I am making my first comander deck and i need some deck stratagys and commanders,
Could anyone help me out with a few?
Well first you need a legendary creature...can I have a list of ones you own?
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on September 08, 2014, 05:56:22 PM
Well first you need a legendary creature...can I have a list of ones you own?
Sure
Browsing the commander section should supply you with quite a few different strategies and examples. Dudecore also made a sticky there called the comprehensive guide that you should definitely read - it's loaded full of vital information about the format
I have
{Yeva natures herald}
{king maccer the gold curesed}
{xnogus god of revels}
{Tajic blade of the legion}
{Aurelia the war leader}
+ do planswalkers count
And I am willing to buy one
Quote from: Rothsteine on September 08, 2014, 06:08:38 PM
I have
{Yeva natures herald}
{king maccer the gold curesed}
{xnogus god of revels}
{Tajic blade of the legion}
{Aurelia the war leader}
+ do planswalkers count
And I am willing to buy one
Sadly Planeswalkers are a no, unless your playgroup agrees.
{King Macar, the Gold Cursed} can be good. Either go affinity for artifacts and metal craft, or mono black devotion stuff. {Springleaf Drum}, {Thornbite Staff}, {Claim of Erebos}. Make sure you have ways to tap him.
{Aurelia, the Warleader} is a fantastic Voltron commander. Your goal should be to hit people with her enough times to give them 21 damage by her alone so they die. Flame breath effects like {Dragon Mantle}, double strike {Battle Mastery}, {Fireshrieker}. {Skyblinder's Staff} is also great in this deck.
I've never done decks with the other ones you have. I'd recommend {Aurelia, the Warleader}. She kicks butt.
I don't have an Aurelia deck, but I run her in my {Kaalia of the Vast} deck, and she's great with that. Definitely a recommended Commander.
Thanks so much *1 for u good sir
Make it easier on yourself:
Buy a commander set from 2013 at target and start from there
Don't pick:
{Derevi, Empyrial Tactician}
{Oloro, Ageless Ascetic}
{Karador, Ghost Chieftain}
{Damia, Sage of Stone}
{Maelstrom Wanderer}
{Prossh, Skyraider of Kher}
{Nekusar, the Mindrazer}
{The Mimeoplasm}
{Sydri, Galvanic Genius}
{Ghave, Guru of Spores}
Quote from: Dudecore on September 08, 2014, 07:43:15 PM
Don't pick:
{Derevi, Empyrial Tactician}
{Oloro, Ageless Ascetic}
{Karador, Ghost Chieftain}
{Damia, Sage of Stone}
{Maelstrom Wanderer}
{Prossh, Skyraider of Kher}
{Nekusar, the Mindrazer}
{The Mimeoplasm}
{Sydri, Galvanic Genius}
{Ghave, Guru of Spores}
Any particular reason why?
Quote from: SoshiGanrou on September 08, 2014, 08:03:08 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on September 08, 2014, 07:43:15 PM
Don't pick:
{Derevi, Empyrial Tactician}
{Oloro, Ageless Ascetic}
{Karador, Ghost Chieftain}
{Damia, Sage of Stone}
{Maelstrom Wanderer}
{Prossh, Skyraider of Kher}
{Nekusar, the Mindrazer}
{The Mimeoplasm}
{Sydri, Galvanic Genius}
{Ghave, Guru of Spores}
Any particular reason why?
They are decks that get hate because people assume you are going to do something dirty. Also {Sharuum the Hegemond}. Not saying dont use them, just be ready when people hate you.
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 08, 2014, 08:25:19 PM
Quote from: SoshiGanrou on September 08, 2014, 08:03:08 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on September 08, 2014, 07:43:15 PM
Don't pick:
{Derevi, Empyrial Tactician}
{Oloro, Ageless Ascetic}
{Karador, Ghost Chieftain}
{Damia, Sage of Stone}
{Maelstrom Wanderer}
{Prossh, Skyraider of Kher}
{Nekusar, the Mindrazer}
{The Mimeoplasm}
{Sydri, Galvanic Genius}
{Ghave, Guru of Spores}
Any particular reason why?
They are decks that get hate because people assume you are going to do something dirty. Also {Sharuum the Hegemond}. Not saying dont use them, just be ready when people hate you.
or build unique decks with them that dont rely on obviously broken combos/synergy.
The list I posted was MTGS top most played commanders.
Quote from: ConanEdo on September 08, 2014, 08:40:10 PM
Quote from: particle on September 08, 2014, 08:27:02 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 08, 2014, 08:25:19 PM
Quote from: SoshiGanrou on September 08, 2014, 08:03:08 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on September 08, 2014, 07:43:15 PM
Don't pick:
{Derevi, Empyrial Tactician}
{Oloro, Ageless Ascetic}
{Karador, Ghost Chieftain}
{Damia, Sage of Stone}
{Maelstrom Wanderer}
{Prossh, Skyraider of Kher}
{Nekusar, the Mindrazer}
{The Mimeoplasm}
{Sydri, Galvanic Genius}
{Ghave, Guru of Spores}
Any particular reason why?
They are decks that get hate because people assume you are going to do something dirty. Also {Sharuum the Hegemond}. Not saying dont use them, just be ready when people hate you.
or build unique decks with them that dont rely on obviously broken combos/synergy.
Honestly, the list of commanders not to use is so long, it could fill a page. Just run what you want.
For example I've been told not to run:
Arcum Daggson
Niv Mizzet the Firemind
Maralen of the Morningsong
Teferi, Mage of Zhilfir
Azami
Krenko
Grenzo
Purphoros
Hokori, Dust Drinker (This one I agree with, don't play him)
Vendilion Clique
Varolz
Edric
Momir Vig
Jhoira
Grand Arbiter Augustin IV
Oona
Rafiq
Roon, of the Hidden Realm
Mayeal
Sen Triplets
Riku
Animar
Child of Alara
Scion of Ur
Totally agree. Essentially, anyone that can't make a well defensive deck will say this! Haha. "Any awesome commander, don't use it. Use this boring one that I can beat with creature face stomp only"
I don't normally hate on particular Commanders, but I'm wary when I see a few specific ones. Any Elf, Goblin or Sliver deck I pay close attention to, and anyone else in the game who happens to also be playing {Kaalia of the Vast}.
I have this weird thing where Kaalia is always the first one to die if I can do anything about it.... :P
A few people were like that when they first played against me, but my Kaalia deck takes a while to take off, and I don't immediately start utilising her till I can protect her somehow. A {Kozilek, Butcher of Truth} Commander player I know once annihilated me (LOL!) in a multiplayer game, but once I explained how I use my deck, he found that the opposing decks (Elf tribal and mono-blue artifact shenanigans) were a much more immediate threat.
Main reason I think people hate Kaalia is cause her + {Master of Cruelties} is a thing. I hate that combo.
Quote from: xStrayKnightx on September 09, 2014, 06:52:46 AM
Main reason I think people hate Kaalia is cause her + {Master of Cruelties} is a thing. I hate that combo.
I actually pulled that off recently, people may hate you for it but it feels epic when you pull it off
On another note, highly recommend {Kaalia of the Vast} as a commander, {Ghave, Guru of Spores} and {Marath, Will of the Wild} are also fun decks to play
Quote from: Dudecore on September 08, 2014, 07:43:15 PM
Don't pick:
{Derevi, Empyrial Tactician}
{Oloro, Ageless Ascetic}
{Karador, Ghost Chieftain}
{Damia, Sage of Stone}
{Maelstrom Wanderer}
{Prossh, Skyraider of Kher}
{Nekusar, the Mindrazer}
{The Mimeoplasm}
{Sydri, Galvanic Genius}
{Ghave, Guru of Spores}
You should play whatever commander you want to if you have fun with it. There are a lot of people out there who will whine and complain because they lose to certain generals like these a lot, but they can get over it! If the generals were that degenerate or unbeatable they'd be on the ban list.
To reiterate, that list is from MTGS top played commanders. Nothing to do with their brokenness or powerfulness (although that may be the reason they're played so often)
Quote from: Dudecore on September 09, 2014, 08:51:58 PM
To reiterate, that list is from MTGS top played commanders. Nothing to do with their brokenness or powerfulness (although that may be the reason they're played so often)
I'm surprised Damia is on that list, though. I've never seen a Damia deck in person, as much as I like her. And a couple of them (Ghave, Mimeoplasm), used to be really popular, but seem pretty rare nowadays
I've never seen a Damia deck yet. My mate desperately wants one, too.
I guess MTGS doesn't have a super active Commander forum? Kaalia just missed.the top of the list.
For the record I play Oloro, I think it's kind of overpowered. I wish Wizards would not design cards for Commander, instead let it be organic. But whatever...
If you look at the list it is almost all Commander product commanders, because they design the most obviously powerful Legendary Creatures ever and limit creativity.
TL; DR Make a {Lord of Tresserhorn} deck.
Quote from: Dudecore on September 09, 2014, 11:05:47 PM
I guess MTGS doesn't have a super active Commander forum? Kaalia just missed.the top of the list.
For the record I play Oloro, I think it's kind of overpowered. I wish Wizards would not design cards for Commander, instead let it be organic. But whatever...
If you look at the list it is almost all Commander product commanders, because they design the most obviously powerful Legendary Creatures ever and limit creativity.
TL; DR Make a {Lord of Tresserhorn} deck.
I like that wizards makes cards for commander, because we get access to more generals in certain color combinations. However Indo wish they would make such stupidly over-powered generals. The main thing I have a problem with is abilities that reference the command zone such as derevi's stupid "put me onto the battlefield" ability and oloros life gain crap :p