22, 2014, 01:06:16 PM
Do I choose a target when I cast  {Thoughtseize} or after it resolves?
Title: Re: Thoughtseize + target
Post by: Pleeb on September 22, 2014, 01:38:33 PM
You choose a player when you cast thought seize. After it resolves you look at their hand and choose a card then.
Title: Re: Thoughtseize + target
Post by: Remillo on September 22, 2014, 01:55:38 PM
To clarify -

You target the player when you cast it, like you would with anything else that targets.
At no point are you ever targeting a card in their hand.  You're just choosing one after they reveal.
Title: Re: Thoughtseize + target
Post by: Falcon182 on September 22, 2014, 02:09:39 PM
Cool. Thanks!
Title: Re: Thoughtseize + target
Post by: Rass on September 23, 2014, 01:14:06 PM
Quote from: Remillo on September 22, 2014, 01:55:38 PM
To clarify -

You target the player when you cast it, like you would with anything else that targets.
At no point are you ever targeting a card in their hand.  You're just choosing one after they reveal.

So what if they choose an instant. We will use  {Lightning Bolt} . Could I cast the bolt and make the  {Thoughtseize} Fizzle
Title: Re: Thoughtseize + target
Post by: Pleeb on September 23, 2014, 01:21:53 PM
This is where I think you're going with this question:  they cast thought seize targeting you and you only have lightning bolt in your hand. In response you cast your lightning bolt and now have an empty hand. You are still a player and thus a legal target when thought seize resolves, so it doesn't fiZzle. He gets to look at your empty hand, choose a non-existant card and lose two life.

If that isn't what you meant please rephrase your question.
Title: Re: Thoughtseize + target
Post by: MuggyWuggy on September 25, 2014, 11:00:03 PM
Or you use have a flash in aegis of the gods and their spell can fizzle as you will no longer be a legal target
Title: Re: Thoughtseize + target
Post by: Pleeb on September 26, 2014, 01:17:30 PM
{aegis of the gods}