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Title: Simic Counters!!!!
Post by: Jloe41 on September 01, 2014, 06:46:30 PM

Simic Counters!!!!

60 cards, 0 sideboard


4 {Temple of Mystery}
6 {Forest}
6 {Island}
4 {Yavimaya Coast}

20 lands


4 {Kiora's Follower}
2 {Hero of Leina Tower}
4 {Chasm Skulker}
2 {Prognostic Sphinx}
4 {Dakra Mystic}
4 {Elvish Mystic}

20 creatures


4 {Dissolve}
2 {Voyage's End}
4 {Negate}
2 {Divination}
3 {Ranger's Guile}
1 {Kiora, the Crashing Wave}
4 {Solidarity of Heroes}

20 other spells


Sideboard

Notes:
Newer deck I am gonna try, it have a nice 2.12 mana curve and is also good post rotation!!
Title: Re: Simic Counters!!!!
Post by: particle on September 01, 2014, 08:27:16 PM
{plasm capture} and then poop out a huge {genesis hydra} or something.
Title: Re: Simic Counters!!!!
Post by: Anoobass on September 01, 2014, 08:32:22 PM
I'm more of a fan of trample and just blow the opponent out of the water with 1000000 counters.
Title: Re: Simic Counters!!!!
Post by: Anoobass on September 01, 2014, 08:36:30 PM
{Chariot of victory} is a nice {1} equip, or go for {hunter's prowess} and draw all the cards.
Title: Re: Simic Counters!!!!
Post by: Jloe41 on September 02, 2014, 04:04:20 AM
While I like the plasm idea, as I said about this deck is that it is all still good post rotation! And for more card draw, I thought about running bidet of thassa possibly
Title: Re: Simic Counters!!!!
Post by: blackychan1 on September 02, 2014, 07:24:30 AM
May I suggest {nylea, god of the hunt}? Simply because you can have all the 1/1 counters on a creature that you want, but it will still be blocked by {elspeth, Sun Champion}'s 1/1 soldier tokens.
Title: Re: Simic Counters!!!!
Post by: Jloe41 on September 02, 2014, 07:51:04 AM
I do like the idea of nylea in there. The only
Time I have had to worry about elspeth tokens has been when they let skulker stay on the field, then I don't get all those tokens to out number hers.
Title: Re: Simic Counters!!!!
Post by: Jloe41 on September 02, 2014, 07:52:22 AM
Possibly take out a follower or two for nylea?
Title: Re: Simic Counters!!!!
Post by: Tabooist on September 02, 2014, 12:46:41 PM
{life's legacy} works wonders with chasm skulker.
Title: Re: Simic Counters!!!!
Post by: Jloe41 on September 02, 2014, 02:18:59 PM
I have tried running life's legacy in it, if it was instant instead I would like it more! I just can't really see it being useful in here, like what would I sac with it? I can already get a card draw if dakra is on the field, elvish is obvious mana ramp to use early or even for hero's effect. And I couldn't see myself using it on prognostic sphinx. But I would like to hear your opinion about how to use it!!!
Title: Re: Simic Counters!!!!
Post by: Tabooist on September 02, 2014, 02:44:34 PM
Quote from: Jloe41 on September 02, 2014, 02:18:59 PM
I have tried running life's legacy in it, if it was instant instead I would like it more! I just can't really see it being useful in here, like what would I sac with it? I can already get a card draw if dakra is on the field, elvish is obvious mana ramp to use early or even for hero's effect. And I couldn't see myself using it on prognostic sphinx. But I would like to hear your opinion about how to use it!!!

Honestly any simic deck I see that tries to use {chasm skulker}, I suggest {life's legacy}. I agree that it would be Soo much better if it were an instant. The ideal situation is to have two or more chasm skulkers in play, life's legacy to sac one and get tokens and more counters on the other. I suppose {quicken} could help with making life's legacy instant speed but that's, at most, four more slots that you'd need.
Title: Re: Simic Counters!!!!
Post by: Jloe41 on September 02, 2014, 02:57:17 PM
Ahh yeah I could see it working well with two skulkers on the field, the only problem is, everyone I seem to play wants him gone asap, so if I don't have anything to stop that at the time, I don't usually have more than one at a time. Also depends on the deck I am playing against
Title: Re: Simic Counters!!!!
Post by: Tabooist on September 02, 2014, 03:28:51 PM
Quote from: Jloe41 on September 02, 2014, 02:57:17 PM
Ahh yeah I could see it working well with two skulkers on the field, the only problem is, everyone I seem to play wants him gone asap, so if I don't have anything to stop that at the time, I don't usually have more than one at a time. Also depends on the deck I am playing against

Haha. It all depends on your meta. I play mostly casual. So I could see ppl wanting him gonna ASAP. Hopefully the others can help fine tune your deck.
Title: Re: Simic Counters!!!!
Post by: Jloe41 on September 02, 2014, 06:48:11 PM
I'm thinking about removing the 4 negates and trying 2 bidet of thassa and 2 life's legacy. Let me know what ya think!
Title: Re: Simic Counters!!!!
Post by: Jloe41 on September 03, 2014, 11:32:16 AM
Still trying to work my way around rabble red and burn type decks!!
Title: Re: Simic Counters!!!!
Post by: Jloe41 on September 04, 2014, 12:38:45 PM
Gonna take out 2 negates for 2 bident of thassa. Thoughts???
Title: Re: Simic Counters!!!!
Post by: Tabooist on September 04, 2014, 01:28:04 PM
Doesn't seem too helpful from my point of view. Do your attackers get through consistently?
Title: Re: Simic Counters!!!!
Post by: rarehuntertay on September 04, 2014, 03:51:15 PM
How bout that new Sagu Mauler? 6/6 trample hexproof with morph? Could see use as a finisher...
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/cards/khans-of-tarkir/23381-sagu-mauler
Title: Re: Simic Counters!!!!
Post by: Jloe41 on September 04, 2014, 06:52:13 PM
It depends I guess really, but taking what you said into consideration, bident probably doesn't fit well. But the draw seemed nice! And I really like sagu mauler!! But the harder thing is deciding what I would remove for him!! Maybe the 2 heroes for 2 maulers?
Title: Re: Simic Counters!!!!
Post by: Jloe41 on September 08, 2014, 04:49:01 AM
Taking out my 2 voyage ends for 2 more heroes. Let me know what you all think!!
Title: Re: Simic Counters!!!!
Post by: Jloe41 on September 11, 2014, 03:35:08 PM
This deck is still struggling some, looking for any help or advice for it!!
Title: Re: Simic Counters!!!!
Post by: Tabooist on September 11, 2014, 07:46:56 PM
Quote from: Jloe41 on September 11, 2014, 03:35:08 PM
This deck is still struggling some, looking for any help or advice for it!!

Does your list reflect the current deck? If you could update it, it might make it easier for some people.. *cough*me*cough*
Title: Re: Simic Counters!!!!
Post by: Jloe41 on September 12, 2014, 04:15:39 AM
The only thing that is different from the deck list on here now is I tried taking out the 2 voyage ends and out in 2 more heroes. I have also tried out 2 illusionist bracers, just for the fun combo with Kioras follower lol. It might just be a weak deck right now, things might change for it after rotation!
Title: Re: Simic Counters!!!!
Post by: Tabooist on September 12, 2014, 10:54:19 AM
It looks like fun but idk about standard competitive. It could def be modified or even salvaged to make a mean khans deck. Good luck to ya sir.
Title: Re: Simic Counters!!!!
Post by: Jloe41 on September 12, 2014, 11:29:27 AM
Oh yeah, when khans comes out Hardened Scales is going in, atleast I believe that is what it is called lol
Title: Re: Simic Counters!!!!
Post by: Jloe41 on September 13, 2014, 09:08:39 AM
Ahahahaha quick update! I can't resist lol, took this to fnm lastnight and went 3-1, lost to a quick mono red aggro in 3 games. The combo I found and didn't think about is awesome. I got Kioras follower with illusionist bracers on it, and I also ha a dakra mystic on the field, infinite mana and I could basically draw my whole deck and mill him out! I didn't even think about it, and when it happened in game I started laughing!! Haha he scooped when I explained it!
Title: Re: Simic Counters!!!!
Post by: Tabooist on September 13, 2014, 12:29:57 PM
Quote from: Jloe41 on September 13, 2014, 09:08:39 AM
Ahahahaha quick update! I can't resist lol, took this to fnm lastnight and went 3-1, lost to a quick mono red aggro in 3 games. The combo I found and didn't think about is awesome. I got Kioras follower with illusionist bracers on it, and I also ha a dakra mystic on the field, infinite mana and I could basically draw my whole deck and mill him out! I didn't even think about it, and when it happened in game I started laughing!! Haha he scooped when I explained it!

How I don't want to be a party pooper but how is it infinite? From what I can tell with the bracers, you'd have two instances of "Untap another target permanent". You'd have to Untap two different permanents. I don't think the follower can Untap himself with the way he's worded, so you'd Untap the mystic and maybe an island so that'd lead to another potential draw. But it stops there unless I'm missing something.
Title: Re: Simic Counters!!!!
Post by: particle on September 13, 2014, 03:48:50 PM
Quote from: Tabooist on September 13, 2014, 12:29:57 PM
Quote from: Jloe41 on September 13, 2014, 09:08:39 AM
Ahahahaha quick update! I can't resist lol, took this to fnm lastnight and went 3-1, lost to a quick mono red aggro in 3 games. The combo I found and didn't think about is awesome. I got Kioras follower with illusionist bracers on it, and I also ha a dakra mystic on the field, infinite mana and I could basically draw my whole deck and mill him out! I didn't even think about it, and when it happened in game I started laughing!! Haha he scooped when I explained it!

How I don't want to be a party pooper but how is it infinite? From what I can tell with the bracers, you'd have two instances of "Untap another target permanent". You'd have to Untap two different permanents. I don't think the follower can Untap himself with the way he's worded, so you'd Untap the mystic and maybe an island so that'd lead to another potential draw. But it stops there unless I'm missing something.

you can even untap {dakra mystic} again since you can respond to the 2nd one by activating mystic again. its still shouldnt be infinite though because {kiora's follower} cant untap herself. maybe if you have multiple followers and multiple bracers.
Title: Re: Simic Counters!!!!
Post by: Jloe41 on September 13, 2014, 04:57:37 PM
With the bracers I can choose to untap Kioras follower, that is how it is infinite
Title: Re: Simic Counters!!!!
Post by: particle on September 13, 2014, 04:59:53 PM
Quote from: Jloe41 on September 13, 2014, 04:57:37 PM
With the bracers I can choose to untap Kioras follower, that is how it is infinite

no. even if you could choose new targets with the bracers, you still have to choose legal targets. and the same {kiora's follower} that activated the ability will never be "another target permanent."
Title: Re: Simic Counters!!!!
Post by: Jloe41 on September 13, 2014, 06:29:01 PM
Alright if you say so!