In the mighty mod forum, the topic of freedom came up.
What is it exactly, can freedom extend into oppression or exclusion?
Discuss
I think it's most colloquially described as being able to do whatever you want, whenever. But that brings up more questions than answers. I believe in that ideal with the addendum that you can't harm or otherwise put down others; essentially don't infringe on others abilities to express their own freedom.
This is certainly a sensitive topic so I'm curious of others opinions as well.
Freedom IMO is being able to freely choose what you do and how you do it. And like what Taysby said, there has to be reasonable limits, but if there are too much limits, you are leaning away from freedom and more towards confinement. Also, freedom is different for every individual, for example, I can basically do what I want, when I want, as long as it doesnt contradict my religious beliefs. However, someone else's freedom could be party all day and night (not ripping on parties or anything ;))
So yea, FREEEEEEDAAAHHHHMM
Quote from: ConanEdo on September 05, 2014, 01:09:41 PM
*attempts to post, but is immediately banned*
That just makes me all the more curious.
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free·dom
ˈfrēdəm/
noun
noun: freedom
the power or right to act, speak, or think as one wants without hindrance or restraint.
"we do have some freedom of choice"
absence of subjection to foreign domination or despotic government.
"he was a champion of Irish freedom"
synonyms: independence, self-government, self-determination, self-rule, home rule, sovereignty, nonalignment, autonomy; democracy
"revolution was the only path to freedom"
antonyms: dependence
the state of not being imprisoned or enslaved.
"the shark thrashed its way to freedom"
synonyms: liberty, liberation, release, deliverance, delivery, discharge; More
antonyms: captivity
the state of being physically unrestricted and able to move easily.
"the shorts have a side split for freedom of movement"
the state of not being subject to or affected by (a particular undesirable thing).
noun: freedom from; plural noun: freedom froms
"government policies to achieve freedom from want"
synonyms: exemption, immunity, dispensation; impunity
"freedom from local political accountability"
antonyms: liability
the power of self-determination attributed to the will; the quality of being independent of fate or necessity.
synonyms: right, entitlement, privilege, prerogative; More
antonyms: restriction
unrestricted use of something.
"the dog is happy having the freedom of the house when we are out"
archaic
familiarity or openness in speech or behavior.
plural noun: freedoms
*gets banned for smartassery*
Plagiarism doesn't really do much for anyone
Quote from: Muggywuggy on September 05, 2014, 04:25:40 PM
Plagiarism doesn't really do much for anyone
I was just copying Siri :P
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I see freedom as one's ability to choose whatever he likes. That being said, I believe that even if rules and limitations are imposed, a person still has freedom so long as they have choices and options open to them. If you can alter your own path in life, rather than have it set down for you, that is freedom.
My smartassery is getting out of hand 😩
Quote from: Pride the Solo King on September 06, 2014, 11:39:29 AM
My smartassery is getting out of hand 😩
But the first step is admitting that you have a problem.
Quote from: IceScythe on September 06, 2014, 10:13:23 PM
Quote from: Pride the Solo King on September 06, 2014, 11:39:29 AM
My smartassery is getting out of hand 😩
But the first step is admitting that you have a problem.
Actually, the number of things I keep dropping is getting out of hand.
I believe freedom allows one to be as ignorant as they please
Quote from: Bear RUG on September 07, 2014, 06:13:03 PM
I believe freedom allows one to be as ignorant as they please
I agree with this.
For me, freedom is having the right to say and do what I like without fear of offending some minority somewhere else.
If I wanna celebrate Christmas and Easter like a normal Christian guy, then tough luck to the Muslim walking down the street.
Quote from: Taysby on September 09, 2014, 10:47:24 AM
...Seems a little, what do you call it? Religionists?
Ignorant?
Quote from: xStrayKnightx on September 09, 2014, 06:59:32 AM
For me, freedom is having the right to say and do what I like without fear of offending some minority somewhere else.
If I wanna celebrate Christmas and Easter like a normal Christian guy, then tough luck to the Muslim walking down the street.
By that logic though, the other fella has every right to be offended.
And that's where everything gets less fun.
His freedoms need to be protected as much as everybody else's. But where's the line? I don't think religion should be accounted for when trying to tally that up. Besides all the extremists out there who insist on taking it too far, I like to think it's possible for everyone to get along and respect the others' decision to practice the religion of their choice. If not, whenever the world ends, and the cycle of life begins anew, maybe they'll have the sense to practice a universal, or at least global, religion.
To me personally, Freedom truly lets me say whatever the hell I want without punishment, and lets me be mad when someone trash talks me. To an extent.
I don't know how it is in other countries, but our kids aren't allowed to celebrate Christmas or Easter in schools due to minorities. Yet our politicians say we live in a free country.
The freedom we fought to establish and protect has been malformed into a twisted state of BS.
Quote from: xStrayKnightx on September 10, 2014, 04:02:49 AM
I don't know how it is in other countries, but our kids aren't allowed to celebrate Christmas or Easter in schools due to minorities. Yet our politicians say we live in a free country.
The freedom we fought to establish and protect has been malformed into a twisted state of BS.
Honestly, celebrating all religious holidays sounds like a better solution then not allowing people to celebrate certain ones. Just imagine if you had a day off for every Jewish holiday.
As an Aussie who loves public holidays, I fully support that notion.
I think we've all established that freedom=good times.
But how does one enforce said freedom, if at all? Is everybody guaranteed protection? Is one group allowed to express their freedoms een if it's detrimental to another? I'm genuinely curious what everyone thinks.