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Title: Ornithopter kill squad
Post by: Destore117 on August 18, 2014, 11:28:39 PM
So got this from the Khans of Tarkir thread but figured I'd post it here.
{Ornithopter} + {Midnight Guard} + {Retraction Helix} + {Purphoros, God of the Forge}

Again. Not my combo. Just wanted to put it here for others to see.
Title: Re: Ornithopter kill squad
Post by: Munchlax on August 18, 2014, 11:30:53 PM
You forgot {Midnight Guard}. Without that it doesn't work
Title: Re: Ornithopter kill squad
Post by: Destore117 on August 18, 2014, 11:41:59 PM
Quote from: Munchlax on August 18, 2014, 11:30:53 PM
You forgot {Midnight Guard}. Without that it doesn't work
Thanks lol Sorry...suuuuper tired. Fixed it! Now everyone can have shenanigans •-•
Title: Re: Ornithopter kill squad
Post by: Tabooist on August 18, 2014, 11:44:16 PM
I'm kinda stunned that retraction helix has a decent use..
Title: Re: Ornithopter kill squad
Post by: Destore117 on August 19, 2014, 12:04:15 AM
Quote from: Tabooist on August 18, 2014, 11:44:16 PM
I'm kinda stunned that retraction helix has a decent use..

It's actually a lot of fun on cards that don't have anything better to do. I mean you could do some kind of {Archaomancer} +  {Retraction Helix} + {Guttersnipe}
Title: Re: Ornithopter kill squad
Post by: Tabooist on August 19, 2014, 03:45:06 AM
Good point. Haha. That's pretty good synergy. I guess I never looked past the fact that it came off as a lame {unsummon} to me.
Title: Re: Ornithopter kill squad
Post by: LinkCelestrial on August 19, 2014, 12:38:57 PM
{Retraction Helix} is also good in inspired decks. You can also block, then tap your blocker and bounce an attacker. {Retraction Helix} has utility.
Title: Re: Ornithopter kill squad
Post by: Destore117 on August 19, 2014, 12:46:23 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on August 19, 2014, 12:38:57 PM
{Retraction Helix} is also good in inspired decks. You can also block, then tap your blocker and bounce an attacker. {Retraction Helix} has utility.
Also, is fun for Vigilance creatures, swing, tap and return something else to hand.
Title: Re: Ornithopter kill squad
Post by: Mattao19 on August 19, 2014, 01:09:17 PM
Look at my post called "Im a Johnny" it's my take on it!
Title: Re: Ornithopter kill squad
Post by: Tabooist on August 19, 2014, 03:35:38 PM
Are you guys arguing for it's utility in standard or across all formats? I could understand standard but I'm not convinced otherwise. Lol.

I tried searching for the I'm a Johnny post. Didn't come up. Am I missing sarcasm?

Edit: found it. Haha.
Title: Re: Ornithopter kill squad
Post by: LinkCelestrial on August 19, 2014, 06:39:42 PM
Quote from: Tabooist on August 19, 2014, 03:35:38 PM
Are you guys arguing for it's utility in standard or across all formats? I could understand standard but I'm not convinced otherwise. Lol.

I tried searching for the I'm a Johnny post. Didn't come up. Am I missing sarcasm?

Edit: found it. Haha.

It's situationally better. It also hits nonland were as {Unsummon} only hits creatures.
Title: Re: Ornithopter kill squad
Post by: Tabooist on August 19, 2014, 07:25:06 PM
Fair enough. I honestly didn't give it a second look.. Lol. Feeling a lil ignorant now..
Title: Re: Ornithopter kill squad
Post by: Mattao19 on August 19, 2014, 07:26:49 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on August 19, 2014, 06:39:42 PM
Quote from: Tabooist on August 19, 2014, 03:35:38 PM
Are you guys arguing for it's utility in standard or across all formats? I could understand standard but I'm not convinced otherwise. Lol.

I tried searching for the I'm a Johnny post. Didn't come up. Am I missing sarcasm?

Edit: found it. Haha.

It's situationally better. It also hits nonland were as {Unsummon} only hits creatures.

BUT the creature needs Haste (or to not be sum. sick) also any creature removal stops the Helix
Title: Re: Ornithopter kill squad
Post by: Destore117 on August 19, 2014, 08:12:07 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on August 19, 2014, 07:26:49 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on August 19, 2014, 06:39:42 PM
Quote from: Tabooist on August 19, 2014, 03:35:38 PM
Are you guys arguing for it's utility in standard or across all formats? I could understand standard but I'm not convinced otherwise. Lol.

I tried searching for the I'm a Johnny post. Didn't come up. Am I missing sarcasm?

Edit: found it. Haha.

It's situationally better. It also hits nonland were as {Unsummon} only hits creatures.

BUT the creature needs Haste (or to not be sum. sick) also any creature removal stops the Helix

do you mean in response to Helix, they play removal. Cuz if helix already was resolved you could just tap the creature and save itself.
Title: Re: Ornithopter kill squad
Post by: Mattao19 on August 19, 2014, 08:27:33 PM
Quote from: Destore117 on August 19, 2014, 08:12:07 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on August 19, 2014, 07:26:49 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on August 19, 2014, 06:39:42 PM
Quote from: Tabooist on August 19, 2014, 03:35:38 PM
Are you guys arguing for it's utility in standard or across all formats? I could understand standard but I'm not convinced otherwise. Lol.

I tried searching for the I'm a Johnny post. Didn't come up. Am I missing sarcasm?

Edit: found it. Haha.

It's situationally better. It also hits nonland were as {Unsummon} only hits creatures.

BUT the creature needs Haste (or to not be sum. sick) also any creature removal stops the Helix

do you mean in response to Helix, they play removal. Cuz if helix already was resolved you could just tap the creature and save itself.

Yes in response to helix
Title: Re: Ornithopter kill squad
Post by: LinkCelestrial on August 20, 2014, 01:09:13 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on August 19, 2014, 08:27:33 PM
Quote from: Destore117 on August 19, 2014, 08:12:07 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on August 19, 2014, 07:26:49 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on August 19, 2014, 06:39:42 PM
Quote from: Tabooist on August 19, 2014, 03:35:38 PM
Are you guys arguing for it's utility in standard or across all formats? I could understand standard but I'm not convinced otherwise. Lol.

I tried searching for the I'm a Johnny post. Didn't come up. Am I missing sarcasm?

Edit: found it. Haha.

It's situationally better. It also hits nonland were as {Unsummon} only hits creatures.

BUT the creature needs Haste (or to not be sum. sick) also any creature removal stops the Helix

do you mean in response to Helix, they play removal. Cuz if helix already was resolved you could just tap the creature and save itself.

Yes in response to helix

As I said. Situationally better.
Title: Re: Ornithopter kill squad
Post by: Swamplord99 on August 20, 2014, 05:04:42 PM
Or {presence of gond}+{midnight guard}+{souls attendant} If you're not playing standard