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Title: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: TheRedRabble on September 08, 2014, 09:32:14 PM

Not Another Rabble Deck V1

75 cards, 15 sideboard


18 {Mountain}

18 lands


4 {Goblin Rabblemaster}
3 {War-Name Aspirant}
3 {Jeering Instigator}
4 {Monastery Swiftspear}
4 {Foundry Street Denizen}

18 creatures


4 {Searing Blood}
4 {Magma Jet}
4 {Arc Lightning}
4 {Crater's Claws}
4 {Stoke the Flames}
4 {Lightning Strike}

24 other spells


Sideboard

2 {Shatter}
1 {Harness by Force}
2 {Blinding Flare}
1 {Obelisk of Urd}
1 {Hammer of Purphoros}
1 {Titan's Strength}
1 {Searing Blood}
1 {Purphoros, God of the Forge}
2 {Magma Jet}
3 {Eidolon of the Great Revel}

15 sideboard cards



Notes:

Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: Ekann1 on September 08, 2014, 10:01:55 PM
{legion loyalist}
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: TheRedRabble on September 09, 2014, 07:53:26 AM
Quote from: E.kann1 on September 08, 2014, 10:01:55 PM
{legion loyalist}

Trying to stay post rotation
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: Jloe41 on September 09, 2014, 09:05:30 AM
To help keep it post rotation, why not put in fire drinker satyr for ash zealot?
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: TheRedRabble on September 09, 2014, 12:10:24 PM
Quote from: Jloe41 on September 09, 2014, 09:05:30 AM
To help keep it post rotation, why not put in fire drinker satyr for ash zealot?

I forgot about the zealots being in there , there kinda fillers
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: Jloe41 on September 09, 2014, 01:02:05 PM
Fillers for what? I would still highly suggest the firedrinker satyr in this deck!!
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: TheRedRabble on September 09, 2014, 06:15:07 PM
Zealots were fillers for {Goblin Kaboomist}
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: Jloe41 on September 10, 2014, 09:11:15 AM
Ehhh I don't really like kaboomist, I guess it is what you really prefer, he does give you the land mine, but then the rest is luck. In the end it is up to you!! Just giving some ideas lol
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: TheRedRabble on September 10, 2014, 12:39:23 PM
Just looking for ideas right now
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: TheRedRabble on September 15, 2014, 12:41:06 PM
Updated with adjustments from playtesting over the weekend
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: Alec Garst on September 15, 2014, 12:48:54 PM
You can play shrapnel blast to blow up the mines for more damage to a player or creature so it gives more of a flexibility of dealing damage to not just attacking creatures. Probably only a two or three of
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: LinkCelestrial on September 15, 2014, 12:51:24 PM
 {Paragon of Fierce Defiance}? Saves {Goblin Kaboomist} and bumps your tokens nicely. Otherwise I'd be running less goblins cause I hate being forced to attack.
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: TheRedRabble on September 15, 2014, 01:01:09 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on September 15, 2014, 12:51:24 PM
{Paragon of Fierce Defiance}? Saves {Goblin Kaboomist} and bumps your tokens nicely. Otherwise I'd be running less goblins cause I hate being forced to attack.

I was thinking of cutting Kaboomist for a burn spell
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: LinkCelestrial on September 15, 2014, 01:40:15 PM
Which one? {Frenzied Goblin} isn't standard.
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: griffin131 on September 15, 2014, 05:55:51 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on September 15, 2014, 01:40:15 PM
Which one? {Frenzied Goblin} isn't standard.
Reprinted in 2015.
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: Thetrufflehunter on September 15, 2014, 07:40:51 PM
There is a 1cmc 1/2 haste in Khans.
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: TheRedRabble on September 15, 2014, 08:22:08 PM
Quote from: Thetrufflehunter on September 15, 2014, 07:40:51 PM
There is a 1cmc 1/2 haste in Khans.

I think it's called Jeering Instigater I think
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: Mattao19 on September 16, 2014, 12:15:18 AM
There's a {1}{R}{R} sorcery that puts 3 1/1 goblins into play. I'd run that :D
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: LinkCelestrial on September 16, 2014, 12:34:01 AM
Quote from: griffin131 on September 15, 2014, 05:55:51 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on September 15, 2014, 01:40:15 PM
Which one? {Frenzied Goblin} isn't standard.
Reprinted in 2015.

I read M13. My dad's is also M13. My bad.
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: Closing Time on September 16, 2014, 10:41:09 AM
I'd add {Firedrinker Satyr}, Monastery Swiftspear, War-name Aspirant and
{Borderland Marauder}. I'd lose  {Frenzied Goblin} and {Ash Zealot}.
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: Closing Time on September 16, 2014, 10:43:41 AM
I'd also remove the paragon. I know this breaks up the Goblin theme but I don't think the individual goblins are that strong on their own (apart from the Rabblemaster)
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: TheRedRabble on September 23, 2014, 07:04:34 PM
Updated with khans
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: cltrn81 on September 23, 2014, 07:15:13 PM
So much no to {goblin slide} it is such a poor imitation of {young pyromancer}
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: TheRedRabble on September 23, 2014, 07:35:33 PM
Quote from: cltrn81 on September 23, 2014, 07:15:13 PM
So much no to {goblin slide} it is such a poor imitation of {young pyromancer}

Ok np
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: Mattao19 on September 23, 2014, 08:29:49 PM
I disagree. It pumps up your Rabble 3 mana for 3 dudes is always good :P look at {Spectral procession} I'd say keep the slide
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: TheRedRabble on September 23, 2014, 08:45:44 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on September 23, 2014, 08:29:49 PM
I disagree. It pumps up your Rabble 3 mana for 3 dudes is always good :P look at {Spectral procession} I'd say keep the slide

My idea is to flood the board with goblin tokens
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: Mattao19 on September 23, 2014, 09:06:46 PM
Just be careful of {Drown in Sorrow} and {Anger of the Gods}
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: lotrwk on September 23, 2014, 09:16:45 PM
Mattao you're thinking of {hordeling outburst}. {goblinslide} is bad
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: Mattao19 on September 23, 2014, 11:52:05 PM
Quote from: lotrwk on September 23, 2014, 09:16:45 PM
Mattao you're thinking of {hordeling outburst}. {goblinslide} is bad

Oh God my bad lol ew Goblin slide sucks ass! Get that out of the deck!

My apologies :( but damn I'm dumb Hordeling Outburst is amazing so keep that and drop goblin slide for legit anything else! You're mono red I'd take out the slides and add Garruk apex predator ... That's how much of a dead card slide is ...
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: TheRedRabble on September 24, 2014, 06:45:14 PM
Need SB help please

Ps watch the negativity
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: BaBa BLaCkSHeeT on September 25, 2014, 02:16:24 AM
It won't really be possible to effectively create a aideboard for a format that hasn't appeared yet.

Your best bet is to playtest and find out what form of removal/specific cards give you trouble.

As far as a meta given popular decka will be mono green devotion/similair red AGGRO decka/black Aggro/bug control.

Gear your sodeboard against these decka and you should have a basic tool kit to start with
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: TheRedRabble on September 25, 2014, 08:05:35 AM
Most people in my area play jund walkers l say 70%
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: TheRedRabble on September 27, 2014, 12:20:40 PM
Any other feedback is welcome
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: TheRedRabble on September 29, 2014, 12:43:39 PM
Ok it's not so good against mardu walkers any sweaks would be a help
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: TheRedRabble on October 20, 2014, 11:02:51 PM
Just bumping hoping for more thoughts dusted it to how l played it this past weekend game days
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: LinkCelestrial on October 20, 2014, 11:09:00 PM
A large part of me wants to see how {Howl of the Hoard} works in this deck. Attack, cast it, convoke out {Stoke the Flames} and that's probably game. Other than that it looks really solid.
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: TheRedRabble on October 21, 2014, 12:20:34 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on October 20, 2014, 11:09:00 PM
A large part of me wants to see how {Howl of the Hoard} works in this deck. Attack, cast it, convoke out {Stoke the Flames} and that's probably game. Other than that it looks really solid.

Ok I'll see if I can work it in some how, I thinking of splashing to deal with enchantments
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: Mattao19 on October 21, 2014, 01:41:55 PM
Quote from: TheRedRabble on October 21, 2014, 12:20:34 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on October 20, 2014, 11:09:00 PM
A large part of me wants to see how {Howl of the Hoard} works in this deck. Attack, cast it, convoke out {Stoke the Flames} and that's probably game. Other than that it looks really solid.

Ok I'll see if I can work it in some how, I thinking of splashing to deal with enchantments

What enchantments does Rabble Red care about? Banishing Light? That's kinda slow don't you think like Red should be able to take care of that just by attacking burning them out
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: LinkCelestrial on October 21, 2014, 01:50:34 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on October 21, 2014, 01:41:55 PM
Quote from: TheRedRabble on October 21, 2014, 12:20:34 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on October 20, 2014, 11:09:00 PM
A large part of me wants to see how {Howl of the Hoard} works in this deck. Attack, cast it, convoke out {Stoke the Flames} and that's probably game. Other than that it looks really solid.

Ok I'll see if I can work it in some how, I thinking of splashing to deal with enchantments

What enchantments does Rabble Red care about? Banishing Light? That's kinda slow don't you think like Red should be able to take care of that just by attacking burning them out

I immediately assumed {Jeskai Ascendancy} combo.
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: Mattao19 on October 21, 2014, 02:24:44 PM
Ascendancy Combo has more ways to be disrupted. They can lose to no creatures so Red can just burn their follower. Sure if they have a caryatid it's bad but in my experience in playing combo RDW can beat us faster than we can go off
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: TheRedRabble on October 21, 2014, 06:02:55 PM
So l have a 3 howl of the hordes to work or maybe just 2 , suggestions r were to plug them in
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: LinkCelestrial on October 21, 2014, 07:32:33 PM
Quote from: TheRedRabble on October 21, 2014, 06:02:55 PM
So l have a 3 howl of the hordes to work or maybe just 2 , suggestions r were to plug them in

My immediate thought is {Hammer Hand}. I see {Howl of the Horde} being considerably better.
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: TheRedRabble on October 21, 2014, 08:25:49 PM
I'll swap them out and see how l do at the next FNM , khans game days sucked this past weekend with the deck , 0-4 sat and 1-3 sun
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: LinkCelestrial on October 21, 2014, 08:33:02 PM
Quote from: TheRedRabble on October 21, 2014, 08:25:49 PM
I'll swap them out and see how l do at the next FNM , khans game days sucked this past weekend with the deck , 0-4 sat and 1-3 sun

Ouch. Lemme know how it goes.
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: Mattao19 on October 21, 2014, 08:35:12 PM
Howl is pretty bad it's dependent on having a instant/sorcery to copy and to make it worth while a creature to attack. All this plus at least 5 mana seems very bad to me
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: LinkCelestrial on October 21, 2014, 08:47:22 PM
You might be right but I seriously think it's a solid card. I mean five mana for 9 damage isn't bad at all. Having {Goblin Rabblemaster} and such odds are he'll get the raid trigger with relative ease.
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: TheRedRabble on October 21, 2014, 11:54:10 PM
Updated
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: lotrwk on October 22, 2014, 03:04:23 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on October 21, 2014, 08:47:22 PM
You might be right but I seriously think it's a solid card. I mean five mana for 9 damage isn't bad at all. Having {Goblin Rabblemaster} and such odds are he'll get the raid trigger with relative ease.
5 mana for nine damage isn't good at all. First of all, it's five mana. That's a big no-no in mono red. Howl is a dead card without burn in hand...
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: LinkCelestrial on October 23, 2014, 12:50:59 AM
Quote from: lotrwk on October 22, 2014, 03:04:23 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on October 21, 2014, 08:47:22 PM
You might be right but I seriously think it's a solid card. I mean five mana for 9 damage isn't bad at all. Having {Goblin Rabblemaster} and such odds are he'll get the raid trigger with relative ease.
5 mana for nine damage isn't good at all. First of all, it's five mana. That's a big no-no in mono red. Howl is a dead card without burn in hand...

My mono red decks have supported five mana spells just fine. And he has other cards to copy besides burn. {Hordeling Outburst} for starters.

I'm going to have to lean your way as you clearly have more experience, but I'm just thinking it's worth a shot.
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: TheRedRabble on November 01, 2014, 03:28:06 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on October 21, 2014, 08:33:02 PM
Quote from: TheRedRabble on October 21, 2014, 08:25:49 PM
I'll swap them out and see how l do at the next FNM , khans game days sucked this past weekend with the deck , 0-4 sat and 1-3 sun

Ouch. Lemme know how it goes.

2-2 , last night and used howl of the hord once
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: Mattao19 on November 01, 2014, 04:19:56 PM
How was howl?
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: TheRedRabble on November 01, 2014, 08:11:22 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on November 01, 2014, 04:19:56 PM
How was howl?

Couple games I nvr drawed into it, but it might work if u play ur cards right
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: Mattao19 on November 01, 2014, 08:44:39 PM
When you played it though was it worth it?
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: TheRedRabble on November 01, 2014, 08:50:42 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on November 01, 2014, 08:44:39 PM
When you played it though was it worth it?

I played as a game ender, so ya
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: Mattao19 on November 01, 2014, 09:23:25 PM
Hmmm idk I'm not convinced personally
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: TheRedRabble on November 01, 2014, 10:08:12 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on November 01, 2014, 09:23:25 PM
Hmmm idk I'm not convinced personally

I wonder if Messanger speed would work in this deck or splash for blue or black
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: particle on November 01, 2014, 11:08:13 PM
Quote from: TheRedRabble on November 01, 2014, 10:08:12 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on November 01, 2014, 09:23:25 PM
Hmmm idk I'm not convinced personally

I wonder if Messanger speed would work in this deck or splash for blue or black

{hanmerhand} > {messenger's speed}.
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: Mattao19 on November 01, 2014, 11:16:57 PM
Quote from: particle on November 01, 2014, 11:08:13 PM
Quote from: TheRedRabble on November 01, 2014, 10:08:12 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on November 01, 2014, 09:23:25 PM
Hmmm idk I'm not convinced personally

I wonder if Messanger speed would work in this deck or splash for blue or black

{hanmerhand} > {messenger's speed}.

So much this ^^^
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: TheRedRabble on November 02, 2014, 08:36:29 AM
Messager speed gives u trample hammerhand dont
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: Mattao19 on November 02, 2014, 11:12:31 AM
Is Trample ever needed though?
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: TheRedRabble on November 04, 2014, 01:38:28 PM
If ur rabble master is 10/2 and he gets block by a 2/2 for example , there's 8 damage going through instead of 0
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: Mattao19 on November 04, 2014, 02:00:13 PM
Does it have trample?
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: TheRedRabble on November 04, 2014, 08:29:55 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on November 04, 2014, 02:00:13 PM
Does it have trample?

If u had Messanger speed attached to it , it would
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: Mattao19 on November 04, 2014, 09:09:53 PM
Quote from: TheRedRabble on November 04, 2014, 08:29:55 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on November 04, 2014, 02:00:13 PM
Does it have trample?

If u had Messanger speed attached to it , it would

Then yes it tramples over the creature.

Lol that doesn't make M Speed good btw
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: TheRedRabble on November 04, 2014, 10:38:43 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on November 04, 2014, 09:09:53 PM
Quote from: TheRedRabble on November 04, 2014, 08:29:55 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on November 04, 2014, 02:00:13 PM
Does it have trample?

If u had Messanger speed attached to it , it would

Then yes it tramples over the creature.

Lol that doesn't make M Speed good btw

It might have it's advantages and disavantages
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: Mattao19 on November 05, 2014, 12:50:37 AM
No M Speed is just plain bad!!
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: TheRedRabble on November 08, 2014, 09:32:39 PM
I might try it
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: TheRedRabble on November 10, 2014, 04:23:15 PM
Thinking of splashing blue for Aquaius form

Ya or na or maybe
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: Mattao19 on November 10, 2014, 08:05:48 PM
If you splash Blue your mana base will be shakey and you will have some awkward hands
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: TheRedRabble on November 10, 2014, 10:47:00 PM
The more I think about it I'll stick with mono red , I cut two mana and added to more howl of the hord and see how it runs at the next FNM , but if there's a suggestion that with improve the play of this deck , by all means suggest it
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: Mattao19 on November 11, 2014, 12:16:07 AM
Nooooo no Howl sorry but you just don't want it add something else OTHER THAN Mess Speed or Howl
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: Mattao19 on November 11, 2014, 12:18:09 AM
Upon looking at it why no {Hammerhand}
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: TheRedRabble on November 11, 2014, 06:21:30 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on November 11, 2014, 12:18:09 AM
Upon looking at it why no {Hammerhand}

Howl of the hord out hammerhand in
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: TheRedRabble on November 18, 2014, 12:26:59 PM
Want to make this more competitive , my local shop is going to have competitive standard starting soon so I would like make this better, all advise will be considered
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: Mattao19 on November 18, 2014, 12:30:54 PM
http://www.mtgtop8.com/archetype?a=12&meta=84&f=ST

Bunch of lists
Title: Re: Not Another Rabble Deck V1
Post by: TheRedRabble on December 09, 2014, 05:36:06 PM
Added more burn spells