1 {Island} 1 {Forest} 2 {Wasteland} 3 {Polluted Delta} 1 {Creeping Tar Pit} 2 {Bayou} 1 {Swamp} 3 {Underground Sea} 4 {Verdant Catacombs} 2 {Tropical Island} 2 {Misty Rainforest}
22 lands
2 {Baleful Strix} 4 {Deathrite Shaman} 4 {Shardless Agent} 4 {Tarmogoyf}
14 creatures
1 {Toxic Deluge} 2 {Liliana of the Veil} 2 {Thoughtseize} 4 {Force of Will} 3 {Ancestral Vision} 2 {Abrupt Decay} 1 {Jace, the Mind Sculptor} 4 {Brainstorm} 1 {Maelstrom Pulse} 2 {Hymn to Tourach} 1 {Sylvan Library} 1 {Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver}
24 other spells
Sideboard
1 {Abrupt Decay} 1 {Tasigur, the Golden Fang} 1 {Pithing Needle} 1 {Notion Thief} 1 {Dismember} 1 {Thoughtseize} 2 {Vendilion Clique} 1 {Golgari Charm} 1 {Chill} 1 {Grafdigger's Cage} 1 {Null Rod} 1 {Toxic Deluge} 2 {Surgical Extraction}
15 sideboard cards
Notes: Updated with 4 Bstorms, removed a hymn
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I have no idea what is supposed to be cut, but you need 4 {Brainstorm}, not 3
Ill drop a hymn
This the first legacy deck ill be building, it seems to be a pretty strong deck (expensive too)
Oh boy.. Acquiring tarms...
Glad I have everything but the land, tarms and fow
Quote from: Bear RUG on September 10, 2014, 02:35:24 PM
Ill drop a hymn
This the first legacy deck ill be building, it seems to be a pretty strong deck (expensive too)
Oh boy.. Acquiring tarms...
Glad I have everything but the land, tarms and fow
It's a powerful deck, though I'm not a personal fan of it. If you want to save a little $, you don't need the {Karakas} in the board.
I know I don't need it, but show and tell seems to be popular in the meta, I could throw in the hymn in that slot
I also have my eye on death and taxes, so might as well go for the gold ;)
Need to figure out what to take out - want to fit tasigur in, but do I remove a clique or something else? I threw in 2 digs as the idea of looking for a force of will and a spell to exile with it is pretty damn sexy.
Dropped jace to 1 as I've seen many builds doing this recently.
I'm 7 cards short of this list before I can play it, currently subbing tasigur for the 2 tarms I don't have.
Very excited for legacy soon!
Looks like a mean list. I think tas will be good. I'd cut a clique for him probably.. Or maybe the {Maelstrom Pulse} To the board to make room?
Clique or pulse.. I think pulse? Can anyone reason for another drop?
I had 2 hymns MB'd
Still may wanna SB another
Also need to do cuts in SB
Ugh efficiency
Deck is finished! Running this for a sec, gonna see how dig goes
Playing a few scg win a boxes today with this (or letting a friend use it to win boxes!)
I know I need 4 tarms, but do you have $400 extra?
How'd it go man?
Lol none of the win a boxes for legacy filled up when I was there. So I played standard instead. Had a great game vs UB control, but lost, some great games though and no time limit was pretty awesome for both of us.
Deck is ready though, took a while to build it, but I only spent $1000 hard on it, everything else was acquired in trades or bulk buys
Dropped a dig for a 2nd tasigur, he's very hard to remove for many decks.
Added a forest and took a fetch, being able to abrupt decay something locking my board like choke or back to basics is huge
Been playing this pretty much nonstop on untap
Doing a legacy staples tournament on Sunday, so hopefully I take it :)
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on April 10, 2015, 11:27:04 PM
Dropped a dig for a 2nd tasigur, he's very hard to remove for many decks.
Added a forest and took a fetch, being able to abrupt decay something locking my board like choke or back to basics is huge
Been playing this pretty much nonstop on untap
Doing a legacy staples tournament on Sunday, so hopefully I take it :)
Also good against {Blood Moon} Take notes. Want to get a report if possible.
Hey, one note: I think the {Baleful Strix} Should be in the main and {Vendilion Clique} Should be in the board, since you can cascade in to it.
You know, I've found I just prefer clique, it's what got me started on this whole decklist, usually if I sense an archetype, being able to clique them before JTMS can land is pretty nice
Maybe ill try it with strix on untap this weekend
I LOVE getting jace to ultimate with lili on board.
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on April 11, 2015, 01:15:32 AM
You know, I've found I just prefer clique, it's what got me started on this whole decklist, usually if I sense an archetype, being able to clique them before JTMS can land is pretty nice
Maybe ill try it with strix on untap this weekend
I LOVE getting jace to ultimate with lili on board.
Jace + lili is pretty much game over. Pretty mean!
So far 0-2
First match was
1-2 vs miracles, first game was Grindy, went about 30 minutes, 2nd game I disarmed his hand really fast with hymn and 3rd game in order to not make it a draw for time, we played fast, he got an entreat the angels that just beat my face after I got my board terminus'd.
Match 2 was vs naya Stoneforge. First game was a struggle and eventually I loss to batterskull. 2nd game he cleared me pretty fast
Rest of tournament
3rd was a draw vs JUND - 3 great grindy games, we went into time and drew
4th matchup was vs a grixis build - almost had him 2-0 and in game 2, he pulls a blood moon finally when hes at 3 life. I was done at that point (always grab basics after 3 duals is my lesson there) - 3rd game. Pulled the sideboard dream - thougtseize turn one. Get out a blood moon fromhand, then surgical extraction blood moon. Cost me 5 life. BUT DAMN THAT FELT GOOD. He eventually pulled out on top as we almost went to time again. 1-2
5th matchup was vs artifacts (mud?)- he locked me down with chalice t1 game1 and I missed a few land drops so that didn't help either. 2nd game thoughtsieze was MONEY, took his chalice, then fow'd his monolith, wastelanded his stuff. Got a goyf t2 that just put the quick beats in, he forgot some math with my creeping tar pit. 3rd game, he locked me out, but since he was dropping gave me the win for 2-0. Nice guy
6th matchup was vs an esper brew deck featuring torrent elemental, baleful strixs and vindicates, we had a long grindy game 1, and game 2, I put in multiple goyfs and tasigur for nasty beats. Won 2-0.
So didn't win any staples, but REALLY enjoyed playing mydeck in person (as were all the players) now I dont know if I'll show up for FNMs at that store for legacy, but definitely feel like this format is far more attractive than modern for my taste.
Sounds like a fun tournament! 6 rounds is a little rough. What time did it start? Glad you had fun!
1pm ended around 6pm
It was great though, learned a lot about the format and my deck, I play a little too aggressively and sometimes end up topdecking, may add another thoughtseize. I'll try my untap build with balefuls in the main, but clique has proven really nice MB, helps prevent decks from getting their needed card.
im on untap, got tired of updating cockatrice client
testtesttest on untap
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on April 13, 2015, 01:33:52 PM
im on untap, got tired of updating cockatrice client
testtesttest on untap
I know a testtesttest
Lies
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on April 13, 2015, 03:12:46 PM
Lies
Hey was this the event in studio city? I saw results on mtgsalvation. If so, that's rad they list top decks and deck lists. Top 9 staples is crazy value too. Holy cow.
Yeah that was it
Gonna start supporting that store as its like the only legacy staples place in the area and we got 46 people :)
Keep seeing a lot of needing to wipe the board so boarded hymn and cliques and a tz, I do like baleful MB for sake of artifact creature in GY pumping goyf
thinking about switching this up - current meta just seems to crush this deck.
Thinking of something BUG w/ True Name and some other shenanigans
Tips anyone?
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on July 18, 2015, 03:34:56 AM
thinking about switching this up - current meta just seems to crush this deck.
Thinking of something BUG w/ True Name and some other shenanigans
Tips anyone?
I've been playing a lot of Sultai Delver lately, and it' been treating me rather well. I play 1 true name in the main, and one in the board. The decklists are pretty similar between shardless and Delver, though, so it won't take much to change between them.
I figure I'm losing 7 cards MB - ancestral visions and 4 shardless agents.
Throw in 3 TNN
1 TZ
testing with ashiok and kiora for the hell of it on untap right now
thinking about sylvan library and some more draw/removal effects
Kiora has been hilarious on untap vs a few decks.
How isnit shardless BUG without shardless agent? 😜
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on July 18, 2015, 05:01:58 AM
I figure I'm losing 7 cards MB - ancestral visions and 4 shardless agents.
Throw in 3 TNN
1 TZ
testing with ashiok and kiora for the hell of it on untap right now
thinking about sylvan library and some more draw/removal effects
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on July 18, 2015, 05:01:58 AM
I figure I'm losing 7 cards MB - ancestral visions and 4 shardless agents.
Throw in 3 TNN
1 TZ
testing with ashiok and kiora for the hell of it on untap right now
thinking about sylvan library and some more draw/removal effects
If you just make the changes you said here you're not really bug delver. More of a bug control deck. Bug delver gets all the cheap counter spells and doesn't run jace or mb deluge usually.
I'm thinking more of the control aspect and also just doing the ol' playing with the cards I got.
For delver - what pool of cards would any of you add
A few spell pierces/snares and some ponders i assume?
Quote from: cltrn81 on July 18, 2015, 10:02:46 AM
How isnit shardless BUG without shardless agent? 😜
lol well i can always throw shardless back in the formula
just wanna try another bug control deck as shardless is kind of weak right now
Would love to figure out a way to stabilize it more. Perhaps tighten what can be cascaded? Add a few counters?
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on July 18, 2015, 07:00:39 PM
I'm thinking more of the control aspect and also just doing the ol' playing with the cards I got.
For delver - what pool of cards would any of you add
A few spell pierces/snares and some ponders i assume?
Pretty much. Lol maybe a few {Daze}, {dark confidant}, {disfigure}, and {stifle}
So I just threw {pack rat} in the mix
The lolz - too many cards, land locked? Pitch and make rats
Just played an untap game where a guy buffs 2/2 bears
He plays cost of arms
I have 3 Goyfs (6/7 already) and 3 pack rats.
Abrupt decay his buffs and laugh my way to victory
Ok, so testing a library with this online has been realllly strong, been getting really good with this deck. Won a local tournament last night also (only 7 people but hey!)
Also I dominate a miracles matchup, 4 FoW and a library really improved this deck
Also dropped a verdant for a plain island, may switch it back but I also like one of each basic avail
Vs show and tell yesterday
T1 wasteland their volcanic island
Pay 2 life surgical extraction Volcanic island
Later in game, they have show and tell, waiting on 3rd land for Emrakul drop, lili forces discard, discards 2nd unrevealed emrakul , response to shuffle trigger - surgical extraction emrakul
Get the one in his hand :)
Such a fun spell
Considering adding {pithing needle} and {krosan grip} to sb
What else works well vs top
Played a miracles mentor the other day and the recast top nonsense is ridiculous
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on August 24, 2015, 01:08:02 PM
Considering adding {pithing needle} and {krosan grip} to sb
What else works well vs top
Played a miracles mentor the other day and the recast top nonsense is ridiculous
Against top you need something that does nothing.....
Quote from: Taysby on August 24, 2015, 05:25:05 PM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on August 13, 2015, 12:36:32 PM
Vs show and tell yesterday
T1 wasteland their volcanic island
Pay 2 life surgical extraction Volcanic island
Later in game, they have show and tell, waiting on 3rd land for Emrakul drop, lili forces discard, discards 2nd unrevealed emrakul , response to shuffle trigger - surgical extraction emrakul
Get the one in his hand :)
Such a fun spell
Either he's playing a bad list, or he's playing bad. Show and tell only has volcanic for {young pyromancer}s in the side and maby a brought in {red elemental blast}. Also, the vast majority of the time it wins without emmy because of the {release the ants} combo.
Still takes 3-4 lands out of their deck. Can help if they're tight already.
Quote from: Falcon182 on August 24, 2015, 05:58:26 PM
Quote from: Taysby on August 24, 2015, 05:25:05 PM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on August 13, 2015, 12:36:32 PM
Vs show and tell yesterday
T1 wasteland their volcanic island
Pay 2 life surgical extraction Volcanic island
Later in game, they have show and tell, waiting on 3rd land for Emrakul drop, lili forces discard, discards 2nd unrevealed emrakul , response to shuffle trigger - surgical extraction emrakul
Get the one in his hand :)
Such a fun spell
Either he's playing a bad list, or he's playing bad. Show and tell only has volcanic for {young pyromancer}s in the side and maby a brought in {red elemental blast}. Also, the vast majority of the time it wins without emmy because of the {release the ants} combo.
Still takes 3-4 lands out of their deck. Can help if they're tight already.
That's a big "if" though. Most omnitell decks run 2, sometimes 3 volcanic. Extraction is better used getting non-land cards or fetches if you really want to hit a land.
Quote from: Taysby on August 24, 2015, 06:36:41 PM
My list runs 1 volcanic. More are unnecessary. Surgical on the fetch would be better
The only time 2 is even necessary is if they have wasteland and even then it's not that important because you only fetch the red in order to fight a counter war.
Quote from: Taysby on August 24, 2015, 05:25:05 PM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on August 13, 2015, 12:36:32 PM
Vs show and tell yesterday
T1 wasteland their volcanic island
Pay 2 life surgical extraction Volcanic island
Later in game, they have show and tell, waiting on 3rd land for Emrakul drop, lili forces discard, discards 2nd unrevealed emrakul , response to shuffle trigger - surgical extraction emrakul
Get the one in his hand :)
Such a fun spell
Either he's playing a bad list, or he's playing bad. Show and tell only has volcanic for {young pyromancer}s in the side and maby a brought in {red elemental blast}. Also, the vast majority of the time it wins without emmy because of the {release the ants} combo.
Deck was sneak and show
So as for mentor miracles: krosan grip and needle are it?
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on August 24, 2015, 07:24:50 PM
Quote from: Taysby on August 24, 2015, 05:25:05 PM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on August 13, 2015, 12:36:32 PM
Vs show and tell yesterday
T1 wasteland their volcanic island
Pay 2 life surgical extraction Volcanic island
Later in game, they have show and tell, waiting on 3rd land for Emrakul drop, lili forces discard, discards 2nd unrevealed emrakul , response to shuffle trigger - surgical extraction emrakul
Get the one in his hand :)
Such a fun spell
Either he's playing a bad list, or he's playing bad. Show and tell only has volcanic for {young pyromancer}s in the side and maby a brought in {red elemental blast}. Also, the vast majority of the time it wins without emmy because of the {release the ants} combo.
Deck was sneak and show
Makes a huge difference.
Some days you don't win the match, but you get to toxic deluge for 20 to kill marit lage. Which make the night of legacy playing worth it
The best was me at 20 sending my phy revoker into his 20/20, so he gets suspicious and blocks with scooze
I then got myself to 22 life and then deluged
He felt dumb about blocking my guy when he was at 20' life lol
No... Only you gain life with drs
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on September 10, 2015, 01:52:40 PM
The best was me at 20 sending my phy revoker into his 20/20, so he gets suspicious and blocks with scooze
I then got myself to 22 life and then deluged
He felt dumb about blocking my guy when he was at 20' life lol
I don't get what the attack had to do with it.
No creatures in gy - he has a scooze and marit lage untapped and is tapped out for land
I'm at 20 life with a death rite untapped and a phy revoker (naming lili which is in his hand)
So I send revoker in hoping he kills it so I can exile it with Drs to gain 2 life to be at 22
Then I toxic deluge for 20
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on September 11, 2015, 12:09:53 AM
No creatures in gy - he has a scooze and marit lage untapped and is tapped out for land
I'm at 20 life with a death rite untapped and a phy revoker (naming lili which is in his hand)
So I send revoker in hoping he kills it so I can exile it with Drs to gain 2 life to be at 22
Then I toxic deluge for 20
Clear. That picture is more complete. Nice play!
Fortunately dtt was a one of and now it just means I throw a hymn main board
But awwwwww
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on September 28, 2015, 01:14:16 PM
Fortunately dtt was a one of and now it just means I throw a hymn main board
But awwwwww
This ban is great for shardless bug!
Miracles and show/tell definitely lost a major player, but that spell has saved my ass several times also ><
New build up
Dropped by 3rd sea as I don't have one and it finally happened to me - a shock got me in bad position at a tournament. So I threw in a 4th verdant, if it becomes clunky I'll throw in a basic since wasteland and price of progress just ruin me
Sideboard is currently just the pool I play with, not what I bring to a tournament - it's just too fun to notion thief a brainstorm at non major legacy events
Too clunky
Need to have the dismembers and chills at 2x each and same with surgical extraction, pesky infect decks
Current list and sb for sale
T2/3 Ashiok has caused scoops by the 5th turn if it exiles a few win cons
Some cases Ashiok is not good (like food chain) but then i side out
And side boarding for legacy (in reply to your post on the kotr thread) has more 1 Ofs where I see modern is more two Ofs
Happy to report
I'm actively trading back into this deck
Duals
2 goyfs
3 shardless agents
3 visions
Zen fetches
1 Lotv
2 fow
Key word: TRADING :)
Quote from: Themugz on June 22, 2016, 02:58:28 AM
Happy to report
I'm actively trading back into this deck
Duals
2 goyfs
3 shardless agents
3 visions
Zen fetches
1 Lotv
2 fow
Key word: TRADING :)
I got your foil shardless agent ;)
Quote from: Spencer Addington on June 23, 2016, 02:07:28 PM
Quote from: Themugz on June 22, 2016, 02:58:28 AM
Happy to report
I'm actively trading back into this deck
Duals
2 goyfs
3 shardless agents
3 visions
Zen fetches
1 Lotv
2 fow
Key word: TRADING :)
I got your foil shardless agent ;)
Also might have 2 lily and a khans delta depending on what you have