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Title: What defines sexual orientation? NSFW
Post by: TheRecklessPlaneswalker on September 10, 2014, 07:39:09 PM
So I wanted everyone's though on this. There is a lot of debate on what defines someone as being gay, lesbian or Bi? Also what are your thoughts that drives you to be?
Disclamer: this is nothing against gays, or anything like that. Just wonder what it's like "swinging for the other team".

* A pearsonal story here:
In 6th grade, Me being an aswome nerd like I am became the best friends with a football athlete(which due to social culture is not common). We were friends for a long time. Hung out a lot. Played video games.
And at the end of the 6th grade his family announced he was moving to Florida. So as  a last hurrah! His family took me to a hotel resort thingy.
The second day his parents and sister left to explore the town. So him and I went to the waterpark.
We were in the hot tub, taking about girls we liked etc.. And I mentioned that I haven't kissed anyone yet.
He said "what if I just kissed you right now?"
And he kind of headed towards my direction, and swooped in. And gave me a kiss on the limps and hugged  me( in which he was Rock hard(nsfw))
He dragged me back to the vacant hotel room.
"Nsfw"
We didn't do anything, just made out, and he showed me his "nsfw"

So my first kiss was a guy. And I'm a guy. So do I like guys and girls? But does make me bi.


This is where the discussion comes from.
Title: Re: What defines sexual orientation? NSFW
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 10, 2014, 07:44:27 PM
Quote from: TheRecklessPlaneswalker on September 10, 2014, 07:39:09 PM
So I wanted everyone's though on this. There is a lot of debate on what defines someone as being gay, lesbian or Bi? Also what are your thoughts that drives you to be?

* A pearsonal story here:
In 6th grade, Me being an aswome nerd like I am became the best friends with a football athlete(which due to social culture is not common). We were friends for a long time. Hung out a lot. Played video games.
And at the end of the 6th grade his family announced he was moving to Florida. So as  a last hurrah! His family took me to a hotel resort thingy.
The second day his parents and sister left to explore the town. So him and I went to the waterpark.
We were in the hot tub, taking about girls we liked etc.. And I mentioned that I haven't kissed anyone yet.
He said "what if I just kissed you right now?"
And he kind of headed towards my direction, and swooped in. And gave me a kiss on the limps and hugged  me( in which he was Rock hard(nsfw))
He dragged me back to the vacant hotel room.
"Nsfw"
We didn't do anything, just made out, and he showed me his "nsfw"

So my first kiss was a guy. And I'm a guy. So do I like guys and girls? But does make me bi.


This is where the discussion comes from.
I believe that it is genetic although, there is no consensus on the fact. To quote Jon Stewart, "If being gay is a choice, when did you decide to be straight?" As for you being bi, straight, whatever, one kiss and someone showing you his shlong doesn't make you gay or bi. When you are older, you will discover for yourself what your sexual orientation is, the important thing to remember is that no matter how it turns out, you are still you.
Title: Re: What defines sexual orientation? NSFW
Post by: Thetrufflehunter on September 10, 2014, 07:44:30 PM
Being the heterosexual thirteen year-old I am, my opinion is you're kind of up in the air until you have a crush on someone. Then, you are whatever orientation that would put you in. If you shift to liking a different gender/both genders, your orientation shifts with you.
Title: Re: What defines sexual orientation? NSFW
Post by: TheRecklessPlaneswalker on September 10, 2014, 07:50:17 PM
Quote from: Thetrufflehunter on September 10, 2014, 07:44:30 PM
Being the heterosexual thirteen year-old I am, my opinion is you're kind of up in the air until you have a crush on someone. Then, you are whatever orientation that would put you in. If you shift to liking a different gender/both genders, your orientation shifts with you.

True, I am a lot older than I was  in 6th grade and wiser. I was refering to my 6th grade self.
Just how society defines this subject is odd. I can dont belive genetic, i think it's based on your surroundings and where you grow up. And your social group
Title: Re: What defines sexual orientation? NSFW
Post by: MuggyWuggy on September 10, 2014, 07:52:08 PM
Well someone advanced on you; so clearly his sexuality is more defined from looking at that scenario.

For that single act to define your sexuality permanently  would be false in my opinion.

It takes many moments over time to define who you are, experimentation can happen in your youth to young adulthood, both hetero and homo. Neither is wrong nor more right than the other.

You will understand what you appreciate in human being over time and what attracts you physically to another person.

Title: Re: What defines sexual orientation? NSFW
Post by: TheRecklessPlaneswalker on September 10, 2014, 07:55:24 PM
Well in my situation, you could also clear things up with testonorone and emotions. It was kind of "heat of the moment" kind of .poo..
Like I wasn't going to see my best friend ever again.
Title: Re: What defines sexual orientation? NSFW
Post by: Distriimuir on September 10, 2014, 08:56:28 PM
As a son of two mothers I can say its encoded in who you are at birth, people may "choose" later in life but most homosexuals/transgender people were born that way. Trust me when I say they wouldn't choose to be hated or harmed for their sexual orientation, so it's not a choice for the naturally born ones. The ones that later choose to switch are, in my mind, acting out for attention because of midlife crisis, life issues etc.
Title: Re: What defines sexual orientation? NSFW
Post by: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on September 10, 2014, 10:18:31 PM
Look at it this way, why would I choose to be dicriminated against, or hated.  I think that it is something that is genetic, but you can also choose to be gay. 

Now, one experience doesn't really define your orientation.  I know several straight people who have had a homosexual experience.  They are still considered straight though.