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Title: I'm a Johnny :p
Post by: Mattao19 on August 19, 2014, 10:53:11 AM
4x {Midnight Guard}
4x {Purphoros, God of the Forge}
4x {Ornithopter}
12 creatures

4x {Retraction Helix}
4x {Silence}
4x {Dispel} (might swap to {Swan Song})
4x {Divination}
4x {Azorius Charm} (might go with {Quicken})
2x {Banishing Light}
2x {Spirit Bonds}
24x other spells

24x Land

Basically it's an infinite combo deck :P

{Midnight Guard} + {Retraction Helix} + {Ornithopter} + {Purphoros God of the Forge} = infinite damage

Title: Re: I'm a Johnny :p
Post by: Ekann1 on August 19, 2014, 11:04:50 AM
-2 spirit bonds
+2 banishing light

Keep the charms.  This looks super awesome might have to go try it out online now. :D
Title: Re: I'm a Johnny :p
Post by: Mattao19 on August 19, 2014, 11:08:08 AM
Oops I forgot my change was -2 bonds + {Magma Jet}
Title: Re: I'm a Johnny :p
Post by: Ekann1 on August 19, 2014, 11:08:19 AM
I feel like the banishing lights would buy you enough time, and if you don't draw your creatures would still be ok.
Title: Re: I'm a Johnny :p
Post by: Ekann1 on August 19, 2014, 11:09:19 AM
Oh, jets are definitely better. Lightning strike might kill more things, depending on the meta. But the scry has to be useful.
Title: Re: I'm a Johnny :p
Post by: Ekann1 on August 19, 2014, 11:09:50 AM
I would go swan song over dispel. A 2/2 won't kill you quickly enough and swan song is more versatile.
Title: Re: I'm a Johnny :p
Post by: Mattao19 on August 19, 2014, 11:12:05 AM
Quote from: E.kann1 on August 19, 2014, 11:09:19 AM
Oh, jets are definitely better. Lightning strike might kill more things, depending on the meta. But the scry has to be useful.

Exactly. And tbh it's only for the scry I even thought about {Omenspeaker} instead idk still testing lol

Also {Swan Song} over {Dispel} is probably what I'm going to do :P
Title: Re: I'm a Johnny :p
Post by: Ekann1 on August 19, 2014, 11:15:57 AM
I'd consider 1-2 {Ensoul Artifact} as an alternate win-con just in case.
Title: Re: I'm a Johnny :p
Post by: Ekann1 on August 19, 2014, 11:16:35 AM
When do you usually use silence?
Title: Re: I'm a Johnny :p
Post by: Mattao19 on August 19, 2014, 11:18:53 AM
Quote from: E.kann1 on August 19, 2014, 11:16:35 AM
When do you usually use silence?

When I'm trying to go off it stops the counterspells/any removal
Title: Re: I'm a Johnny :p
Post by: Ekann1 on August 19, 2014, 11:20:07 AM
4x {Midnight Guard}
4x {Purphoros, God of the Forge}
4x {Ornithopter}
12 creatures

4x {Retraction Helix}
4x {Silence}
4x {Swan Song}
4x {Divination}
4x {Azorius Charm}
2x {Banishing Light}
2x {Magma Jet}
24x other spells

4x {Temple of Enlightenment}
4x {Temple of Epiphany}
4x {Temple of Triumph}
3x {Shivan Reef}
3x {Hallowed Fountain}
4x {Island}
2x {Plains}
24x Land
Title: Re: I'm a Johnny :p
Post by: Mattao19 on August 19, 2014, 11:23:34 AM
Quote from: E.kann1 on August 19, 2014, 11:20:07 AM
4x {Midnight Guard}
4x {Purphoros, God of the Forge}
4x {Ornithopter}
12 creatures

4x {Retraction Helix}
4x {Silence}
4x {Swan Song}
4x {Divination}
4x {Azorius Charm}
2x {Banishing Light}
2x {Magma Jet}
24x other spells

4x {Temple of Enlightenment}
4x {Temple of Epiphany}
4x {Temple of Triumph}
3x {Shivan Reef}
3x {Hallowed Fountain}
4x {Island}
2x {Plains}
24x Land

Ya exactly. I find posting landis too much effort lol
Title: Re: I'm a Johnny :p
Post by: Ekann1 on August 19, 2014, 11:27:27 AM
:) I want to play the deck so it needs lands. Seem like a good landbase to you?
Title: Re: I'm a Johnny :p
Post by: Ekann1 on August 19, 2014, 11:29:32 AM
-1 Divination
-1 Swan Song

+2 Ensoul Artifact

Thoughts? There is the possibility of more counterspells sideboard so that's not as much of an issue.
Title: Re: I'm a Johnny :p
Post by: Ekann1 on August 19, 2014, 11:33:22 AM
Quote from: E.kann1 on August 19, 2014, 11:20:07 AM
4x {Midnight Guard}
4x {Purphoros, God of the Forge}
4x {Ornithopter}
12 creatures

4x {Retraction Helix}
4x {Silence}
3x {Swan Song}
3x {Divination}
4x {Azorius Charm}
2x {Detention Sphere}
2x {Magma Jet}
2x {Enosul Artifact}
24x other spells

4x {Temple of Enlightenment}
4x {Temple of Epiphany}
4x {Temple of Triumph}
3x {Shivan Reef}
3x {Hallowed Fountain}
4x {Island}
2x {Plains}
24x Land

Sideboard
4x {AEtherize}
2x {Wall of Frost}
2x {Detention Sphere}
2x {Glare of Heresy}
2x {Jace, Architect of Thought}
1x {AEtherling}
2x {Dissolve}
Thoughts now?

Title: Re: I'm a Johnny :p
Post by: Mattao19 on August 19, 2014, 11:35:56 AM
Quote from: E.kann1 on August 19, 2014, 11:27:27 AM
:) I want to play the deck so it needs lands. Seem like a good landbase to you?

I like running as many shocks as you can 4 {Hallowed Fountain} is a must. Basically you want UW bc R is the least common. And I like the {Ensoul artifact} idea but other than ornithopter it might be tough to pull off in that case you'd probably want to run more artifacts
Title: Re: I'm a Johnny :p
Post by: Ekann1 on August 19, 2014, 11:42:16 AM
I prefer not to take so much damage in a slow deck like this. The mana base isn't too demanding so I didn't think the fourth was needed.
Title: Re: I'm a Johnny :p
Post by: Ekann1 on August 19, 2014, 11:43:07 AM
Right now I'm beating down with flying scissors on untap.in
Title: Re: I'm a Johnny :p
Post by: Ekann1 on August 19, 2014, 11:51:17 AM
Just combo killed someone playing dredge, this works pretty well!
Title: Re: I'm a Johnny :p
Post by: Mattao19 on August 19, 2014, 12:04:58 PM
Quote from: E.kann1 on August 19, 2014, 11:51:17 AM
Just combo killed someone playing dredge, this works pretty well!

Lol nice!! :P and that's true so let me know how your mana base goes!!
Title: Re: I'm a Johnny :p
Post by: Mattao19 on August 19, 2014, 12:25:23 PM
I feel like the SB should side out the combo and maybe side into the tradition Ensoul artifact deck
Title: Re: I'm a Johnny :p
Post by: Ekann1 on August 19, 2014, 02:00:22 PM
Ehhh. Combo is so fun!
Title: Re: I'm a Johnny :p
Post by: Mattao19 on August 19, 2014, 02:15:58 PM
Isn't it??!!!! I was at 6 a guy played {Master Of Feasts} last turn so on his upkeep I draw Purphoros. And he swings and puts me to one (I have guard and orni in play) next turn I draw divination ... First card ... Plains .... Second card .... HELIX!!! Lmfao he was a good sport and laughed it off which was nice of him :P
Title: Re: I'm a Johnny :p
Post by: Mattao19 on August 19, 2014, 03:39:13 PM
Quote from: Taysby on August 19, 2014, 03:32:54 PM
-4 {divination}
+4 {serum visions}

This comment is why you play tron .... Lol jk obvi we would play serum visions but this is Standard lol
Title: Re: I'm a Johnny :p
Post by: Mattao19 on August 19, 2014, 03:40:50 PM
Quote from: Taysby on August 19, 2014, 03:39:38 PM
sorry, thought this was in other.  my bad.

No worries!

#RGTronSux
#PlayMillLikeAMan
#IllStopNow
Title: Re: I'm a Johnny :p
Post by: Mattao19 on August 19, 2014, 06:10:07 PM
I'm going to try out {Jaces Ingenuity}
Title: Re: I'm a Johnny :p
Post by: LinkCelestrial on August 19, 2014, 06:46:51 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on August 19, 2014, 06:10:07 PM
I'm going to try out {Jaces Ingenuity}

That card gives me cancer.
Title: Re: I'm a Johnny :p
Post by: Mattao19 on August 19, 2014, 07:28:40 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on August 19, 2014, 06:46:51 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on August 19, 2014, 06:10:07 PM
I'm going to try out {Jaces Ingenuity}

That card gives me cancer.

The times I need a card late game with untapped mana is insane ... It's semi needed
Title: Re: I'm a Johnny :p
Post by: Pete on August 20, 2014, 01:56:50 PM
Adding green to the mana base gives access to {Beck // Call} and which lets you draw a missing {Purphoros, God of the Forge} or {Horizon Chimera} which is infinite life. At least that's how I believe it works.
Title: Re: I'm a Johnny :p
Post by: Mattao19 on August 20, 2014, 01:58:40 PM
Quote from: Pete on August 20, 2014, 01:56:50 PM
Adding green to the mana base gives access to {Beck // Call} and which lets you draw a missing {Purphoros, God of the Forge} or {Horizon Chimera} which is infinite life. At least that's how I believe it works.

Ya I've seen a list like this and I am considering it actually! Ill have to play test! It wouldn't be infinite life it'd be = to your decksize
Title: Re: I'm a Johnny :p
Post by: Pete on August 20, 2014, 01:59:41 PM
Ah that's right. Silly me haha
Title: Re: I'm a Johnny :p
Post by: Mattao19 on August 20, 2014, 02:00:33 PM
Quote from: Pete on August 20, 2014, 01:59:41 PM
Ah that's right. Silly me haha

But I wish Beck//call was target player draws lol that's be fun
Title: Re: I'm a Johnny :p
Post by: Pete on August 20, 2014, 02:02:52 PM
 {Beck // Call} + {Chasm Skulker} + {Purphoros, God of the Forge} = a literal ticking time bomb.
Title: Re: I'm a Johnny :p
Post by: Munchlax on August 20, 2014, 05:40:04 PM
Someone built it for me!
Title: Re: I'm a Johnny :p
Post by: Munchlax on August 20, 2014, 05:43:29 PM
Quote from: Taysby on August 19, 2014, 03:56:55 PM
#rgtronhasactuallywonatournament
#sohavealotofdeckssodealwithit
#losestobloodmoon
Title: Re: I'm a Johnny :p
Post by: LinkCelestrial on August 20, 2014, 08:01:06 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on August 19, 2014, 07:28:40 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on August 19, 2014, 06:46:51 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on August 19, 2014, 06:10:07 PM
I'm going to try out {Jaces Ingenuity}

That card gives me cancer.

The times I need a card late game with untapped mana is insane ... It's semi needed

The mana efficiency and utility are so painful though. I mean compared to {Divination}, you're paying {1}{U} for a card and instant speed. Compare it to {Opportunity} and you're paying {1} less for one less card and -target player. It's just so disappointing. 
Title: Re: I'm a Johnny :p
Post by: whitedrake on August 21, 2014, 03:22:41 PM
Man I really like the idea...:)

There are many ways how to toy with it...;)