4 {Verdant Catacombs}
4 {Marsh Flats}
2 {Overgrown Tomb}
3 {Woodland Cemetery}
7 {Swamp}
2 {Nykthos Shrine to Gyx}
22 Land
4 {Gravecrawler}
4 {Bloodghast}
4 {Geralf's Messenger}
4 {Phyrexian Obliterator}
2 {Gray Merchant of Asphodel}
2 {Pack Rat}
20 Critters
2 {Phyrexian Arena}
4 {Abrupt Decay}
2 {Slaughter Pact}
2 {Pit Fight}
2 {Whip of Erebos}
4 {Inquisition of Kozilek}
2 {Thoughtseize}
18 Spells
My friends Mono Black List it's pretty bonkers!
No. .love. mono black devotion. 😜
Quote from: Taysby on August 22, 2014, 04:24:05 PM
needs 2 more gary.
Not at all Gary is not the finisher like he is in Std. He's very slow and he's a replacement finisher I guess he's a good late game top deck but you never want 2+ in your opening hand
Quote from: Silent1236 on August 22, 2014, 04:11:01 PM
No. .love. mono black devotion. 😜
Not my deck lol but it is very awesome!!
Lol not going to happen.
And talking to my friend he doesn't run Whips. I thought he did so:
-2 Whip
+2 ??? (Taysby if you say Gary ...!!!!)
+ 3 or 4 {Liliana of the Veil}
Quote from: DrainCleaner on August 22, 2014, 06:57:53 PM
+ 3 or 4 {Liliana of the Veil}
I know!! He wants to so bad but sadly it's too expensive for now he's trying to trade for stuff like that. But he just got enough credit to finish this deck now (bc ghasts and Obliterators are high!!
{Pack Rat} is absolutely good enough. Its starting to see modern play and has actually made its way into legacy a bit.
Quote from: Taysby on August 22, 2014, 07:30:43 PM
Is pack rat really good enough for modern? He seems a little slow.
Lilliana's would be better than Gary. If he can afford them, I'd say
-2 pack rat -2 whip (he said he didn't run them, so they aren't there anyways) +2 Lilly +2 Gary.
Gary would normally be hitting for about 6. Twelve point life swings are cool. And if you manage to hit for more, great!
If he can't afford them, -2 whip +2 Gary.
{dark confidant} is worth considering! but if he can't afford Lilly he can't afford bob. :P
Ya bobs and Lilis (as of now) are not feasible. {Pack Rat} is not in his list but I was thinking with his recursion {Gravecrawler} and {Bloodghast} it'd be good
If he needs promo gravecrawlers, lemme know. I got 4 fer tradesies :))
Quote from: Spencer Addington on August 22, 2014, 08:28:38 PM
If he needs promo gravecrawlers, lemme know. I got 4 fer tradesies :))
Lol will do!
Quote from: Taysby on August 22, 2014, 07:30:43 PM
Is pack rat really good enough for modern? He seems a little slow.
Lilliana's would be better than Gary. If he can afford them, I'd say
-2 pack rat -2 whip (he said he didn't run them, so they aren't there anyways) +2 Lilly +2 Gary.
Gary would normally be hitting for about 6. Twelve point life swings are cool. And if you manage to hit for more, great!
If he can't afford them, -2 whip +2 Gary.
{dark confidant} is worth considering! but if he can't afford Lilly he can't afford bob. :P
Yeah lol it is, Deadguy ale plays it. Some bw token decks play it!
It's bad enough that devotion decks are in standard. Please don't bring them to a good format
Quote from: Munchlax on August 23, 2014, 04:21:05 PM
It's bad enough that devotion decks are in standard. Please don't bring them to a good format
Tbh it's barely devotion lol 2 Gary's is it mostly it's Obliterator ftw
Cut two fetches for an {Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth} and a {Forest}
Edit: {Pit Fight}!?!?!?! I get that it psedo-combos with {Phyrexian Negator}, but it is really conditional. {Dismember} would be better.
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on August 23, 2014, 11:37:06 PM
Cut two fetches for an {Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth} and a {Forest}
Edit: {Pit Fight}!?!?!?! I get that it psedo-combos with {Phyrexian Negator}, but it is really conditional. {Dismember} would be better.
Pit fight (so far is unbelievable) think about it pit fight a new Geralfs Messenger with their guy I kill their guy get my messenger back and they lose 2 life
Quote from: Mattao19 on August 24, 2014, 12:00:00 AM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on August 23, 2014, 11:37:06 PM
Cut two fetches for an {Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth} and a {Forest}
Edit: {Pit Fight}!?!?!?! I get that it psedo-combos with {Phyrexian Negator}, but it is really conditional. {Dismember} would be better.
Pit fight (so far is unbelievable) think about it pit fight a new Geralfs Messenger with their guy I kill their guy get my messenger back and they lose 2 life
Think about when you have no creatures. {Dismember} kills 90% of the creatures in the format, works even when your board is empty, is immune to mana-screw, has a more flexible casting cost, and can be used unconditionally to stop many combos in the format (stops Melira combo, Angel Pod combos, Kiki-Pod Combos, Splinter Twin combos, it is good against {Living End} decks...).
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on August 24, 2014, 12:18:09 AM
Quote from: Mattao19 on August 24, 2014, 12:00:00 AM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on August 23, 2014, 11:37:06 PM
Cut two fetches for an {Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth} and a {Forest}
Edit: {Pit Fight}!?!?!?! I get that it psedo-combos with {Phyrexian Negator}, but it is really conditional. {Dismember} would be better.
Pit fight (so far is unbelievable) think about it pit fight a new Geralfs Messenger with their guy I kill their guy get my messenger back and they lose 2 life
Think about when you have no creatures. {Dismember} kills 90% of the creatures in the format, works even when your board is empty, is immune to mana-screw, has a more flexible casting cost, and can be used unconditionally to stop many combos in the format (stops Melira combo, Angel Pod combos, Kiki-Pod Combos, Splinter Twin combos, it is good against {Living End} decks...).
That's true ill keep that in mind :P
Wow grave crawler into 2 mana 2/1 thingy into Gerald's messenger into phyrexian obliteration into Gary would be very scary
12 devotion...
Quote from: Hunteroffire9 on August 30, 2014, 04:23:48 PM
Wow grave crawler into 2 mana 2/1 thingy into Gerald's messenger into phyrexian obliteration into Gary would be very scary
12 devotion...
Not gunna lie that's (almost happened) it had happened where I go Bloodghast into Geralfs into Obliterator into 3 turns later Gary but that but draw is hard to do!
Have you ever considered {Arena}?
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on August 31, 2014, 12:14:54 AM
Have you ever considered {Arena}?
{Phyrexian Arena} is a 2 of debating making it a 3-4 of but it's slow
3-4 of of phyrexian arena seems like you'd be getting hurt more often that the opponent if you did that.
Quote from: Sparkle Ninja on August 31, 2014, 08:45:17 AM
3-4 of of phyrexian arena seems like you'd be getting hurt more often that the opponent if you did that.
Doesn't matter though having an {Ancestral Recall} every turn and losing 2 life is a deal that I like! "Greatness at any cost"
Quote from: Taysby on August 31, 2014, 10:42:06 AM
{arena} is just an infinite number of {pit fight}s
OHHH I thought they meant {Phyrexian Arena} and no arena is just bad
Quote from: Mattao19 on August 31, 2014, 01:32:37 PM
Quote from: Taysby on August 31, 2014, 10:42:06 AM
{arena} is just an infinite number of {pit fight}s
OHHH I thought they meant {Phyrexian Arena} and no arena is just bad
I beg to differ. My friend has a pretty sweet Mono-{B} list with a 2-of {Arena} and that card does some work. With Nykthos ramping out and Urborg making it a Swamp it doesn't screw up your mana either. You just have to fiddle with the numbers in your mana base a bit. Imagine if you could still run {Pit Fight} but have the slots that it takes up available for some real removal?
By the way... Where are your Urborgs?!
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on August 31, 2014, 02:49:53 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on August 31, 2014, 01:32:37 PM
Quote from: Taysby on August 31, 2014, 10:42:06 AM
{arena} is just an infinite number of {pit fight}s
OHHH I thought they meant {Phyrexian Arena} and no arena is just bad
I beg to differ. My friend has a pretty sweet Mono-{B} list with a 2-of {Arena} and that card does some work. With Nykthos ramping out and Urborg making it a Swamp it doesn't screw up your mana either. You just have to fiddle with the numbers in your mana base a bit. Imagine if you could still run {Pit Fight} but have the slots that it takes up available for some real removal?
By the way... Where are your Urborgs?!
Tbh I took out Nykthos it's a win more card and sure with Urborg it changes but there's nothing worse than a hand with swamp Nykthos and dbl-triple black cards!!