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Title: Deck Help: King Macar, the Gold Cursed
Post by: LinkCelestrial on August 23, 2014, 05:00:15 PM
I have no idea why I haven't seen a deck built around him. I'm taking the challenge.

What I need: ways to tap Macar besides attacking. Black devotion cards I haven't heard of.

So far,
{Gray Merchant of Asphodel}
{Abhorent Overlord}
{Soul of Innistrad}
{Erebos, God of the Dead}
{Vampire Nighthawk}
{Nekrataal}
{Squelching Leeches}

{Spring Leaf Drum}
Title: Re: Deck Help: King Macar, the Gold Cursed
Post by: Gocougs509 on August 23, 2014, 05:13:27 PM
{paradise mantle} is a good one :) also, some good mono black cards that give devotion: {necropotence}, Any Liliana, {liliana's spectre}, {sorin markov}, {phage the untouchable}, {massacre wurm}, {animate dead}, {avatar of woe}. I built a mono black {erebos, god of the dead} edh deck recently so I know of a lot of fun things :p
Title: Re: Deck Help: King Macar, the Gold Cursed
Post by: JordanCirk on August 23, 2014, 05:15:21 PM
 {Paradise Mantle} and  {Thornbite Staff} come to mind when I think of using him to tap.

I actually tried to make a deck around him when he first came out, using more of an artifact theme and tryed to abuse the artifact tokens he made by playing affinity cards, just an idea :)

But good black cards for devotion purposes are  {Phyrexian Obliterator},  {Phyrexian Arena},  {Grave Pact},  {Vampire Hexmage},  {Reiver Demon}
Title: Re: Deck Help: King Macar, the Gold Cursed
Post by: LinkCelestrial on August 23, 2014, 05:33:19 PM
Quote from: Gocougs509 on August 23, 2014, 05:13:27 PM
{paradise mantle} is a good one :) also, some good mono black cards that give devotion: {necropotence}, Any Liliana, {liliana's spectre}, {sorin markov}, {phage the untouchable}, {massacre wurm}, {animate dead}, {avatar of woe}. I built a mono black {erebos, god of the dead} edh deck recently so I know of a lot of fun things :p

{Paradise Mantel} is perfect. {Necropotence} is a card I wish for dearly. Sadly it's hard to come by. Two people in my play group have {Liliana Vess} but they're very attached to them. {Sorin Markov} is a beast. He's also frowned upon in commander for his middle ability, and I can't get my hands on one. (But when I do. 😈)

I realize that {Paragon of Open Graves} is an auto include. You should run one if you aren't already.

I have {Erebos, God of the Dead} however I thought {King Macar, the Gold Cursed} would be more fun. I am however worried about the amount of aggro he'll grab.
Title: Re: Deck Help: King Macar, the Gold Cursed
Post by: LinkCelestrial on August 23, 2014, 05:40:02 PM
Quote from: JordanCirk on August 23, 2014, 05:15:21 PM
{Paradise Mantle} and  {Thornbite Staff} come to mind when I think of using him to tap.

I actually tried to make a deck around him when he first came out, using more of an artifact theme and tryed to abuse the artifact tokens he made by playing affinity cards, just an idea :)

But good black cards for devotion purposes are  {Phyrexian Obliterator},  {Phyrexian Arena},  {Grave Pact},  {Vampire Hexmage},  {Reiver Demon}

I have some {Thornbite Staff} like effects kicking around. I'll for sure run them. :)

How'd that go? I think I'm gonna focus on keeping my opponents off the board and building up devotion. Affinity is great but I own like three cards and they're in my {Muzzio, Grand Artificer} deck. (Also commander. :P)

Those are all disgustingly good cards. Sadly I own none of them but I shall be hunting cause {Reiver Demon}‽ Like holy crap. I do have {Dictate of Erebos} which is a not as efficient {Grave Pact}. I foolishly traded my {Grave Betrayal} and I'm gonna try and get it back.

Great suggestions guys, keep em coming.
Title: Re: Deck Help: King Macar, the Gold Cursed
Post by: Spikepit on August 23, 2014, 09:52:55 PM
So you piqued my interest about this guy and found two that utilise the obvious combo choice (so obvious I'm ticked off I hadn't twigged earlier) of Black Artifacts with Metalcraft and Affinity. Hope they help, they've definitely inspired me...

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/the-golden-rule-of-king-macar/

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/king-macar-the-gold-cursed-2/
Title: Re: Deck Help: King Macar, the Gold Cursed
Post by: LinkCelestrial on August 24, 2014, 11:17:46 AM
So I threw a deck together. It ran black devotion, which I didn't draw any of. Hand disruption, which I didn't draw any of. And removal. Which I drew some of.

I had {Springleaf Drum} and {King Macar, the Gold Cursed} out on turn four. And promptly drew everyone's aggro. I got smashed by flying faster than Macar could exile it (Macar getting nailed by all the removal didn't help). In the end I ended up dead very quickly because everyone was too afraid of Macar. Despite the fact that all my ways to tap him were blown up, and that I was (for the most part) shutting down a {Krenko, Mob Boss} deck that was proven to win games unless it was controlled. Not a good run.

I'm planning on taking out the hand disruption in favour of more ways to tap and (if I can find anything) untap Macar. I also realize I put in morbid effects which are useless. I'm going to be running {Swiftfoot Boots} for sure.

My hope is that next time I can have /something/ to reactively untap Macar, sending all that aggro away for the fear of me exiling your stuff. (Which was the fear in the first place)

I checked out those artifact lists and they look epic, however I own only one big artifact and that's {Colossus of Akros} and I already have an artifact commander (Muzzio). I think I'm going to attempt devotion and control, as Macar isn't bad at either. I'll also keep an eye peeled for metal craft, which I completely forgot about.
Title: Re: Deck Help: King Macar, the Gold Cursed
Post by: Spikepit on August 24, 2014, 08:26:54 PM
Totally agree on those linked decks, amaaaaaazing ideas! I'm torn now as I wanna make one, but I often feel morally wrong stealing others' ideas! Creativity usually overrides this, however. Haha
Title: Re: Deck Help: King Macar, the Gold Cursed
Post by: Dudecore on August 24, 2014, 08:42:26 PM
I gotta say, I'm super interested also. I usually don't play Mono-black, but this seems like a bunch of fun and pretty powerful commander.
Title: Re: Deck Help: King Macar, the Gold Cursed
Post by: IntoFire on August 24, 2014, 10:32:20 PM
One card. Homelands:

{Koskun Falls}.

Check it
Title: Re: Deck Help: King Macar, the Gold Cursed
Post by: Spikepit on August 24, 2014, 11:51:46 PM
Quote from: IntoFire on August 24, 2014, 10:32:20 PM
One card. Homelands:

{Koskun Falls}.

Check it
Totally! It's in both the deck lists in my OP and when I saw it, a light switched on!
Title: Re: Deck Help: King Macar, the Gold Cursed
Post by: Dudecore on August 24, 2014, 11:56:29 PM
Quote from: IntoFire on August 24, 2014, 10:32:20 PM
One card. Homelands:

{Koskun Falls}.

Check it

Sick. It's {Propaganda} that works with the commander. That card completely redeems all of Homelands.

I'm shocked that none of those lists are running {Maze of Ith}. It basically makes sure Macar can tap safely each turn.
Title: Re: Deck Help: King Macar, the Gold Cursed
Post by: LinkCelestrial on August 25, 2014, 02:03:15 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on August 24, 2014, 11:56:29 PM
Quote from: IntoFire on August 24, 2014, 10:32:20 PM
One card. Homelands:

{Koskun Falls}.

Check it

Sick. It's {Propaganda} that works with the commander. That card completely redeems all of Homelands.

I'm shocked that none of those lists are running {Maze of Ith}. It basically makes sure Macar can tap safely each turn.

I'm currently using {Witche's Eye}, {Springleaf Drum} and {Claim of Erebos} with the most effectiveness.

{Maze of Ith} would be the bomb in this deck. Sadly $20 is more than I'm willing to spend right now.

{Koskun Falls} I just wish I had one. xD It kinda sucks that it's at the upkeep but hey. I'm not complaining.
Title: Re: Deck Help: King Macar, the Gold Cursed
Post by: Spikepit on August 25, 2014, 05:08:33 PM
Just for suggestions sake, {Umbral Mantle} providing a spare {3}...
Title: Re: Deck Help: King Macar, the Gold Cursed
Post by: LinkCelestrial on August 26, 2014, 03:59:18 PM
Quote from: Spikepit on August 25, 2014, 05:08:33 PM
Just for suggestions sake, {Umbral Mantle} providing a spare {3}...

That would be sweet. But hard to get my hands on.
Title: Re: Deck Help: King Macar, the Gold Cursed
Post by: Spikepit on August 27, 2014, 08:01:29 AM
Man, I feel you! I often feel the worst thing about deck builfing is not owning the cards you need.

And its only going to get worse now. Sigh.
Title: Re: Deck Help: King Macar, the Gold Cursed
Post by: LinkCelestrial on August 27, 2014, 02:28:17 PM
Quote from: Spikepit on August 27, 2014, 08:01:29 AM
Man, I feel you! I often feel the worst thing about deck builfing is not owning the cards you need.

And its only going to get worse now. Sigh.

I have a $56 buy list. For one deck. And all the cards are old. T_T