Is it just be lately or has the top charts are becoming really weird. Examples, anaconda, bang bang, boom clap etc
Pop culture has a clear obsession with sex. No surprise that the same obsession is in pop music as well.
It's called getting older
Quote from: Taysby on September 16, 2014, 07:18:38 PM
I don't want pop unless it's got buns hun! ;)
Lord Voldemort's anaconda don't want none unless you've got the location of Harry potter son
I actually haven't found a glaring with bang bang. Manaj wasn't that bad in this, Grande's nasal voice wasn't so prominent, and Jessie J did good. Does it deserve to be at the top, probably not. But in comparison to what we have in pop right now, it's good. Anaconda is popular because of... Reasons... I can't listen to it personally. It's probably popular due to its soundbyte from Baby Got Back.
During this time for pop, there actually some great artists. Such as Sam Smith, Meghan Trainor, (think I spelled that wrong) (and she just released 3 new songs, and 2 of them are pretty good :)) ) One Republic, and although Maroon 5 isn't as good as it used to be, it's still pretty good.
Pop as a whole has an iffy history at best. This is just one of those iffy points in it.
I concur, and this is probably one reason that I don't listen to pop music, besides the point that I simply dislike the sound of most of it.
I'm not saying that what I listen to isn't weird, because it certainly is. It's just is not pop music.
French électro-swing, Classical, Postmodern geek-rock, EDM, trip-hop, and a little too much Weird Al will do that to you though.
The sex-oriented theme in pop music and culture is by no means recent btw, i mean look at this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPrnduGtgmc
Pop music has been complete crap for a while now, in fact I wouldn't even classify it as music
Quote from: IceScythe on September 18, 2014, 09:12:20 PM
i mean look at this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPrnduGtgmc
Mmmmm, my ding ding dong. Hahaha that .loving. song.
Seriously though, pop is pretty odd now. I've heard a lot of metal that is way cleaner than a lot of pop. It's all about sex and (generally) drugs/alcohol. And people say violent video games are a bad influence on kids :P
Quote from: Silent1236 on September 19, 2014, 01:43:00 PM
Quote from: IceScythe on September 18, 2014, 09:12:20 PM
i mean look at this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPrnduGtgmc
Mmmmm, my ding ding dong. Hahaha that .loving. song.
Seriously though, pop is pretty odd now. I've heard a lot of metal that is way cleaner than a lot of pop. It's all about sex and (generally) drugs/alcohol. And people say violent video games are a bad influence on kids :P
Lol that song indeed.
Yeah, it's a pretty horrible influence. Did you know the average age of a child seeing their first pornographic image now is EIGHT? Wtf.
Violent video games can be a really bad influence, too, but at least those have a well-established age rating system. It's a shame it gets ignored by so many parents. It really bothers me when I encounter 10 year olds on the very-much-M-rated games I play due to their graphic or realistic violence, and they're on the mic screaming words that I won't even use as a 30 year old who can cuss like a sailor at times. Where are their parents?
All music gets is that "parental advisory" warning box in the corner of CD cases (like kids even buy CDs anymore) that says nothing about the content - maybe the album says "ass" once. Maybe every song is about snorting coke while shooting police and engaging in necrophilia. Same label either way.
Quote from: Gorzo on September 19, 2014, 02:52:04 PM
Quote from: Silent1236 on September 19, 2014, 01:43:00 PM
Quote from: IceScythe on September 18, 2014, 09:12:20 PM
i mean look at this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPrnduGtgmc
Mmmmm, my ding ding dong. Hahaha that .loving. song.
Seriously though, pop is pretty odd now. I've heard a lot of metal that is way cleaner than a lot of pop. It's all about sex and (generally) drugs/alcohol. And people say violent video games are a bad influence on kids :P
Lol that song indeed.
Yeah, it's a pretty horrible influence. Did you know the average age of a child seeing their first pornographic image now is EIGHT? Wtf.
Violent video games can be a really bad influence, too, but at least those have a well-established age rating system. It's a shame it gets ignored by so many parents. It really bothers me when I encounter 10 year olds on the very-much-M-rated games I play due to their graphic or realistic violence, and they're on the mic screaming words that I won't even use as a 30 year old who can cuss like a sailor at times. Where are their parents?
All music gets is that "parental advisory" warning box in the corner of CD cases (like kids even buy CDs anymore) that says nothing about the content - maybe the album says "ass" once. Maybe every song is about snorting coke while shooting police and engaging in necrophilia. Same label either way.
WHAT? It was 11 when I was growing up!
And yes, parents should filter what their children watch and listen to. ESRB ratings are not what the decisions should be based on. it is not hard to find footage of gameplay and evaluate your child's level of maturity and determine whether it would be harmless fun or a bad influence. EX: a child of 13 playing Halo, which is M, is quite different from a child of 10 playing Call of Duty.
Quote from: IceScythe on September 19, 2014, 03:06:10 PM
EX: a child of 13 playing Halo, which is M, is quite different from a child of 10 playing Call of Duty.
Keep in mind that the ESRB can not rate online experiences haha. The kids playing CoD are ridiculous, and that is coming from my very vulgar self.
Alternative/Pop Electric Pop and Pop/Rock is where a lot of good modern artists and bands are. Example:
Justin Timberlake
The 1975
Bad Suns
Young the Giant
Capitol Cities
Neon Trees
Foster the People
Macklemore (his real stuff, not Thrift shop)
Fall out boy
Stuff like that I think is actually some of the best stuff ever really IMHO. Sure, a lot of classics are great, but those bands/artists are leading the underground movement (except JT). They're innovating modern chord structures, leading the teenage movement, and all around great successors to previous very good bands such as Incubus. Of course I'm biased to this music, but looked at logically, they are innovative and inspiring the younger generation.
I dislike stuff like Minaj and Grande. I respect it, but they aren't writing their own stuff. All the bands I listed do. And JT, Neon Trees, Bad Suns, the 1975, fall out and foster all see air time.
Personally I think once Minaj, Grande, and artists like that expire from the music industry, we will be moving into a new golden age in music. I strongly believe music is moving into one of the best phases ever, once the underground truly surfaces
Quote from: DylanW18 on September 19, 2014, 03:10:24 PM
Personally I think once Minaj, Grande, and artists like that expire from the music industry, we will be moving into a new golden age in music. I strongly believe music is moving into one of the best phases ever, once the underground truly surfaces
I don't know that we'll ever be rid of "artists" like that. Maybe Minaj goes away, but then someone like Iggy Azalea or something will rise to Minaj popularity. There's always going to be the trashy pop like that, I'd imagine. There may be a few that stand out as being better (in terms of morality) than the rest, but I'm under the impression that the genre as a whole won't change that much. Sex and drugs are, and always have been, huge influences in music in general.
Quote from: Silent1236 on September 19, 2014, 03:15:23 PM
Quote from: DylanW18 on September 19, 2014, 03:10:24 PM
Personally I think once Minaj, Grande, and artists like that expire from the music industry, we will be moving into a new golden age in music. I strongly believe music is moving into one of the best phases ever, once the underground truly surfaces
I don't know that we'll ever be rid of "artists" like that. Maybe Minaj goes away, but then someone like Iggy Azalea or something will rise to Minaj popularity. There's always going to be the trashy pop like that, I'd imagine. There may be a few that stand out as being better (in terms of morality) than the rest, but I'm under the impression that the genre as a whole won't change that much. Sex and drugs are, and always have been, huge influences in music in general.
True, there will always be a replacement unfortunately
Sex and more often drugs have always had influence as you said. That's what a lot of people don't think about. We praise the "classics" whereas those songs were most likely just as bad. I think the only thing that's changed is the bluntness of the statement, for example, sex. What about Van Halens "Hot for teacher"? He is talking about doing her. But today's music would say the same thing, just much more vulgar. Personally nothing's changed besides what the adjectives are
Quote from: Gorzo on September 19, 2014, 02:52:04 PM
Quote from: Silent1236 on September 19, 2014, 01:43:00 PM
Quote from: IceScythe on September 18, 2014, 09:12:20 PM
i mean look at this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPrnduGtgmc
Mmmmm, my ding ding dong. Hahaha that .loving. song.
Seriously though, pop is pretty odd now. I've heard a lot of metal that is way cleaner than a lot of pop. It's all about sex and (generally) drugs/alcohol. And people say violent video games are a bad influence on kids :P
Lol that song indeed.
Yeah, it's a pretty horrible influence. Did you know the average age of a child seeing their first pornographic image now is EIGHT? Wtf.
Violent video games can be a really bad influence, too, but at least those have a well-established age rating system. It's a shame it gets ignored by so many parents. It really bothers me when I encounter 10 year olds on the very-much-M-rated games I play due to their graphic or realistic violence, and they're on the mic screaming words that I won't even use as a 30 year old who can cuss like a sailor at times. Where are their parents?
All music gets is that "parental advisory" warning box in the corner of CD cases (like kids even buy CDs anymore) that says nothing about the content - maybe the album says "ass" once. Maybe every song is about snorting coke while shooting police and engaging in necrophilia. Same label either way.
Because you said this, I would like to point out many studies have been conducted to see if video games (especially violent) had a negative impact. Almost all of the studies have shown, that the games had no effect on the childs' mental health, and they acted the same as the people who hadn't played the games.
Quote from: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on September 19, 2014, 06:31:13 PM
Quote from: Gorzo on September 19, 2014, 02:52:04 PM
Quote from: Silent1236 on September 19, 2014, 01:43:00 PM
Quote from: IceScythe on September 18, 2014, 09:12:20 PM
i mean look at this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPrnduGtgmc
Mmmmm, my ding ding dong. Hahaha that .loving. song.
Seriously though, pop is pretty odd now. I've heard a lot of metal that is way cleaner than a lot of pop. It's all about sex and (generally) drugs/alcohol. And people say violent video games are a bad influence on kids :P
Lol that song indeed.
Yeah, it's a pretty horrible influence. Did you know the average age of a child seeing their first pornographic image now is EIGHT? Wtf.
Violent video games can be a really bad influence, too, but at least those have a well-established age rating system. It's a shame it gets ignored by so many parents. It really bothers me when I encounter 10 year olds on the very-much-M-rated games I play due to their graphic or realistic violence, and they're on the mic screaming words that I won't even use as a 30 year old who can cuss like a sailor at times. Where are their parents?
All music gets is that "parental advisory" warning box in the corner of CD cases (like kids even buy CDs anymore) that says nothing about the content - maybe the album says "ass" once. Maybe every song is about snorting coke while shooting police and engaging in necrophilia. Same label either way.
Because you said this, I would like to point out many studies have been conducted to see if video games (especially violent) had a negative impact. Almost all of the studies have shown, that the games had no effect on the childs' mental health, and they acted the same as the people who hadn't played the games.
I have written a paper on the subject, and yes, I agree. The real problem is that kids think that they are anonymous on the internet and therefore while they are playing those games, they will do and say whatever they want. Playing these games isn't really what's causing the problem, rather it is the result of the problem: bad parenting.
Not sure I believe that, but I suppose my belief depends on the details - age of the children, what they're exposed to elsewhere, mental health that isn't apparent in behavior, level and graphicness of the violence, how much, parental involvement, etc etc. There are so many factors in child development.
I'm fully prepared to stand by saying that exposing preteens to dismemberment, geysers of blood and brains, and evisceration is not good for them, though :P
Quote from: Gorzo on September 19, 2014, 07:36:25 PM
Not sure I believe that, but I suppose my belief depends on the details - age of the children, what they're exposed to elsewhere, mental health that isn't apparent in behavior, level and graphicness of the violence, how much, parental involvement, etc etc. There are so many factors in child development.
I'm fully prepared to stand by saying that exposing preteens to dismemberment, geysers of blood and brains, and evisceration is not good for them, though :P
couldnt have said it better myself
Quote from: ShadowBarbarian on September 19, 2014, 11:02:17 PM
Awards show and stage shenanigans aside, I think the only person in pop music right now with any talent is Miley Cyrus. She can actually sing. I mean just watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOwblaKmyVw
It was a couple years ago but it shows off her chops. Almost better than the original (I like Dolly Parton.)
Agree, she should have stayed with the country music though
All the more reason to listen to the old school.
Beethoven. Beatles. Bono. Bowie. And of course butt rock. Any kind.
Bring back the age of metal!
You can't kill the metal
Quote from: S717 on September 28, 2014, 04:40:52 PM
You can't kill the metal
They tried to stop the metal... AND THEY FAILED.
Yeah, I watched part of the Anaconda video today at a friends recommendation.....I completely agree with this thread.
Quote from: Gorzo on September 28, 2014, 05:47:20 PM
Quote from: S717 on September 28, 2014, 04:40:52 PM
You can't kill the metal
They tried to stop the metal... AND THEY FAILED.
Techno tried to defile the metal, but techno was proven wrong!
Quote from: Gorzo on September 28, 2014, 05:47:20 PM
Quote from: S717 on September 28, 2014, 04:40:52 PM
You can't kill the metal
They tried to stop the metal... AND THEY FAILED.
WONDER BOOOYEEE WHAT IS THE SECRET OF YOUR POWWWEEeer
Control yourself. Take only what you need from this. Haha
That is the weirdest video ever... Even more weird than Aqua's Barbie Girl or Rammstein's version of it...
Why can't everyone just listen to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfG-WTWQjAk