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Title: Morph
Post by: Blazingblevins on September 05, 2014, 01:44:54 AM
If I played a morph card face down as a 2/2, and say someone {hero's downfall} it. If I morph it face up as a different creature does {hero's downfall} miss?
Title: Re: Morph
Post by: blackychan1 on September 05, 2014, 01:49:39 AM
The downfall hits. The reason is, that the creature's ability to morph is just that. An ability. It is still the same creature. Much the same as the innistrad flip cards.
Title: Re: Morph
Post by: particle on September 05, 2014, 01:52:44 AM
Quote from: blackychan1 on September 05, 2014, 01:49:39 AM
The downfall hits. The reason is, that the creature's ability to morph is just that. An ability. It is still the same creature. Much the same as the innistrad flip cards.

correct, unless say, the card you flipped happened to have protection from black or the like. no idea if any morph cards have pro black but its still the same permanent so downfall will find it.
Title: Re: Morph
Post by: Blazingblevins on September 05, 2014, 01:54:14 AM
Hexproof would work? Since it gets flipped up in response.
Title: Re: Morph
Post by: blackychan1 on September 05, 2014, 01:55:18 AM
Quote from: Blazingblevins on September 05, 2014, 01:54:14 AM
Hexproof would work? Since it gets flipped up in response.
Yes, it would gain hex proof in time to save itself.
Title: Re: Morph
Post by: Blazingblevins on September 05, 2014, 01:56:10 AM
Also if I went to combat and right before attack I flipped up. Would it be able to attack as the creature it is flipped up to be?
Title: Re: Morph
Post by: blackychan1 on September 05, 2014, 01:57:32 AM
Quote from: Blazingblevins on September 05, 2014, 01:56:10 AM
Also if I went to combat and right before attack I flipped up. Would it be able to attack as the creature it is flipped up to be?
Yes. It is still the same creature. Just transformed.
Title: Re: Morph
Post by: Blazingblevins on September 05, 2014, 01:59:48 AM
Can u flip up while attacking? Or do u have to do it before combat. Like trying to trick opponent in thinking u are swinging with a 2/2
Title: Re: Morph
Post by: blackychan1 on September 05, 2014, 02:03:49 AM
The rules state that you may flip it "anytime you have priority" ..... So, yes.
Title: Re: Morph
Post by: Blazingblevins on September 05, 2014, 02:04:47 AM
Ok thanks, that clears it up.
Title: Re: Morph
Post by: Chargingswadger on September 05, 2014, 07:23:27 AM
Quote from: blackychan1 on September 05, 2014, 01:49:39 AM
The downfall hits. The reason is, that the creature's ability to morph is just that. An ability. It is still the same creature. Much the same as the innistrad flip cards.
You are close, but your phrasing is off. It is not an ability, it is a special action. Hence it can't be {stifle}d