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Magic (The Gathering) => Rules => Topic started by: Noblellama on August 30, 2014, 11:32:26 AM

Title: Kaalia +
Post by: Noblellama on August 30, 2014, 11:32:26 AM
Am I correct that attacking with {Kaalia of the Vast} and cheating in {Master of Cruelties} gets around the masters attack alone hitch?
Title: Re: Kaalia +
Post by: MarduArrow on August 30, 2014, 11:33:44 AM
Yes, but it also negates his ability that sets your opponents life to 1
Title: Re: Kaalia +
Post by: Spikepit on August 30, 2014, 11:38:23 AM
Quote from: S717 on August 30, 2014, 11:33:44 AM
Yes, but it also negates his ability that sets your opponents life to 1
Hang on, why so?!
Title: Re: Kaalia +
Post by: particle on August 30, 2014, 11:39:25 AM
Quote from: S717 on August 30, 2014, 11:33:44 AM
Yes, but it also negates his ability that sets your opponents life to 1

this is not correct. because {master of cruelties} triggers after blocks are declared, cheating him out with kaalia will not have an effect on his ability. and since his ability is after declare blockers step, kaalia will still get to do damage after life total has been set to one and will most likely kill the player assuming he has no blockers for kaalia or master.
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/magic-fundamentals/the-rumor-mill/new-card-discussion/rumored-card-rulings/238791-master-of-cruelties-kaalia-of-the-vast
Title: Re: Kaalia +
Post by: MarduArrow on August 30, 2014, 04:10:41 PM
Hmm, last time I saw this it didn't work, I guess that changed
Title: Re: Kaalia +
Post by: Nymuera on September 01, 2014, 03:09:29 PM
The second ruling on him states that the ability will go off in this situation.
Title: Re: Kaalia +
Post by: Gorzo on September 01, 2014, 05:14:48 PM
QuoteAn ability that triggers when something "attacks and isn't blocked" triggers in the declare blockers step after blockers are declared if (1) that creature is attacking and (2) no creatures are declared to block it. It will trigger even if that creature was put onto the battlefield attacking rather than having been declared as an attacker in the declare attackers step.

From gatherer directly. Yes, it works.
Title: Re: Kaalia +
Post by: xStrayKnightx on September 03, 2014, 11:38:38 PM
It's a really cheap way to win, and a lot of people hate Kaalia for this exact combo. Myself, I don't run it, cause I hate insta-kill combos.
Title: Re: Kaalia +
Post by: Swamplord99 on September 06, 2014, 08:14:50 PM
I agree. Sometimes when it gets to the point where you just win and its no fun it's no fun