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Title: Melira and existing counters
Post by: Quackmaster5 on April 10, 2012, 11:37:34 AM
Hello all

My friend and I couldn't quite figure this out last night. I had a {thunderblust} on the field, it died, came back with a -1/-1 counter, which also gives it trample. I play {melira, sylvok outcast} which should take the counter off and start the immortal thunderblust thing. He debates and said it wont come off bc it happened before. So he pinged it and my thunderblust died bc it had the counter on it. What would be the ruling there? Does thunderblust's counter get removed bc of Meliras appearance? Or does it stay on because it happened before.
Title: Re: Melira and existing counters
Post by: 1337m00nm4n on April 10, 2012, 11:40:29 AM
I'm no pro, but I'd say that the -1/-1 counter would stay on, because melira only prevents them from getting placed on it, and since that already happened before she was summoned the creature would keep it's -1/-1.
Title: Re: Melira and existing counters
Post by: cltrn81 on April 10, 2012, 11:50:25 AM
Rulings on Meleria state that counters already on creatures before Meleria hits the BF will not be removed.  Your friend was right.
Title: Re: Melira and existing counters
Post by: Quackmaster5 on April 10, 2012, 12:12:38 PM
Ok thanks. Didn't change the game but I thought it was an interesting concept and I built this deck around it. So I either need to get melira out quicker or tutor to find her.
Title: Re: Melira and existing counters
Post by: ChrisRodriguez on April 10, 2012, 12:15:18 PM
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on April 10, 2012, 12:12:38 PM
Ok thanks. Didn't change the game but I thought it was an interesting concept and I built this deck around it. So I either need to get melira out quicker or tutor to find her.
{birthing pod} can help with that
Title: Re: Melira and existing counters
Post by: BlackJester on April 10, 2012, 12:42:56 PM
Or {Green Sun's Zenith}.  Actually, there are a number of ways to find a green creature.
Title: Re: Melira and existing counters
Post by: cltrn81 on April 10, 2012, 01:18:18 PM
{worldly tutor}....go with green suns if you can 👍
Title: Re: Melira and existing counters
Post by: BlackJester on April 10, 2012, 01:34:40 PM
We had a list in General of cards that can fetch green creatures. I bet you could find it with a search for {Worldly Tutor}.
Title: Re: Melira and existing counters
Post by: Greg54js on April 10, 2012, 05:33:28 PM
{chord of calling}
Title: Re: Melira and existing counters
Post by: BlackJester on April 10, 2012, 05:52:11 PM
http://imtgapp.com/forum/index.php/topic,1435.msg10127.html#msg10127